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Comment: I know this isn't an urban legend question, but I saw these two
articles today. The excerpts I sent you are from two different advice
columnists that are nationally syndicated. This is one of those things
that could end up being forwarded all over.

First off, From today's (Sept 18th, 2006) Dear Abby
http://www.uexpress.com/dearabby/

DEAR ABBY: My husband and I are in our late 30s, healthy and in good
shape. Our love life is good, and we get along better now than we ever
have in our marriage.

Before we get any older, my husband has asked me to visit a nudist beach
or resort with him. He also says he would like to spice up our sex life by
making love in the forest beside a mountain stream, or even the back seat
of our car in a secluded spot.

Coming from a religious background, I am not totally comfortable with the
idea of going nude at a beach in front of a lot of other people, or the
thought of being caught having sex in the woods. My husband says that
visiting a nudist beach or resort is not about exhibitionism or
immorality. He says it is about enjoying nature and feeling the sensation
of being free outdoors.

To be honest, these are things I might like to try, but I am just not
sure. I'm concerned about what others would think if they found out. My
husband says what we do is our own business, and the only way anyone we
know would find out is if we told them.

Would it be wrong for us to go to a nude beach or resort, just to try it
out? -- WONDERING WIFE IN PENNSYLVANIA

DEAR WONDERING WIFE: I recommend you consider your husband's suggestions
one at a time, and see how comfortable you are with each one.
There is nothing sinful about going to a nude beach with one's husband.
When you do, you will see entire families and people of every age enjoying
themselves --- all looking remarkably similar, and none of them leering at
anyone else. Should you run into people you know, I can't imagine anyone
gossiping about it, since they would have to explain how they happened to
see you.
As to spicing up your sex life by making love in public places: Although
some people may enjoy the "danger" of possibly being discovered, I don't
recommend it because it leaves couples vulnerable to being exploited by
anyone who happens by, or being cited for violating local ordinances
against indecent exposure.

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Then from today's (Sept 18th, 2006) Annie's Mailbox
http://www.creators.com/lifestyle_show.cfm?columnsName=ama

Dear Annie: My wife and I are in our 40s, healthy and in good shape. Our
life is great, and we get along better now than ever. Before we get any
older, I would like to try something different. Lately, I've been talking
to my wife about experiencing a nude beach or resort.
We've talked about making love in the forest alongside a mountain stream
or even in the back seat of our car in a secluded spot.

Coming from a very religious background, my wife feels such things are
immoral. I explained that going to a nude beach is not about being an
exhibitionist. It's about enjoying nature and feeling the sensation of
being free outdoors. I am not asking for a lifestyle change. I'd just like
to try these things.

Believe me, I am not an exhibitionist. I am discreet and respect my wife's
limits. But the thought of making love outside or skinny-dipping in the
warm ocean seems wonderful. I want to share these experiences with her.
Are my desires wrong? She said I should ask for your opinion. What do you
think? -- Wondering Husband

Dear Wondering: There is no "right" or "wrong." Anything that goes on
between two consenting adults is fine as long as no one gets hurt. Your
wife is a bit more inhibited about her body than you are. If you want to
spend a weekend at a nudist resort, you might look into those that allow
you to bring spouses who opt to remain fully clothed. It's a reasonable
compromise.

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Many similarities between the two letters. Do both syndicates use a
random letter generating program or something?

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I saw that one in Dear Abby this morning.

That's awesome. I guess they're both having problems. Marriage counseling, anyone?

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Sounds like the two recycle letters between them & today their luck ran out.

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The odds against the wife writing to Abby and the husband writing to Annie and both getting published the same day must be astronomical. That the letters are nearly the same (word for word in some places) is suspect as well. I don't know, however, what it means. Maybe their letters come from the same original source.

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It sounds like the wife could have very well have written two different letters and changed the wording slightly and dropped them both in the mailbox (or hit send) on the same day.

She may have been trying to get more than one opinion on the subject.

It is a little odd that they both got published on the same day, but, I guess stranger things have happened!

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This all leaves me wondering whether they like Pina Coladas, and getting caught in the rain. If they're not into health food, and -- well, I guess they've already made it obvious that they don't have half a brain.

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I thought we were supposed to be commenting on the fact that wifey said "late 30s" and hubby said "40s"!

But that's just the way my brain works.

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Do you think they were from Yale?

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The most suspicious thing to me is that they were published the same day.

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I don't know if it's a prank or not, but let me tell you, going to a nudist camp really spices up your sex life. My uncle tried that. Well, it wasn't actually a nudist camp, it was downtown at rush hour, but after the police threw him in a cell he said he had some exceptional sex.

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You know, I didn't realize that one said "husband" and one said "wife". I guess I read it too fast and thought they were both from a woman...

I still think it's weird that they both used some of the same wording.

Now I'm wondering if it was just someone trying to get attention by writing the letters. [Confused]

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quote:
Originally posted by Brad from Georgia:
I don't know if it's a prank or not, but let me tell you, going to a nudist camp really spices up your sex life. My uncle tried that. Well, it wasn't actually a nudist camp, it was downtown at rush hour, but after the police threw him in a cell he said he had some exceptional sex.

Too funny, man!! [lol]

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quote:
Originally posted by Oceanic Aura:
I thought we were supposed to be commenting on the fact that wifey said "late 30s" and hubby said "40s"!

My guess is that the wife is in her late 30s, and the man is his 40s...
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quote:
Originally posted by alsachti:
quote:
Originally posted by Oceanic Aura:
I thought we were supposed to be commenting on the fact that wifey said "late 30s" and hubby said "40s"!

My guess is that the wife is in her late 30s, and the man is his 40s...
Or the wife is lying about her age.

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This isn't the first time something like this has happened. Carolyn Hax and Margo Howard answered the same letter on July 7 and August 18, respectively. It's interesting to see the different answers they give; I'd love to see Dan Savage's response to the wife's letter as quoted in the OP. ("That religious background of yours that tells you your body is too sinful to expose? F*ck it, WWIP. I'll bet you tan lines-to-twat burns your priest/rabbi/mullah has done worse. So be GGG for your husband--not because you'll be too old in a few years to have fun (my God, your late thirties? You're just hitting your sexual stride! Not that I would know from personal experience, being only seventeen myself...) but because deep down, you know you want to try these things, too. Whenever people trot out 'religious background' as an excuse not to be sexually adventurous, I know they've run out of real reasons. Good luck, and send me naked pictures of your husband.")

Esprise "advice column junkie" Me

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You really "pegged" Dan Savage there, I have to say- good job!

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Thank you. [Big Grin]

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Ho. ly. crap!

I can HEAR his voice saying ALL of that! BRAVA!!

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I'm going to sound like an ignorant barbarian here, but... Dan Savage?

(In case anyone's curious, "What?! Hendak, you ignorant barbarian!" is from Baldur's Gate II)

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quote:
Originally posted by The Ota Faction:
quote:
Originally posted by alsachti:
quote:
Originally posted by Oceanic Aura:
I thought we were supposed to be commenting on the fact that wifey said "late 30s" and hubby said "40s"!

My guess is that the wife is in her late 30s, and the man is his 40s...
Or the wife is lying about her age.
That is only one in a plethora of possible lies in this scenario.

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quote:
Originally posted by Dragon's Jewel:
I'm going to sound like an ignorant barbarian here, but... Dan Savage?

Only the greatest advice columnist alive!
Wikipedia page on Savage
One of my favorite columns of his
Books by Dan Savage

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quote:
Originally posted by Esprise Me:
quote:
Originally posted by Dragon's Jewel:
I'm going to sound like an ignorant barbarian here, but... Dan Savage?

Only the greatest advice columnist alive!
I second that!

PS I'm aware this is a really pointless post, but I'm a DS evangelist these days.

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