Do you have any wine? All of this would go a lot smoother in an altered state of reality. Posts: 779 | From: Southampton, England | Registered: Nov 2005
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That's really weird. I refuse to buy anything from Starbuck's anyway and that's just given me one more reason no to.
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quote:Originally posted by RangerDog: Why do you refuse to buy from Starbucks?
For myself, it's because they sell bad coffee.
I normally drink my coffee unaldulterated. On the couple of unfortunate occasions I've purchased coffee from Starbucks, I've had to add huge amounts of sugar and milk to make vile brew drinkable.
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quote:Originally posted by RangerDog: Why do you refuse to buy from Starbucks?
For myself, it's because they sell bad coffee.
I normally drink my coffee unaldulterated. On the couple of unfortunate occasions I've purchased coffee from Starbucks, I've had to add huge amounts of sugar and milk to make vile brew drinkable.
Ditto here. No matter how much you put into it, it still has a sucky undertaste.
quote:Originally posted by RangerDog: Why do you refuse to buy from Starbucks?
Because they're taking over the world!
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I love that bit in Shrek 2 where one Starbucks gets crushed under the giant gingerbread man, and all the customers run out and into the other Starbucks over the road.
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quote:Originally posted by Ms. Congeniality: No matter how much you put into it, it still has a sucky undertaste.
Yeah. Kind of tastes like they roast the beans with napalm. It may smell like victory in the morning, but ugh, it tastes horrible.
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My SIL described it as "burned." I don't drink it and am not a coffee conneiseiur so I have to take her word for it.
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I don't understand that article. The "secret" seems to be that Starbucks sells a capp that is smaller than their smallest posted size: the 'short." But is that really a secret? I hear people ordering a short on occasion, and I often order a short steamed soy milk for my kids.
And how is the short size "better" as the article claims? It's the same stuff. Maybe he's saying it's better because it's relatively stronger - less milk to the same-sized espresso shot. But that's a matter of taste.
I don't even understand how it's a better value. It costs less because you get less.
AFA the taste of Starbuck's brewed coffee, I agree with other posters. I really dislike their brewed coffee, and it does taste burned. I've tried buying the beans and grinding and brewing it myself, and there's still a strange aftertase, so it must have something to do with their roasting method.
I do like their espresso, though, in capps and lattes.
quote:Originally posted by jessboo: I love that bit in Shrek 2 where one Starbucks gets crushed under the giant gingerbread man, and all the customers run out and into the other Starbucks over the road.
Or in the Simpsons when Bart is getting a tattoo, all the other shops in the mall are Starbucks. "Better be quick kid", says the tattooist, "in ten minutes this place will be another Starbucks". (Something along those lines anyway)
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I read about this issue a while ago. Automobile engines have chips in them to limit their power. You can buy aftermarket chips that increase the power.
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quote:Originally posted by snapdragonfly: My SIL described it as "burned." I don't drink it and am not a coffee conneiseiur so I have to take her word for it.
I do drink coffee, and I agree with your sister-in-law. Starbucks does taste like its burned. And at over $2 a cup, it's not worth it. I'll settle for Circle K House Roast ($1.39 for a 24 oz. cup).
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The company I work for has a catalog of coffice supplies we can order. Starbucks coffee was listed so we ordered it. IT SUCKS!! I think it tastes like someone put their cigarette butt out in the coffee. And we only brewed it at half strength that time!
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Their espresso isn't bad. Their frappes are good. Everything else is blaurgh. No one I know in Philly drinks it, except sometimes the frappes. Then again we're all broke students, but even if we could get it we agree it tastes gross. The teachers mostly liie Dunkin', a few get Starbucks. It's so expensive and the taste no matter what the blend is just... meh. Me and my family alos like some of the organic blends, they're quite good and a real good buzz.
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As others have said, it tastes burnt. Plus, it's way over-priced. Circle K and Diamond Shamrock have better coffee.
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I don't think it's just the coffee either. I'm a tea drinker and I've yet to purchase a decent cup of tea at a Starbucks. Tazo is a perfectly decent brand of tea, but somehow, despite mountains of sugar I still get a beverage that tastes vaguely like dishwater.
On the other hand, the Starbucks by my last job had amazing tarragon chicken salad sandwiches for sale.
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Mountain Mudd - the "FotoMat" of coffee houses - is superior in every way. I'd go out of my way to find a Mountain Mudd hut any day rather than drink a tasteless or bitter brew from Starbucks.
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quote:Originally posted by snapdragonfly: My SIL described it as "burned." I don't drink it and am not a coffee conneiseiur so I have to take her word for it.
Me and my cousin's wife agree with that. It's like they burn the beans before they burn the coffee all day long. As another poster said I like black coffee yet if I get Starbucks (which I don't anymore) I have to load it up with cream and sugar just to make it decent. Dunkin' Donuts has far superior coffee imho.
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Starbuck's has recently opened here, but we have a rich coffe - house tradition, so I tried their coffee just once and will not repeat it. It is a paltry imitation of the real deal, served without style for exorbitant prices. Deceiving customers is just another reason to avoid them.
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Of all the independent coffee houses in my vincinity (about five in a five block radius), Starbucks is actually the cheapest. I have to admit the Komodo Dragon roast is damn tasty.
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quote:Originally posted by IronChefBenjata: Of all the independent coffee houses in my vincinity (about five in a five block radius), Starbucks is actually the cheapest. I have to admit the Komodo Dragon roast is damn tasty.
How are you defining "independent"? I define it as "not part of a chain," which wouldn't include Starbucks.
I'm not saying your definition is wrong -- I'm just asking what it is.
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Just chiming in that, while Starbuck's brewed coffee is nothing spectacular, their espresso is quite good. And, really, I vastly prefer espresso to brew.
And, if you're like me and don't like anything in your coffee, and you're just getting plain espresso or Americano, their prices are pretty good. It's when you get into their ultra-sugary vaguely-coffee-flavored candy beverages that the prices get high.
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quote:Originally posted by UrbanRenewal: I don't think it's just the coffee either. I'm a tea drinker and I've yet to purchase a decent cup of tea at a Starbucks.
They also sell spiced apple juice and call it cider. Fools!
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Going back to the OP claims (or rather, the linked article's claims):
quote: It's called the "short cappuccino", and it's smaller, cheaper and better than the smallest size on the menu, the "tall".
lynnejanet already asked why the "short" cappuccino is supposed to be better than the "tall" cappuccino. I'd like to add: Why is it cheaper? I don't know the prices and sizes, but if the "short" is half as much as the "tall" and costs half as much, too, it's not cheaper. It is the same value-for-money.
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quote: (...) IBM did it with a printer: the economy version for home users was simply the top-of-the-range model with a chip in it to slow it down.
Can anybody confirm that? Which model/models do they mean? I just don't buy it.
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quote: Some of the attempts are obvious, such as discounts for students or pensioners.
You didn't think it was out of a sense of social justice, did you? Companies simply charge more to people who have jobs, because those people are willing to pay more.
Similarly, when a restaurant or a travel agent offers free meals or accommodation for kids, that's just a way of charging more to childless people who usually have more disposable income.
It's obvious that all kinds of discounts are part of an overall price calculation, so in a sense customers who don't get a discount are paying for the ones who do. But I think the examples are choosen to proof the claim. What about early bookers discounts and last minute discounts at the travel agent? People who book their vacation half a year in advance or at the last minute are not necessarily the ones who can afford less (like people with children), and people who book three months before they want to travel are neither necessarily better of. In the case of last minute bookings, the discount is rather offered because the seat in the plane or the room in the hotel would stay empty otherwise, costing the company money. It has nothing to do with the customers income.
Don Enrico
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quote:Originally posted by Don Enrico: Going back to the OP claims (or rather, the linked article's claims):
quote: It's called the "short cappuccino", and it's smaller, cheaper and better than the smallest size on the menu, the "tall".
lynnejanet already asked why the "short" cappuccino is supposed to be better than the "tall" cappuccino. I'd like to add: Why is it cheaper? I don't know the prices and sizes, but if the "short" is half as much as the "tall" and costs half as much, too, it's not cheaper. It is the same value-for-money.
It depends on how much you are paying for the extra hot water in the tall. The "short" is a single shot of espresso in an 8 oz. drink, whereas the "tall" has the same single shot (unless you get it double-shotted, but that costs extra) in 12 oz. I'm not sure how much more milk is added to the tall as compared to the short, but I would guess not much, and the milk is not not very expensive as compared to the espresso anyway. Since you are paying less for the same single shot in a short vs. a tall, that is why it's viewed as a better value; moreso because some think the higher ratio of coffee to water makes it taste better.
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And:
quote: (...) IBM did it with a printer: the economy version for home users was simply the top-of-the-range model with a chip in it to slow it down.
Can anybody confirm that? Which model/models do they mean? I just don't buy it. ...
I don't remember the printer in question. I do remember the Intel 486SX, which is just the 486DX with the floating point functions disabled. Possibly it was a case of Intel makings "lemonade from lemons" since the early versions of the 486DX had a bug in the floating point unit.
Nick
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quote:Originally posted by Don Enrico: Going back to the OP claims (or rather, the linked article's claims):
quote: It's called the "short cappuccino", and it's smaller, cheaper and better than the smallest size on the menu, the "tall".
lynnejanet already asked why the "short" cappuccino is supposed to be better than the "tall" cappuccino. I'd like to add: Why is it cheaper? I don't know the prices and sizes, but if the "short" is half as much as the "tall" and costs half as much, too, it's not cheaper. It is the same value-for-money.
It depends on how much you are paying for the extra hot water in the tall. The "short" is a single shot of espresso in an 8 oz. drink, whereas the "tall" has the same single shot (unless you get it double-shotted, but that costs extra) in 12 oz. I'm not sure how much more milk is added to the tall as compared to the short, but I would guess not much, and the milk is not not very expensive as compared to the espresso anyway. Since you are paying less for the same single shot in a short vs. a tall, that is why it's viewed as a better value; moreso because some think the higher ratio of coffee to water makes it taste better.
Okay, I understand that - so the "short" is not just "half a tall", but it's "the same thing with less water". In this case, I would agree it is better (I'm an espresso addict), and depending on the price difference, it may be cheaper (as in "more value for money") as well.
Thanks for clearing that up!
Don "double-shotted short, please" Enrico
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