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Mickey Blue
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So, any recommendations?

A bit about what I'm looking for, the time for being responsible is in the future for me, this may be my chance to have a "fun" car, before real life takes over, so I'm really looking for something more sporty.

That said, I do not have oodles of cash to throw around.

So does anybody have some suggestions for cars? Or suggestions of cars to stay away from?

When I say "new" I mean "new to me", by the way, whether the car I get is new or used will depend alot on the price and the deal(s) offered.

So.. anyone?

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Of all the cars Mrs Fizz and I have owned, I always associate the words "affordable fun" with her Mazda Miata. Truly a joy to throw around corners, phenomenal grip (she had some 225mm wheels fitted, which are a little wider than standard), beautiful looks, and total reliability. Pretty good residuals too.
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My mother-in-law loves her new Honda Accord. So do both of her sons. DH loves his '98 Civic.
I drive a '98 Oldsmobile Cutlass. It runs. That's about all. It isn't anything special, not fun to drive like DH's Civic, but it still runs.

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My Saturn Vue with the 5-speed manual has been fun, as well! But I think a Miata would probably be funner.

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When it comes to fun you gotta ask yourself, how much to you want to spend and what kind of fun?

If you want eurosport you can get a late 80's porche for under 15,000 (the 944 or 928) or see if you can't rustle up a GNX. A decent one can be found for under 20,000. So really, what do you want and what do you want to pay for it?

ETA If you want really cheap fun, look for a Volvo 740 with the factory turbo

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Hmm, all I can say is "I don't know" to both..

All the cars I have owned have been low priced half-way decent cars from the lot or the paper.. I'm figuring it may be nice to have something.. Well.. A bit nicer (or cooler, or whatever).

How much I can afford.. Well.. I'm not sure I know that one either, really I'm just looking for options right now, then I'll decide how much I'm willing to pay for "fun".

So there you go, two whole paragraphs and I didn't answer anything [Smile] Told you I was trained in marketing.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mickey Blue:
Hmm, all I can say is "I don't know" to both..

All the cars I have owned have been low priced half-way decent cars from the lot or the paper.. I'm figuring it may be nice to have something.. Well.. A bit nicer (or cooler, or whatever).

How much I can afford.. Well.. I'm not sure I know that one either, really I'm just looking for options right now, then I'll decide how much I'm willing to pay for "fun".

So there you go, two whole paragraphs and I didn't answer anything [Smile] Told you I was trained in marketing.

Ok then, the most important decision to make when it comes to a fun car, is muscle or style?

Once you've made that decision the rest is easy. So do you want to go 120mph? or do you want to look good doing 60mph?

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I'd like to look good doing sixty. I like the look of muscle cars more then the "curvy" cars.

Bah, so once again my answer is both [Smile]

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What about fuel efficiency? Get a Prius; your wallet will thank you down the line. And so will the polar ice caps.

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Fun cars I've owned:

Pontiac Firebird '87. Bought it for roughly $10 000, owned it for 9 years, sold it for $9500. That's a good cost of ownership, which balance out the slightly increased fuel cost. Great fun to drive, recommended. Perfect for open road racing.

Honda CRX '87. Cheaper and smaller, but a great city racer and fun to drive. It's like driving a big gocart. It's not so great for driving exceedingly fast on the open road, though. Great handling on ice and snow.

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How about a Mini?

I'd consider the Mazda Miata. Over here they call it the 'hairdresser's porche'. [Smile] Or what about a Hyundai Tiburon?

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Zachary Fizz
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quote:
Originally posted by Lunasa:
I'd consider the Mazda Miata. Over here they call it the 'hairdresser's porche'. [Smile]

Everyone knows Porsches are hairdressers' Monaros, Lunasa.

I'd recommend the Monaro, only it's overpriced and uglified for the US market (where it's called a GTO), and I don't think you can get the 6-litre model there. Maybe a Mustang GT? They make a very nice noise.

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I love my Mustang. It's my baby. Spring for the convertible and you'll look really good doing 60.

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quote:
Originally posted by pirateslife:
My mother-in-law loves her new Honda Accord. So do both of her sons. DH loves his '98 Civic.
I drive a '98 Oldsmobile Cutlass. It runs. That's about all. It isn't anything special, not fun to drive like DH's Civic, but it still runs.

I have a '98 Cutlass, its blue with leather seats. Yeah it runs is all you can really say about that car. Its not a bad car but it doesn't have the pick up and go that I need for this area. And now its making some sort of odd sound when I turn on the heater.

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How about a Jeep Wrangler, or Rubicon.

You will look OH so sexy riding around with the top down, but I would advise on not getting full metal doors, also the windows have to come off. They also hold there value well when it comes time to trade in or sell.

http://www-5.jeep.com/vehsuite/dispatch.do

That Jeep sort of looks like the one K has, except his is just a wrangler and is a 2002 model. Note the doors are not metal, avoid that because according to some it will make you look like a wuss.

ETA: I left out an important word

E* who loves riding around in the jeep in the summer*E

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A better idea of price range would be helpful. Were I a younger man, looking at a sporty, fun coupe in the $20K-ish MSRP range, I would probably go no farther than the Scion tC or the Honda Civic Si.

If my price range were a bit higher, I would likely get the Acura RSX.

Were I shopping for a small SUV, the Toyota RAV4 or Honda CR-V would be my picks. I can't vouch for the new CR-V (it was redesigned for 2007), but the new RAV4 is ridiculously nice, especially for the price. The latter has a 268-hp V6 and gets better gas mileage than my Camry.

On the subject of the Wrangler, it's a good choice, IMO, if you do a lot of off-roading, or if the cool factor (which is considerable) is very important to you, but otherwise there are just too many trade-offs (again IMO). Consumer reports gave it a 5 (!) out of 100 in their 2006 "Best and Worst Cars" issue. Riding in my friend's Wrangler basically confirmed what CR said.

But hey, this is coming from a guy who drives the most boring car available in the US, so take it as you will. [Smile]

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The Scion tc is a good choice. How about the Pontiac Solstice or Saturn Sky?

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Hmm, convertible mustang sounds pretty good.. As does a Jeep, I'd have to look into both far more of course.

Whats so wrong with having metal doors on a jeep?


As for price range.. I dunno, I mean a sweeping number would be low twenties but if I saw a car that I truly liked alot I could see myself spending more on it.. Though obviously high end cars are gonna be out.

The cars I have owned thus far have all been based on how sensible they are, odds are the cars I will own in the future will be based on how sensible they are, I want at least ONE car i own to be based on "Wow man, that car rocks!" attitutude [Smile] That dosn't mean it can't have sensible qualities (gas miliage/price/etc) but for this very specific purchase that is not my primary factor.. Dumb? Maybe, but I'm young still and have spent far too much of my youth being smart.

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One further suggestion for you Mickey - a Toyota FJ Cruiser. The price sounds right for you. Something of a leftfield choice, though, maybe.
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If I were looking for a "fun" car, I'd probably look at the Miata, like other have suggested, and similar cars like the Honda S2000 and the Saturn Sky. Of course what I'd really like is a classic British sports car like an MGB or Triumph TR6, but I don't think I could handel the repairs on a car like that. I've heard the Miata described as the car MG could have built if they'd fixed their quality problems.

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Mickey, I don't think that's a dumb reason at all. I had a sensible car for almost 10 years (Ford Escort) and when it got totaled, I decided that it was time for something with a little more flash (not that it took much to get flashier than a '94 Escort pony). I got a 2000 Celica (I got it in 2002 - has it been that long already?), and I've been really happy with it - it's my little rocket car. Unfortunately, they quit making them this year, but you could still find used ones. Also, the RSX is very similar to it, style-wise if you like the tiny sports car thing. If you're a bigger guy I wouldn't recommend them though. I'm a fairly small person, so that size it comfortable for me, but some of my friends really complain about getting in and out of my car.

I really like the idea of the Mustang Convertible, too. I looked at them when I was shopping for my 'fun' car, but at the time you couldn't turn around without seeing Mustangs, and I wanted something a little less common. I don't know how Wranglers are now, but my family had a CJ7 when I was a kid, and it was uncomfortably hot in the summer, and always sweated in the winter (metal top + no insulation = drippy ceiling). But I did love it, and I've kind of always wanted one, even with its drawbacks.

Good Luck finding something you can really enjoy.

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The Saturn Sky, Mazda Miata and Mustang Convertibles are very small.

Personally I would buy a retractible hard top convertible. Of these, the Volkswagen Eos would be at my top of my list. Next after would be Volvo C70. In 2007 Chrysler Sebring is introducing a revamp of their convertible that will be a retractible hard top (this would be cheaper than a Volvo and about the same cost as a Volkswagen Eos).

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quote:
Originally posted by RBCal:
The Saturn Sky, Mazda Miata and Mustang Convertibles are very small.

The Mustang Convertible is not small by any means.

For a comparison, the 2007 Mustang Convertible is 187.6 inches long and 74.0 inches wide. The 2006 Sebring Convertible is 193.7 inches long (Mustang is only 6.1 inches shorter) and 69.4 inches wide (Mustang is 4.6 inches wider). In height they are comparable (Mustang 54.5 inches, Sebring 55.0 inches).

Trust me - if the Mustang were small, it wouldn't be able to hold me. [Wink]

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Ok Mickey, we need to know your range, because i am about 2 seconds from suggesting a murcielago, lol. Just Kidding. However, you did mention you liked muscle. If you can find a Mustang 5.0, it may look like an escort, but that 5 liter engine will snap you back into your seat. Oh, and when it comes to sleeper muscle that all the car guys will give you respect for, go with the GNX I mentioned before. The Grand National (GNX) is a factory turbo car, doesn't look like a whole lot (Like a late 80's buick), but those in the know have nothing but love with this car. If I remember correctly I think Dave Navarro even owns one.

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Not to bash all the suggestions for a convertible, but since Mickey is planning to buy this car and then move to California, I have to warn him that in California convertibles are small penis cars. I don't know anything about his penis, I just thought it might influence his decision.

Some cars that are popular with the guys around here in the low 20s:

Mitsubishi Eclipse
Hyundai Tiburon
Toyota Celica - which is not being made anymore
Honda Civic
Mazda 3
Acura RSX
Scion tC
Volkswagen GTI

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Well.. Around here huge pickup trucks are the "small penis cars" and women always joke about it but half the girls I know still say they think a guy in a big truck is "hot".. Take it as you will..

That said I'm confident in my penis' size and ability to get whatever kind of car I think looks cool and fits my other specs.


As for range.. Lets just say 25K is the upper limit unless its truly a fantastic automobile (that said I really haven't looked into my finances or anything else so its possible I"d go for more)

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A guy in a Jeep with the top down is SEXY, throw in a little or alot of mud on the jeep then oh im wetting myself with excitment ( the good kind )

Your a wuss if you have all metal doors instead of half metal doors. That and you have a little winkie, and since I dont know how big your winkie is I can assume you don't want it to be percieved as little.

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Well I have always wanted a jeep, ever since I was little, so its definitely on the list, gotta test drive it though.

So.. Is driving stick like riding a bike? Its been about six years since I've had a manual transmission in my car, I hope I still remember how to do it.

ETA: And again, I'm confident enough in my masculinity to get whatever kinda car I want..

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And girls buy convertibles because of penis envy? Because in California, nice cars aren't just for men. The reason so many people buy convertibles in Southern California is that its the perfect weather for them year round. It has nothing to do with anatomy.

Juvenile people make comments like that about flashier cars all over the US, not just in California. But given a change in financial circumstances, many of those same people would gladly drive the nicer car.

Whether it makes sense for you has to do with whether you'll be doing highway driving as part of a daily commute. Convertibles are fun around town, but if you're going to spend hours on the highway regularly, you'll want a coupe. I don't know to what extent the new low price hard top convertibles mitigate that downside.

The new model mustang is a nice convertible in that price range. I don't drive one, but there are a few in the parking lot at work, and my Mom has one, presumably not for genital related reasons. I'd guesstimate that a third of the cars at work are convertibles.

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The nice thing about Jeeps (and one reason I've personally always liked them) is you get the "convertible" aspect by taking the top off, and you have the option for off road (no idea if thats relevant in southern Cali or not) option, plus, IMO, they look cool.

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Subaru Impreza WRX
Porsche 944, 928, or the old standby the 911
Buick Grand National
Mitsubishi Eclipse
Chevrolet Corvette
Jeep CJ7 (with the Straight-6)
Nissan Skyline R34
Acura NSX
Eagle Talon (essentially an eclipse)
Mitsubishi 3000GT (aka Dodge Stealth)
Dodge Avenger
Volkswagen Jetta
Volvo C70 Turbo, 740 Turbo (I love the wagon version of the 740, nothing like spinning tires on dry pavement in a grocery getter)

In terms of sheer muscle, you can find ALOT of late 60's early 70's muscle cars for under 25k. Hell, my brother got his hands on a 72 Nova with a 327 for less then 10k in good condition. So classic muscle is quite a posibility.

Some good classic Muscle in the late 60's early 70's:
Mercury Cougar
Chevrolet Nova
Dodge Charger
Chevrolet Corvette
Ford Thunderbird

All I can think of right now (work is not the best time to think about cars)

Stick to a Manual Transmission if you have a choice, because if you want to have fun in a car there is no better way then to be slamming through the gears

ETA -- Remember not to limit yourself and what brands are available. Cars that are traditionally expensive to buy brand new (Mercedes-Benz, BMW, etc.) depreciate in value just as fast if not faster than every other car, so late model Mercedes-Benz, or BMW's can be purchased for under 25,000. So keep your options open.

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quote:
Originally posted by Evil_eyes:
A guy in a Jeep with the top down is SEXY, Your a wuss if you have all metal doors instead of half metal doors. That and you have a little winkie, and since I dont know how big your winkie is I can assume you don't want it to be percieved as little.

What about if you don't have doors? I had a CJ-7 in high school and college and during summer when I took the top down, I would detach the doors. I'm hoping thats not the sign for eunich. [Razz] Of course in winter I would have the hard top and full doors, but thats just common sense in the snow.
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quote:
Originally posted by Mickey Blue:
The nice thing about Jeeps (and one reason I've personally always liked them) is you get the "convertible" aspect by taking the top off, and you have the option for off road (no idea if thats relevant in southern Cali or not) option, plus, IMO, they look cool.

I used to offroad a bit in my jeep too. My brother did more of it in his, but he wasn't that careful and broke an axle on a stump.

I would have to say you're probably not going to be doing that in Southern California. There isn't an abundance of flat enough, clear enough land that you can do that on without getting in trouble. The area near the water is protected, the mountains are very steep, and the farmland is precious and well utilized. There are plenty of hiking trails and other outdoorsy activities, however.

However, Jeeps are still a fun car, and you'll see a lot of them in Southern California.

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A guy in a Jeep with the top down is SEXY, Your a wuss if you have all metal doors instead of half metal doors. That and you have a little winkie, and since I dont know how big your winkie is I can assume you don't want it to be percieved as little.

What about if you don't have doors? I had a CJ-7 in high school and college and during summer when I took the top down, I would detach the doors. I'm hoping thats not the sign for eunich. [Razz] Of course in winter I would have the hard top and full doors, but thats just common sense in the snow.
OOOOOO you toopk the doors off, ok im so creaming myself now.

Um anyways K wants to do that with his Jeep, he was the one to tell me about the full metal door vs half metal door.

When he finally takes the doors off he is putting a 5 point harness system in for me, because I don't want to fall out.

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Girls buy convertibles in SoCal because they are chick cars. I didn't mean that a convertible was a penis compensating car, although I guess it did sound like that. They aren't very masculine cars is what I meant. I might be juvenile, and Mickey might not care, but I wouldn't want him to think he was buying a really manly car and then move to California and be thought of as a sissy. Since he knows he's manly no matter what car he drives it doesn't matter.

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