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Nion
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I did think of that Anwndur, although it was more along the lines of "Would this be considered rejection of citizenship?" It is something to consider I suppose. It seems like it would be official, and possibly recognized (to at least some small extent) by the US.

Any learned US Snopesters want to weigh in on this?

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Anwndur
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Originally posted by RelicMan:
I did think of that Anwndur, although it was more along the lines of "Would this be considered rejection of citizenship?" It is something to consider I suppose. It seems like it would be official, and possibly recognized (to at least some small extent) by the US.

Any learned US Snopesters want to weigh in on this?

I wouldn't worry about anything from Sealand though. To quote Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealand

"In 1990 a US Administrative Court also ruled that Sealand was not a valid sovereign nation, following evidence from James Murphy of the Department of Trade and Industry. On appeal in 1991 the decision that the state called Sealand does not exist, and has not ever existed was upheld by a US Federal Court."

And in any case, Sealand was destroyed by fire in June of this year.

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And in any case, Sealand was destroyed by fire in June of this year.
But they are rebuilding it, so it's just a matter of time.

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Nion
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I suppose I'll never get a nifty, official title then. [Frown]

Well, at least I didn't have to pay for the name I got already. [Smile] It would have been neat, though . . .

Relic "Just a plain ol'" Man

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Nion
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I hate to double-post again but I've received the papers.

It is pretty much what I expected it to be. A couple of "official" papers stating that we are Lord and Lady that could easily be created with any half-way decent printer. "Official Document" is stamped on the lower left-hand side of the paper which again would be easy to create. We also each got a handy wallet-sized document saying we have the right to call ourselves Lord and Lady.

The documents give the exact location for our 1-foot plot in coordinate fashion, but fails to show where it is on a map. We apparently have a plot, we just have no idea where it is.

Be that as it may, I still think my wife will enjoy the surprise. [Smile]

Relic "Lord of the one-foot manor" Man

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quote:
Originally posted by RelicMan:

The documents give the exact location for our 1-foot plot in coordinate fashion, but fails to show where it is on a map. We apparently have a plot, we just have no idea where it is.

No problem. Just use Google Earth to locate it.

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Don Enrico
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quote:
Originally posted by Floater:
quote:
Originally posted by RelicMan:

The documents give the exact location for our 1-foot plot in coordinate fashion, but fails to show where it is on a map. We apparently have a plot, we just have no idea where it is.

No problem. Just use Google Earth to locate it.
And post the coordinates (or a link to Google Earth) here, so that we know where to visit your realms.

Don "humble servant, m'Lord" Enrico

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Originally posted by Don Enrico:
And post the coordinates (or a link to Google Earth) here, so that we know where to visit your realms.

You mean, so we know where to stage our bloody uprising.
Up the rebels!

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Nion
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lol You guys . . . [lol]

I'll try looking it up in the next day or two, but I'm not sure if they are map coordinates or some weird plot system he came up with. I'll let you either way in a while. Busy with work and all that. [Smile]

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Originally posted by RelicMan:
The documents give the exact location for our 1-foot plot in coordinate fashion, but fails to show where it is on a map. We apparently have a plot, we just have no idea where it is.

Unless it happens to be on the border of the grid, you'd have to trespass on other lords' private estates to get there. Watch out for attack ants.
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Originally posted by Errata:
quote:
Originally posted by RelicMan:
The documents give the exact location for our 1-foot plot in coordinate fashion, but fails to show where it is on a map. We apparently have a plot, we just have no idea where it is.

Unless it happens to be on the border of the grid, you'd have to trespass on other lords' private estates to get there. Watch out for attack ants.
I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same plot they sell over and over again.

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RelicMan, I was curious about the land sale.

strange looking land deed

I notice the same company is selling Lord of Sherwood Forest, Scottish Laird titles, and German Graf Von Lahnstein titles too.

I notice that they had only 15 titles available from your first link in the OP, but now they have an additional 19.
I guess their laser printer is kept busy.

j-has lots of back garden space that he could sell on the net-w [Wink]

ETA: The company has a 99.6% satisfaction rating on eBay. Go figure.
Double ETA: I've realised that probably relates to their abilty in sending on the documents, to conclude the sale.

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Anwndur
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You could divide your estate up into smaller plots of, say, one square inch, and as lord of the manor make a nice tidy sum selling knighthoods and such like.

As to the question of how to access your estate without trespassing on the lands of other lords, field boundaries often have rights of way between them wide enough for a footpath.

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Originally posted by Pogue Mahone:
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Originally posted by Zachary Fizz:


AFAIK, these "Lord of the Manor" titles do not actually make you a Lord in the constitutional sense. (Not that it has any particular significance in the Republic of Ireland, anyway).

Does the Republic even have such titles? It has no monarchy, after all.

Pogue

Not NOW, but it did once, and AFAIK it has not abolished those titles. Therefore, those who were granted titles before the Republic and their heirs may still use them--just no new ones may be created. Same goes for countries on the continent that used to be monarchies but are now republics (Germany, France, Portugal, Italy, etc.). (Even here in the US, we sometimes find people who use titles from the old Kingdom of Hawai'i.)

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Originally posted by Elkhound:
Not NOW, but it did once, and AFAIK it has not abolished those titles. Therefore, those who were granted titles before the Republic and their heirs may still use them--just no new ones may be created. Same goes for countries on the continent that used to be monarchies but are now republics (Germany, France, Portugal, Italy, etc.). (Even here in the US, we sometimes find people who use titles from the old Kingdom of Hawai'i.)

I'm not sure about Germany. As far as I know all noble titles are void, but the old families go around this by giving their children names like Printz, Herzug and so forth. In my opinion quite laughable on the same level as balding people having comb-overs. Who do they think they are fooling?

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Nion
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jwhoo: Yep, that's more or less what the "land deed" looks like. He did send me, via e-mail, a few images relating to the sale. One is a grid map of the area in which my wee manorial land resides. I think that's what the coordinates relate to.

Errata: But, but . . . I'm a Lord! I can do as I wish! [lol]

Anwndur: I now have that part of Monty Python and the Holy Grail running through my head. "Yes, a path! A path!"

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Lord Relicman
In the UK and Ireland we have a unique system of grid references on maps, not directly related to latitude and longtitude. Perhaps your deed has the Irish National Grid co-ordinates.

Your most humble and obedient servant:

Eddy

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quote:
Originally posted by Floater:
quote:
Originally posted by Elkhound:
Not NOW, but it did once, and AFAIK it has not abolished those titles. Therefore, those who were granted titles before the Republic and their heirs may still use them--just no new ones may be created. Same goes for countries on the continent that used to be monarchies but are now republics (Germany, France, Portugal, Italy, etc.). (Even here in the US, we sometimes find people who use titles from the old Kingdom of Hawai'i.)

I'm not sure about Germany. As far as I know all noble titles are void, but the old families go around this by giving their children names like Printz, Herzug and so forth. In my opinion quite laughable on the same level as balding people having comb-overs. Who do they think they are fooling?
Not exactly. Germany abolished all noble titles in the wake of the revolution of 1918 (Novemberrevolution). There is no nobility and there are no noble titles anymore.

What used to be titles, however, became parts of the last name. The former "Graf Edward von Hohenzollern" now is "Edward Graf von Hohenzollern", with "Graf von Hohenzollern" being his last name. You would adress him not by any nobel form of adress (like "Hochwohlgeboren"), and not as "Herr Graf", but as "Herr Graf von Hohenzollern".

The only difference to other last names is that female members of the family may use the name in it's female form: "Gräfin von Hohenzollern".

Don Enrico

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Congratulations, Lord RelicMan. And don't forget, if you are the only lord in the neighbourhood, you can call youself The Lord!

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Originally posted by Troberg:
Congratulations, Lord RelicMan. And don't forget, if you are the only lord in the neighbourhood, you can call youself The Lord!

And remember to buy yourself a couple of rings.

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Ron Miel
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Why not contact the international star registry, and have a star named for her instead [dunce]
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