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I have recently been subject to a change in diet. Among the things that are being removed from my diet is high fructose corn syrup. What I have noticed is that food without high fructose corn syrup are not a sweet as those with it. Now, there can be all sorts of explanations for that including that the goal of the producers of these new-to-me brands simply are trying to make a less sweet product. But I got to thinking....

1. Do I remember correctly that a non-USAn's common complaint about USA food is that it tends to be too sweet?

2. Am I correct in thinking that non-USAn food is less likely to contain high fructose corn syrup as a sweetener?

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Well, I'm not an expert or anything but I usually look to buy products with no added sweetener (especially those products that really don't need sugar because they aren't sweet at all). Because of that I have fallen into the habit of reading the ingredients list of almost everything I buy.

As far as I remember everything here is sweetened with plain, white sugar, probably extracted from sugar beets. I don't remember ever having come across anything that is sweetened with corn syrup, could be that I simply forgot about it but I think sweetening with high fructose corn sirup is indeed much more common in the USA.

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I don't have an answer for you, but that'd got to be so hard. [Razz] My husband and I are trying to cut out excess HFCS (we're not ready to give up soda completely, though we do our best to not drink a lot of it) and the stuff is *everywhere*. We'll sit in the bread aisle for a good 10 minutes, looking through hamburger and hot dog buns and trying to find any of them that don't use it. We've found some bread that doesn't, but it's one brand while the rest of it has it in the top 5 ingredients. Condiments are pretty bad too.

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Originally posted by defaultcrush:
My husband and I are trying to cut out excess HFCS (we're not ready to give up soda completely, though we do our best to not drink a lot of it) and the stuff is *everywhere*.

My name is Sara and I'm a Pepsiholic. I can't imagine ever giving it up. However, I have recently tasted some sodas made without high fructose corn syrup which I found to be quite tasty but a lot less sweet -- not necessarily a bad thing. I don't know if it is characteristic of the brands I've found or of the form of sweetener. In fact, that's the specific product that led to this thread.

Found the sodas at Whole Foods and in the organic/natural sections of our local grocery chain (Giant), but just the ones in the affluent neighborhoods.

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default- when it gets around Passover time, stock up on kosher for Passover soda. The Coca-Cola and Diet Coke is made with sugar, not corn syrup (and that can be a good tip for you too, Sara!)

ETA: and I'm not certain, but I THINK Dr. Brown soda doesn't use HFCS. Worst case scenario, look for diet sodas without HFCS. Or just drink water.

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Hmm, interesting, I just checked the ingredients for Pepsi in the English and German wikipedia. In English one of the ingredients is (as already mentioned) high fructose corn sirup whereas in German the sweetener is sugar.

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I've always found Pepsi tastes way sweeter than Coke. I never realised the sweetening ingredient was different.

Anecdotally incidentally I have found that American made products do taste sweeter than the same products made in the UK.

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1. Do I remember correctly that a non-USAn's common complaint about USA food is that it tends to be too sweet?
Yep, but I would probably exclude English cooking as well. And Arabic pastries.

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2. Am I correct in thinking that non-USAn food is less likely to contain high fructose corn syrup as a sweetener?
Yep, with the above exclusions. Heck, in Sweden we even have sweets that aren't sweet.

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Specific examples:

Our European made Heinz ketchup and Special K Red have sugar. According to the U.S. websites, the U.S. versions have high fructose corn syrup.

Oreos are glucose and fructose syrup - U.S. is HFCS.

Cherry Coke has sugar here. And it's canned in the Netherlands - reading Dutch is weird.

Friends of ours moved to the U.S. a few years ago. They had the same problem as defaultcrush with bread and other foodstuffs.

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default- when it gets around Passover time, stock up on kosher for Passover soda. The Coca-Cola and Diet Coke is made with sugar, not corn syrup (and that can be a good tip for you too, Sara!)

Just a nitpick, Mickey. Diet Coke, even during Passover, would not contain sugar.

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quote:
Originally posted by Christie:
I've always found Pepsi tastes way sweeter than Coke. I never realised the sweetening ingredient was different.


Being an expert on the difference in Pepsi and Coke -- I don't willingly drink Coke unless it comes from a "fountain" -- Pepsi is sweeter because that's the taste they are going for. Coke has a slightly bitter taste. However, in the USA if not in other countries, both are made with high fructose corn syrup. But I am going to check the Passover thing Mickey mentioned. I wonder if that is limited to certain areas.

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Anecdotally incidentally I have found that American made products do taste sweeter than the same products made in the UK.
That's what I thought people had mentioned.

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Originally posted by Die Capacitrix:

Oreos are glucose and fructose syrup - U.S. is HFCS.

There's the other item that triggered this thread: Oreos

I bought Whole Foods version of Oreos. Liked the cookie just as much as Oreos but the big difference was in the filling. The WF was made with sugar and no trans fats. Just as tasty but not as sweet or smooth a texture.

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Originally posted by Scari at haunted home:
1. Do I remember correctly that a non-USAn's common complaint about USA food is that it tends to be too sweet?

Sometimes it's way too sweet for me.Sometimes just too much cinnamon.

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According to my father-in-law, who once worked as a chemical engineer in a sugar refinery, fructose is much sweeter than sucrose (sugar), but sucrose is a better flavor enhancer. His favorite example is maple syrup: maple syrup made with high fructose corn syrup is much sweeter, but maple syrup made with sugar has a better flavor.

I would expect that once you get past the lessened sweetness of sugar-sweetened products, you'll find the actual flavors much more satisfying.

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GRRRR!

There's no such thing as maple syrup made with high fructose corn syrup! Maple syrup is a specific category of sweetener all by itself, just like honey is. One comes from bees, the other from trees.

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I'm sorry, I meant maple-flavored syrup, or whatever they call the stuff in the grocery store that they want me to put on my pancakes.

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Yeah, sorry, Nonny. Most of us in the US, outside of some New England states, have grown up using watered down maple syrup on our pancakes and french toast. It's not our fault. Used to be pure maple syrup wasn't as accessible to us. On the other hand, the pancake syrups we grew up with were cheap. Well, they were cheap at one time.

Pure maple syrup is about 90% or better sucrose. But, if you only use a bit of maple syrup in your product, you have to sweeten it with something.

Here in the midwest, or the corn belt, you have one heck of a time trying to buy products that aren't sweetened with corn syrup. To me, this is an abomination because I don't like the flavor of corn syrup. But did they ask me? Nooooooo! And just up the road a ways we have plants that process sugar beets! And we're still forced to down corn syrup. It's just not right.

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FWIW, I have never heard of corn syrup, or used it in cooking, so I guess it's true to say that it is not commonly used in Oz. I don't remember ever seeing it in an ingredient list either, although it's possible. We do use Golden Syrup though, which is made from sugar.

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Sara, if you have a taste for it a/o can find it in your area, theres Dublin Dr. Pepper
Its made with cane sugar instead of HFCS. I've not had any but apparently it has quite a following. Dr Pepper is pretty sweet on its own so I don't know if the kind made with cane sugar is sweeter or not sweeter.

You can order on-line but I'm sure shipping soda cans to Pennsylvania from TX is not cheap.

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Originally posted by tagurit:
Yeah, sorry, Nonny. Most of us in the US, outside of some New England states, have grown up using watered down maple syrup on our pancakes and french toast. It's not our fault. Used to be pure maple syrup wasn't as accessible to us. On the other hand, the pancake syrups we grew up with were cheap. Well, they were cheap at one time.

Pure maple syrup is about 90% or better sucrose. But, if you only use a bit of maple syrup in your product, you have to sweeten it with something.

Here in the midwest, or the corn belt, you have one heck of a time trying to buy products that aren't sweetened with corn syrup. To me, this is an abomination because I don't like the flavor of corn syrup. But did they ask me? Nooooooo! And just up the road a ways we have plants that process sugar beets! And we're still forced to down corn syrup. It's just not right.

The irony, tag, is that I, a proud and patriotic Canadian, grew up putting corn syrup, marketed AS corn syrup, on my pancakes. I was in my teens before I ever tasted real maple syrup.

BTW, both pure corn syrup and real maple syrup taste better than that Aunt Jemima crap.

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Originally posted by me, no really:
FWIW, I have never heard of corn syrup, or used it in cooking, so I guess it's true to say that it is not commonly used in Oz. I don't remember ever seeing it in an ingredient list either, although it's possible. We do use Golden Syrup though, which is made from sugar.

You want corn syrup? Come to the US. Corn is not only fodder, it's our number one sweetener, and you can burn it in your vehicle!

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Sorry for the highjack, Sara!

ETA: Oh, then I'm doubly sorry, Nonny. It's all our fault, of course. I don't care for Aunt Jemima syrup either. I was raised on Log Cabin. Or during really bad weather when my carpenter father couldn't work and money was tight, my mother made simple syrup and put *gasp!* imitation maple flavoring in it, for our pancakes.

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The irony, tag, is that I, a proud and patriotic Canadian, grew up putting corn syrup, marketed AS corn syrup, on my pancakes. I was in my teens before I ever tasted real maple syrup.

BTW, both pure corn syrup and real maple syrup taste better than that Aunt Jemima crap.

Nonny

Is that a Maritime thing Nonny? Whenever I visited my relatives in Nova Scotia I noticed that we got corn syrup on our waffles or pancakes. I always wondered why they didn't use maple syrup.

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Originally posted by Christie:
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Originally posted by Monster Mousse:
The irony, tag, is that I, a proud and patriotic Canadian, grew up putting corn syrup, marketed AS corn syrup, on my pancakes. I was in my teens before I ever tasted real maple syrup.

BTW, both pure corn syrup and real maple syrup taste better than that Aunt Jemima crap.

Nonny

Is that a Maritime thing Nonny? Whenever I visited my relatives in Nova Scotia I noticed that we got corn syrup on our waffles or pancakes. I always wondered why they didn't use maple syrup.
Dunno. I know my mother, also Nova Scotian, has always thought Dad and Dan and I were weird...as far as she's concerned the only proper topping for pancakes is molasses.

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Most Australians would not realise that Americans don't use cane sugar. Our sugar comes (mostly) from sugar cane. Is there a difference in the sweetness between beet and cane sugar?

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Originally posted by Morgaine La Raq Star:
Sara, if you have a taste for it a/o can find it in your area, theres Dublin Dr. Pepper
Its made with cane sugar instead of HFCS. I've not had any but apparently it has quite a following. Dr Pepper is pretty sweet on its own so I don't know if the kind made with cane sugar is sweeter or not sweeter.

You can order on-line but I'm sure shipping soda cans to Pennsylvania from TX is not cheap.

I'm not a Dr Pepper fan. I really like my Pepsi. But thanks for the link, I never knew there were two kinds of Dr Pepper.

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Just to be clear, corn syrup and high fructose corn syrup are not the same thing. The clear Karo Syrup and the Pancake syrup contain both. The darkest one doesn't have HFCS in it.

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Most Australians would not realise that Americans don't use cane sugar. Our sugar comes (mostly) from sugar cane. Is there a difference in the sweetness between beet and cane sugar?

Just found the answer to my own question:

The product of Sugar Cane contains 10%-15% sucrose, whilst Sugar Beets contain 15%-20% sucrose. (Thanks Wiki)

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quote:
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Originally posted by Die Capacitrix:

Oreos are glucose and fructose syrup - U.S. is HFCS.

There's the other item that triggered this thread: Oreos

I bought Whole Foods version of Oreos. Liked the cookie just as much as Oreos but the big difference was in the filling. The WF was made with sugar and no trans fats. Just as tasty but not as sweet or smooth a texture.

Oreos here have never had trans fats. We can no longer stomach the U.S. version (trans fat free since Jan 2006) as we have become used to the European version. Trans fatsprovide a different texture which, IMO, most Americans are used to.

I have friends in Oregon that love Nutella, but they don't buy it in the U.S. because it's made with trans fats. The original Nutella, sold here, is made with palm oil.

Minor rant. Why do so many companies only have the nutrition panel, but not the ingredients on-line? Grrr.

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Originally posted by Scari at haunted home:


1. Do I remember correctly that a non-USAn's common complaint about USA food is that it tends to be too sweet?

Yes, it does seem very sweet to me. When I was at sea, I usually tried to avoid eating the bread when we resupplied from an American base or ship. It was more like a very flavorless sponge cake than bread. Unfortunately, we didn't get fresh bread made on board unless we had almost totally run out of what we had in frozen stores. None of the crew liked the sweetness of American-made bread, so it took a long time to eat our way to that point.

Soft drinks were the same - very sweet when supplied by Americans. For some reason they were also too sweet when we got them from the Philippines. Perhaps they use corn syrup there, too. I remember there was a bit of a fuss kicked up once when we had returned to Australia, but the Coke machine in the JS was still dispensing American drinks. The stewards wouldn't tell us when we would be back on "normal" soft drinks, because they knew people would stop buying them until that time, so if someone wanted a drink, they'd try to wait in line behind someone else in the hope that the can that person bought would be the last of the American ones.
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2. Am I correct in thinking that non-USAn food is less likely to contain high fructose corn syrup as a sweetener?
I'm not sure. As far as I know, they use cane sugar in everything over here.

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When I moved to Japan I had a few people mention this to me (I'm American). Quite frankly I haven't noticed a difference. All the breads are sweet (I have never found wheat bread) and there are quite a few sauces that are sweet as well. The desserts are less sweet, but that's because they often revolve around fresh fruit and maybe yogurt or sherbert. Fanta is huge here and I think it's way more sweet than Pepsi or Coke. Minor differences, and I think it evens out in the end.
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HFCS is cheaper than sugar in the US due to US subsidies, quotas, and tariffs designed to protect US sugar and corn industry ("When corn is king"). If I recall correctly, ADM is the largest recipient of corporate welfare in the US.

Outside the US, sugar is cheaper (half of US prices).

Candy makers have moved out of the US for the cheaper sugar: "It's Daley vs. sugar lobby to save jobs: City says costs hurt candy plants"

Most soda makers tailor their formulas for the local market, so US Coke, German Coke, etc, will not taste the same (and why Coke in some countries tastes sweeter). I'm pretty sure, though, that Mexican Coke is the same as US Coke, except it is made with sugar. You should be able to find Mexican sodas in some local grocers, especially in areas with a good sized Mexican population. I go out of my way to get Mexican Coke -- much better than US Coke.

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1. Do I remember correctly that a non-USAn's common complaint about USA food is that it tends to be too sweet?

Yes, in Hungary anyway. Their pastries and candies taste so bland to me, but my friends complain they can't manage more than a bite of rich American sweets.
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2. Am I correct in thinking that non-USAn food is less likely to contain high fructose corn syrup as a sweetener?

Again, that is certainly true here. I'm not sure they manufacture it (there is no translation for it), though recently we've gotten some generic pancake syrup from England in the bigger stores. Only expats buy it, though.

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Most Australians would not realise that Americans don't use cane sugar. Our sugar comes (mostly) from sugar cane. Is there a difference in the sweetness between beet and cane sugar?

Just found the answer to my own question:

The product of Sugar Cane contains 10%-15% sucrose, whilst Sugar Beets contain 15%-20% sucrose. (Thanks Wiki)

That is the sugar content of a beet compared to a cane. The suger we put in our coffee (or tea) is refined to a content more like 100% sucrose (99.7% according to Danish sugar manufacturer Dansukker), regardless where it originated.

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Now I'm wondering how many extra empty calories a day this expectation of what the rest of the world see as super sweetness which we USAns have gotten use to is contributing to our diets.

Is it me or does it seem like the more sweet/sugar in your diet, the more sweet/sugar you want to eat? Does all this sweetness make us crave more? Is it the fructose itself or is it the chemical reaction going on in our body or is it the fact that sweet just taste good to most of us? Or none of the above?

(I bet if I go to an anti-HFCS site, I will find more discussions about this than I want to read. I guess this is something I'm going to have to delve into... **sigh**)

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There's a big debate in Sweden about that. At least two people I know claim that they are sugerholics and I honestly have no idea wether there is such a thing as a dependency on sugar. If there is I doubt that it has something to do with the taste as all as all carbohydrates (and as stated in this thread different sugars vary in sweetness) we take in end up as glucose before our bodies can take care of it, so my very layman guess is that if it exists it has something to do with body chemistry (or our minds, which would be my first guess).

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