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The California Highway Patrol gave Kevin Morgan, 28, of Petaluma, a $351 citation for driving in a high occupancy vehicle or "HOV" lane with a kickboxing dummy propped in the passenger seat.

http://apnews.excite.com/article/20051104/D8DLD00GJ.html

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Whew, fortunately they never caught me driving in the HOV lane with my old roommate.. oh, wait, you meant like a mannequin type dummy.. ohhhh.

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I'd thought about doing that before, but never seriously enough as to ever really consider doing it. I've never seen a CHP officer in this area being so thorough as the one in this article--it says he was standing in his door railing and looking down into passing cars. Around here, I usually just see an officer on a motorcycle or in a car cruising along in the carpool lane, and at 65+ mph I always thought a dummy might be enough to get you by in a passing glance.
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Still, it has GOT to be safer than paying a bum the $2 to sit in the passanger side seat. [Big Grin]

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My first thought was, "How could they tell?" I thought all those California dummies looked alike.
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This is news? They have been doing that for years in the DC area. It has become so bad the police will sometimes stop EVERYONE and ID each passenger.

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How funny. I always thought this was more of a urban legend then anything. retired CHP officers had told me this story many times of pulling a person over for another violation and finding a dummy in the car. I always assumed it was more a joke then based in any reality.
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It does sound pretty urban legend like, although sometimes life imitates art. I recall an old and over used joke about comedians getting pulled and saying "check the trunk". Sadly our city doesn't have such lanes or I would've tried the stunt when I was allowed to take the hearse out for a spin (I worked a haunted attraction and did some advertising stunts so its not as sick as it sounds).

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quote:
Originally posted by Doug4.7:
This is news? They have been doing that for years in the DC area. It has become so bad the police will sometimes stop EVERYONE and ID each passenger.

Why do they have to ID the passenger once they determine that it's a person and not a dummy?
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I guess my question is: if cops can set a car up on the side of the road with a dummy in it dressed as a cop, then why can't we use a dummy to ride in the HOV lane?

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quote:
Originally posted by Class Bravo:
quote:
Originally posted by Doug4.7:
This is news? They have been doing that for years in the DC area. It has become so bad the police will sometimes stop EVERYONE and ID each passenger.

Why do they have to ID the passenger once they determine that it's a person and not a dummy?
Sorry, bad choice of words. They will stop the cars and VERIFY each occupant as human (dogs don't count, yes someone tried that one too). They way they do it is just peek in the car, and in our case, it was obvious there were 5 occupants in the car (kids DO count), so we didn’t even have to stop (it was a slow roll). Now I have not been there when the actually had someone with a dummy, but I remember reading stories about it in the DC papers. BTW, this was on I-66 into/out of DC.

Yes it is a funny visual of an officer demanding ID from a blowup doll. "Ma'am, please close your mouth and hand me you ID..." [lol]

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Not a lot of people in NY do it, and the cops are vicious about it.

I got popped twice in the HOV lane. Once because my grilfriend wasn't feeling well and decided to lie down in the backseat of my car (should have known better).

The second time I was kinda asking for it. A buddy of mine and I were heading home after a bachleor party (we slept at a friends house). He was pretty hung over and wanted to sleep in the back. Having learned from the previous expirence I threwa blow up doll (gag gift at the party) in the front seat with a hat and coat and proceeed to drive the HOV lane which was the only open lane on an otherwise traffic chocked morning. Cop saw us, pulled us over, and had a big laugh at the whole thing. Then he gave me a drunk test (bastard, but my friend did reek of alcohol). No DWI, no ticket, but I have come to realize that HOV lanes are basically giat speed traps, They isolate cars from the rest fo trafic and give the officers a nice clear view to hit you with the radar gun. YOu are better off in regular traffic.

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I recall a case from just after I joined here, where a pregnant woman made the claim that the TWO of them could ride in the HOV lane. I don't recall how it turned out.

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I got the same ticket for traveling with my ex-wife!

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maybe they were on a date?

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Even worse was the woman who was pulled over in the HOV lane and claimed that there were two people in the car - her unborn child counts, too, you know! [^^]

*goes to try to find that*

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(last post wasn't showing up yet, so..)

Mom-To-Be Calls Unborn A Passenger

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Funny to see all those people on that link stressin bout that pregnant lady figuring a loophole in the law. Personally I say "Good on her", considering all the debate over abortion & stem cell research you could certainly argue that a foetus becomes a person the moment the cells start dividin so you are with someone [Smile]

As a note: no carpool lanes here so I'm mystified why the carpool lane is 75mph and the rest are 40mph, why not have them all at the same speed? Generally reduced speed is because of being in built up areas so traffic lights & pedestrians but it seems to ruin the point of it if some people are still travelling at 75mph...
That's like 120km/h, 10 km/h over the speed limit on the freeway here.

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Actually I think this 40/75 comparison was down to the fact that the non-carpool lanes are jammed at rush hour, thus you cannot go faster than 40 on average, while you have a mostly free lane with only legal limitations to the speed you go.

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quote:
Originally posted by Alkatr0z:
As a note: no carpool lanes here so I'm mystified why the carpool lane is 75mph and the rest are 40mph, why not have them all at the same speed? Generally reduced speed is because of being in built up areas so traffic lights & pedestrians but it seems to ruin the point of it if some people are still travelling at 75mph...
That's like 120km/h, 10 km/h over the speed limit on the freeway here.

The limit is the same in both lanes. The lack of traffic in the HOV lane makes it easier to drive speed and easier to get caught.

That doesn't make it a speed trap, IMO. A speed trap is an area where the speed limit is suddenly, and for no good reason, reduced, for the specific purpose of generating ticket revenue. The most famous speed trap in America used to be just outside of Columbus -- New Rome, Ohio.

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Here, the speed limit is 55 in the normal lanes, 65 in HOV.
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quote:
Originally posted by Lainie:
The most famous speed trap in America used to be just outside of Columbus -- New Rome, Ohio.

Hmmmm... wasn't a "neutral POV" one of the principles od Wikipedia?

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