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http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/fun/Bizarro.asp?date=20060403
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Spikey
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I don't get it. [Frown]

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The "off-model" caveman is from B.C., a comic strip that over the years has become little more than a bizarre soapbox for the creator's Christian viewpoint.

-Tabby
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Molasses Cellany
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[lol]

Spikey, if you don't get it, that means you've been lucky and escaped exposure to B.C. Go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BC and click B.C. (comic) to learn more. The forum won't let me link to a URL with parentheses.

I hate that strip so. Yesterday's in particular made me want to track down the author and smack him with a science textbook.

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Nick Theodorakis
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B.C. is not set in the past, but in a post-apocalyptic future, as strips like this one seem to indicate.

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Nick Theodorakis
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quote:
Originally posted by Miss Cellany but my aim's improving:
[lol]

Spikey, if you don't get it, that means you've been lucky and escaped exposure to B.C. Go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BC and click B.C. (comic) to learn more. The forum won't let me link to a URL with parentheses.
...

How strange. Neither RFC3986, nor its predecessors, RFC2396 or RFC1738, which describe the syntax for URLs, seem to think parentheses are a problem.

In any case, problem characters can be escaped by url encoding them; "(" is equivalent to "%28" and ")" is "%29" thusly:

Never mind, strike the encoding idea, this board won't even let me encode them without complaining about parentheses.

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Howard
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Nick,

If you read the link Miss Cellany provided, you'll see that B.C. is set in pre history. Hence the dinosaurs.

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...and if you read Nick's link, you'll see that he appears to be correct. It seems that Hart may have changed his model (to the post-apocalyptic)to accomodate his anachronisms. The earliest strips certainly seemed to be set in prehistory, but the later ones (with the characters of Conahonty and Anno Domini) seem to suggest otherwise.

Of course, at the end of the day, it's all just a comic strip.

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Nick Theodorakis
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Truth is, I was posting partly tongue-in-cheek. It's a running joke in some comic strip discussions that B.C. is "really" a post-apocalyptic strip. The fact is, it's not "really" set anywhere (or anywhen). I don't think Jonny Hart woke up one day after he got religion and thought, "hmmm... if I want to have the characters talk about Jesus, then I had better change the venue for the strip." Rather, whatever the original setting for the strip was, I think he just used his established characters and setting to write about whatever he felt like writing about, without regard to anachronisms or verisimilitude. It's his strip and he can do what he wants; I just wish he hadn't sucked all the funny out it when he did find Jesus.

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quote:
Originally posted by Miss Cellany but my aim's improving:
I hate that strip so. Yesterday's in particular made me want to track down the author and smack him with a science textbook.

Ugh. I just looked that one up.

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Molasses Cellany
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I know! I know! The B.C. universe has been subjected to a horrendous time-space anomaly. That explains everything!

Back when I was still churchgoing, I'd clip one of the strips out every once in a while and ask the pastors if they thought there was any funny in it. General consensus: no. [Roll Eyes]

ETA: Nick, tried the encoding trick as well. Twice. I hate having to give runaround links, but I found myself pretty much forced into it there.

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I have never really found B.C. that funny either, I don't mind his religious point of view, I just fail to find the strip funny. Sort of like Garfield, Beatle Bailey, Haggar the Horrible, Shoe, Family Circus etc. Well Garfield has about 1 strip a year that makes me laugh, about the only strip I laugh fairly consistantly at is Dilbert.

Some times I wonder what the point of the Comics page is, since 99% of the overal content is not funny. I'll get more laughs out of a weeks worth of PVP Online or Real life Comics than an entire years worth of the 30-40 comics in the local paper. Heck I get more amusement out of the "find the 6 differences" in Slylock Fox than any thing else in there.

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Ganzfeld
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quote:
Originally posted by Nick Theodorakis:
How strange. Neither RFC3986, nor its predecessors, RFC2396 or RFC1738, which describe the syntax for URLs, seem to think parentheses are a problem.

It's not strange because it's not parsed as HTML. It's UBB.
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Nick Theodorakis
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quote:
Originally posted by Ganzfeld:
quote:
Originally posted by Nick Theodorakis:
How strange. Neither RFC3986, nor its predecessors, RFC2396 or RFC1738, which describe the syntax for URLs, seem to think parentheses are a problem.

It's not strange because it's not parsed as HTML. It's UBB.
Yes and no. It's certainly converted to HTML (or at least HTML-flavored tag soup) before your browser gets it, because your browser doesn't know anything about UBB code. And it doesn't like it even if you post it directly in HTML.

The message board software seems to flagging the input because it believes that parentheses in URLs are either not allowed or dangerous, but I don't think either applies. Maybe I'll check on one the web authoring usenet groups to see if anybody else knows anything.

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B.C. started out well, but, like so many others, grew stale.

The very first B.C. collection has an introduction by Al Capp ("L'il Abner") in which Capp admits that he is old and stale, and praises Hart for being young and fresh.

The wheel has turned. It's time for Hart to write an introduction for someone.

However...let me give Hart accolades for something he deserves: about five years ago, he had a sequence where Peter set forth on a raft in a storm. He had odd adventures, and, in fact, must have come unfixed in time, for he saw what was identified as a block of styrofoam. (!) The sequence ran for about a year; it was the single most cohesive bit of sustained story-telling he'd ever tried, and, frankly, it was excellent. If they released that in a collection, I'd buy it immediately. (And I wrote to him to tell him so.)

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I agree with Silas re the staleness. (Don't get me started on the past five years of "Garfield!")

Hart still occasionally comes up with some well-executed material, though -- a few years back, he did a Sunday strip for Easter that condensed the Easter story remarkably into a few panels, with no text other than the voice of (presumably) God proclaiming, "That's my boy!" in the final panel. Did it belong on a newspaper comics page? That's debatable. However, it was impressive as a piece of graphic narrative and a darn sight better than any Chick tract or "Faithmouse" (that hurts just to type it!) crap. Even so, I too frequently wish he would knock off the proselytizing and make with the funny.

ETA: I was just Googling around to see if I could find the strip in question -- I couldn't, but after seeing some other strips I thought I should make it clear that I'm NOT referring to the infamous Easter strip with the menorah turning into a cross.

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quote:
Originally posted by musicgeek:
I agree with Silas re the staleness. (Don't get me started on the past five years of "Garfield!")

Hart still occasionally comes up with some well-executed material, though -- a few years back, he did a Sunday strip for Easter that condensed the Easter story remarkably into a few panels, with no text other than the voice of (presumably) God proclaiming, "That's my boy!" in the final panel. Did it belong on a newspaper comics page? That's debatable. However, it was impressive as a piece of graphic narrative and a darn sight better than any Chick tract or "Faithmouse" (that hurts just to type it!) crap. Even so, I too frequently wish he would knock off the proselytizing and make with the funny.

ETA: I was just Googling around to see if I could find the strip in question -- I couldn't, but after seeing some other strips I thought I should make it clear that I'm NOT referring to the infamous Easter strip with the menorah turning into a cross.

The Seattle Post-Intelligencer comics page has an "unoffical" archive of many strips. For example, the url for last Sunday's B.C. is:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/fun/bc.asp?date=04092006

You'll notice the date is at the end of the url in the format mmddyyyy. If you "hack" the url by putting in a different date, you will find they actually keep a few years of strips around, more or less, depending on the strip. The strip for April 15, 2001, for example, is the infamous "menorah" strip you referenced:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/fun/bc.asp?date=04152001

That's the earliest Easter Sunday B.C. strip I could find on their archive. I didn't find one like you descibed, however, but I suppose you could double check to make sure.

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quote:
Originally posted by musicgeek:
... (Don't get me started on the past five years of "Garfield!")
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Pfft! Marmaduke makes Garfield seem like Noel Coward.

Bad "can't let a comics thread go by without taking a potshot at Marmaduke" Ronald

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quote:
Originally posted by Bad Ronald:
quote:
Originally posted by musicgeek:
... (Don't get me started on the past five years of "Garfield!")
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Pfft! Marmaduke makes Garfield seem like Noel Coward.

Not even when Marmaduke caught teh gay?

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Total hijack, but the conversation reminded my of my favorite Easter comic. For background, that character is mentally stuck in the 80s and goes through periods where all her dialogue is song lyrics.

-Tabby
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I don't get that Palm Sunday strip. Jesus didn't tell his followers to stop yelling "Hosanna!" so presumably the stones didn't cry out. But the stone in the panel does. Is Hart suggesting Christians are being "silenced," or did he just need a stone to yell "Hosanna?"
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I always assumed that the name of the comic (and the main character) not only placed the strip chronologically back in time, but was supposed to give it a "Christian" tone.

Not that that explains the anachronistic pCm political references.

ETA: Just read the Wikipedia article, and learned that the author lives in a Broome County. So who knows.

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Ugh.

I've always liked the BC strips I have at home (two books "inherited" (meaning taken away) from my parents' place). But they were old, no obvious religious references. Those (like the Science Fiction one above) are just plain flat, no depth, stale punning. Too bad [Frown] Actually extremely annoying.

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quote:
Originally posted by snopes:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/fun/Bizarro.asp?date=20060403

I getit. This bizarre cartoon was dreamed up by a person who really understands the idea of Jesus Christ.

Jesus and other prophets said:
"I am alpaha and omega. Before Abraham I was."

Meaning that the spirit of Jesus, and all humanity is eternal. The power of creation is etarnal, thus all humans were never really born and will never really die.

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