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Cervus
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quote:
Originally posted by terralioness:
I'd ask the people who find it ironically funny ("He doesn't even know he's being a jackass!") to support their reading. I think it's pretty clear that this fictional narrator knows exactly how much of a jackass he's being.

I don't know how to support it; it just seems clear to me that it's satirical. Maybe it's because I've read novels with similar characters who were clearly intended to be satirical and/or the "bad guy"? The fact that he's so casual about his misogyny as he's self-reflecting and asking his ex to take him back seems like a good example of irony to me. (Especially the comments about her sister.) I think it's pretty clear that the man has no idea how much of a douchebag he is, since he writes that even as he's NFBSKing her sister, he's thinking of Connie and asks her to take him back. I don't think any character who was self-aware would consider that a good tactic. Since most men don't behave or think this way, and since his choice of phrases ("throat yogurt", "cinnamon ring") and description of events are extremely tasteless, I take it as a satire of a sleazebag.

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quote:
Originally posted by Snowy Chloe:
quote:
Originally posted by Doug4.7:
Of course, one can't win at this game. If someone responds to a post from a woman, they are "attacking the women". If they DON'T respond, then they are "ignoring the women". [Roll Eyes]

Isn't it possible to envisage a response to a poster, female or otherwise, that is somewhere between an attack and an ignore?
Well, no matter what your intentions are, sometimes the person to whom you're responding will only see your post as an attack. That does make communication very difficult.

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Originally posted by Cervus:

I've been around here a while, and maybe I visit different threads than you do. But in the last few weeks, it seems like many threads are unnecessarily being turned into feminist rants and anyone who doesn't agree with Ryda or Sara at Home's feminist stance is attacked, ridiculed, or mocked by them.

I am hoping this is just a passing trend and that the board won't become dominated by feminist/anti-feminist issues. It's rather repetitive and tiresome because I know exactly what certain posters are going to say.

I have noticed the same thing, and frankly I agree, it is getting old.

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Demonstrating rather neatly, Cervus, that intentions are not really the key.

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quote:
Originally posted by evilrabbit:
In my interpretation, several of the posts in this thread seem to imply that finding the OP humourous is degrading to women (i.e. anti-feminist).

Well, the OP is sexist, finding it funny, IMHO, exposes a certain lack of sensitivity to gender issues.

Here's a series of jokes, taken from some folks back home (WARNING: OFFENSIVE CONTENT FOLLOWS)*************************************************
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What's the difference between a black man and a pizza? A pizza can feed a family of four.

What's the difference between a jew and a pizza? A pizza doesn't cry when you put it in the oven.

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END: OFFENSIVE CONTENT.

Now, the folks who were telling/listening to these jokes thought these were HILARIOUS.

Newsflash. They aren't. They're offensive. They're based on stupid stereotypes. THey're disgusting.

Now, the people laughing at these jokes weren't all racist, and I'm pretty sure none had much of a feeling about people of the Jewish faith one way or another. So, were they all racist pricks? Perhaps not. Does laughing at such a joke show insensitivity towards racial issues? UH, yeah.
Should someone point that out to them, Yeah. Which I did.

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One thing this reminds me of is a conversation I had with my wife. She was upset because me and my cousin refer to wildly inappropriate things as being "awesome." The origin of that was from a deleted scene in the movie Old School. Mitch (Luke Wilson) is (rightly) upset that he slept with a 17 year old. He tells Beanie (Vince Vaughn) that he could go to jail for it. Beanie says, "For what? Being awesome?!" Well when we say somebody was being awesome we don't mean that the person was doing something we approve of or agree with. It actually means they did something so ridiculous that you can't believe any person would actually do it. Maurice Clarett driving around with an arsenal, a bulletproof vest and shooting at cops? That's being awesome right there.

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quote:
Originally posted by Snowy Chloe:
Hmm. evilrabbit, you seem to be suggesting that the world is divided into feminism and its enemies. Is this what you intended to do?

Hm. An interesting point. I suppose, using the most basic definition of "feminism," (a desire for political and social equality between the sexes), one would have to be on one side or the other. It would be hard to advocate neither equality or inequality ( except perhaps by lacking any opinion at all).
But this was not the point I intended to make...
I was addressing the way certain posts seemed to paint those who found the OP humourous. These posts (in my mind, at least) seem to accuse the OP of enforcing, encouraging or cementing unequal gender roles. Several times the OP was refered to as demeaning or objectifying women, and considered to be a way to keep women in oppressive roles. This would make the OP (and, as it seemed to me, anyone who was amused by it) in direct and active opposition to feminist thinking. Thus, "enemy of feminism."

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Ryda Wong, EBfCo.
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quote:
Originally posted by guruwan2b:
Dibs on that for sig!
guru "if you please, Ryda?" wan2b

Of course! Enjoy

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quote:
Originally posted by Cervus:
The fact that he's so casual about his misogyny as he's self-reflecting and asking his ex to take him back seems like a good example of irony to me.

But he's not. He's saying "Why would I take you back, you career-caring, slack-bodied, under-sexed old hag? You won't even let me f*** you whenever and wherever I want! Only thing you were good for was finding the f****** remote."

He was intending to shame and disconcert her, not to actually get her back.

And, considering the mention of the restraining order, the whole thing comes off very threatning and poisonious.

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I understand now.

If it has a penis, it is wrong. My bad. Didn't mean to be born with one - along with "Dan".

I re-read the OP... and laughed. I maintain that it was brilliantly written to depict just what has been discussed.

It saddens me that others can't see the humor.

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It saddens me that you think you're kidding anyone.

Oh, and you still haven't explained how we've all made your point for you.

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~~~~guru looks confused~~~~
{whispers "We're supposed to hate the penis? If so I tender my resignation to Ryda's posse.}

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quote:
Originally posted by Malruhn:
I understand now.

If it has a penis, it is wrong. My bad. Didn't mean to be born with one - along with "Dan".

No one is saying that, as I'm sure you know.

quote:

I re-read the OP... and laughed. I maintain that it was brilliantly written to depict just what has been discussed.

It saddens me that others can't see the humor.

It saddens me that others can't see how that "humor" is demeaning towards women.

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Ryda Wong, EBfCo.
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quote:
Originally posted by STF:
Mitch (Luke Wilson) is (rightly) upset that he slept with a 17 year old. He tells Beanie (Vince Vaughn) that he could go to jail for it. Beanie says, "For what? Being awesome?!" Well when we say somebody was being awesome we don't mean that the person was doing something we approve of or agree with. It actually means they did something so ridiculous that you can't believe any person would actually do it.

Right. Because trying to dodge age-of-consent laws isn't a regular thing. I don't even think I can count the number of men twice to three time older than me that tried to bed me when I was between 13 and 17. I'm sure pretty much every woman on this board has experienced that.

Kinda like in American Beauty, where he almost f**** his daughter's classmate, and stops only because he realizes she's a virgin. If she wasn't, it would've been fine and right for him to schtup her. Hell, some want them to be virgins. All that blood and innocence turns 'em on.

I can't believe that you would try to say that older men stupping teens is something "so ridiculous that you can't believe any person would actually do it." Dude. It's so common it dosen't even make the papers.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ryda Wong:
quote:
Originally posted by Cervus:
The fact that he's so casual about his misogyny as he's self-reflecting and asking his ex to take him back seems like a good example of irony to me.

But he's not. He's saying "Why would I take you back, you career-caring, slack-bodied, under-sexed old hag? You won't even let me f*** you whenever and wherever I want! Only thing you were good for was finding the f****** remote."

He was intending to shame and disconcert her, not to actually get her back.

And, considering the mention of the restraining order, the whole thing comes off very threatning and poisonious.

To you, maybe, but not to me.

Unlike others, I will not accuse you, or anyone else, of having "no sense of humor". We just interpret the piece differently. And I think everyone should realize that everyone's interpretations and attitudes toward the OP are equally valid.

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quote:
Originally posted by guruwan2b:
~~~~guru looks confused~~~~
{whispers "We're supposed to hate the penis? If so I tender my resignation to Ryda's posse.}

NO. No one will take my penis away from me except its rightful owner. And if someone did, trust me, I'd find another one shortly.

Personally, I like the penis. I just don't like it when people behave like a dick.

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quote:
Originally posted by Cervus:
Unlike others, I will not accuse you, or anyone else, of having "no sense of humor". We just interpret the piece differently. And I think everyone should realize that everyone's interpretations and attitudes toward the OP are equally valid.

So, unlike me, you wouldn't have said something to the tellers of the racist jokes I posted above?

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quote:
Originally posted by Ryda Wong:
quote:
Originally posted by STF:
Mitch (Luke Wilson) is (rightly) upset that he slept with a 17 year old. He tells Beanie (Vince Vaughn) that he could go to jail for it. Beanie says, "For what? Being awesome?!" Well when we say somebody was being awesome we don't mean that the person was doing something we approve of or agree with. It actually means they did something so ridiculous that you can't believe any person would actually do it.

Right. Because trying to dodge age-of-consent laws isn't a regular thing. I don't even think I can count the number of men twice to three time older than me that tried to bed me when I was between 13 and 17. I'm sure pretty much every woman on this board has experienced that.

Kinda like in American Beauty, where he almost f**** his daughter's classmate, and stops only because he realizes she's a virgin. If she wasn't, it would've been fine and right for him to schtup her. Hell, some want them to be virgins. All that blood and innocence turns 'em on.

I can't believe that you would try to say that older men stupping teens is something "so ridiculous that you can't believe any person would actually do it." Dude. It's so common it dosen't even make the papers.

I still maintain it's ridiculous to think it's OK due to my own morals. I don't mean it's ridiculous in that it never happens. Besides the ridiculous comment was more directed at the behavior we apply the "awesome" tag to.

BTW, it rarely happens, but I'm with Cervus on this one.

ETA: Some people just have a sick and wrong sense of humor that allows us to see the humor in dark things. Also some of us don't take ourselves as seriously as others (not a shot at anyone just a fact).

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quote:
Originally posted by Ryda Wong:
quote:
Originally posted by Cervus:
Unlike others, I will not accuse you, or anyone else, of having "no sense of humor". We just interpret the piece differently. And I think everyone should realize that everyone's interpretations and attitudes toward the OP are equally valid.

So, unlike me, you wouldn't have said something to the tellers of the racist jokes I posted above?
A lot more goes into that than just whether you think something is funny. Some people are more aggressive and willing to confront people who do wrong. Others are more passive and may let things go simply because they don't want to confront someone. They may well be disgusted by the behavior, but they may also not be willing to confront it.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ryda Wong:
quote:
Originally posted by STF:
Mitch (Luke Wilson) is (rightly) upset that he slept with a 17 year old. He tells Beanie (Vince Vaughn) that he could go to jail for it. Beanie says, "For what? Being awesome?!" Well when we say somebody was being awesome we don't mean that the person was doing something we approve of or agree with. It actually means they did something so ridiculous that you can't believe any person would actually do it.

Right. Because trying to dodge age-of-consent laws isn't a regular thing.
If he lives in an area (like my state) where the legal age is 16, then he isn't dodging the age-of-consent laws.

I will admit that I don't know what state Old School takes place in, but unless you know what state it is, how can you accuse him of Dodging the Age-of-consent laws?

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quote:
Originally posted by Ryda Wong:
Personally, I like the penis. I just don't like it when people behave like a dick.

Okay, not my style (so I won't use it), but that would make a great sig. line.

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quote:
Originally posted by STF:
quote:
Originally posted by Ryda Wong:
quote:
Originally posted by Cervus:
Unlike others, I will not accuse you, or anyone else, of having "no sense of humor". We just interpret the piece differently. And I think everyone should realize that everyone's interpretations and attitudes toward the OP are equally valid.

So, unlike me, you wouldn't have said something to the tellers of the racist jokes I posted above?
A lot more goes into that than just whether you think something is funny. Some people are more aggressive and willing to confront people who do wrong. Others are more passive and may let things go simply because they don't want to confront someone. They may well be disgusted by the behavior, but they may also not be willing to confront it.
I believe Ryda's argument, and indeed mine, is that those people are therefore condoning that which they object to and which disgusts them. Which makes them to some extent culpable for the perpetuation of that which they object to, and which disgusts them.

You know? All that is needed for evil to prevail and all that?

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quote:
Originally posted by Dara bhur gCara:
quote:
Originally posted by STF:
quote:
Originally posted by Ryda Wong:
quote:
Originally posted by Cervus:
Unlike others, I will not accuse you, or anyone else, of having "no sense of humor". We just interpret the piece differently. And I think everyone should realize that everyone's interpretations and attitudes toward the OP are equally valid.

So, unlike me, you wouldn't have said something to the tellers of the racist jokes I posted above?
A lot more goes into that than just whether you think something is funny. Some people are more aggressive and willing to confront people who do wrong. Others are more passive and may let things go simply because they don't want to confront someone. They may well be disgusted by the behavior, but they may also not be willing to confront it.
I believe Ryda's argument, and indeed mine, is that those people are therefore condoning that which they object to and which disgusts them. Which makes them to some extent culpable for the perpetuation of that which they object to, and which disgusts them.

You know? All that is needed for evil to prevail and all that?

I agree with that to some extent, but I'm not willing to lump those who fail to confront in with those who are truly disgusting people. I'm just not. I respect that you two are, but I'm not willing to go that far. I think it tends to minimize how wrong the truly wrong are and demonize people that are good.

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quote:
Originally posted by DemonWolf:
quote:
Originally posted by Ryda Wong:
quote:
Originally posted by STF:
Mitch (Luke Wilson) is (rightly) upset that he slept with a 17 year old. He tells Beanie (Vince Vaughn) that he could go to jail for it. Beanie says, "For what? Being awesome?!" Well when we say somebody was being awesome we don't mean that the person was doing something we approve of or agree with. It actually means they did something so ridiculous that you can't believe any person would actually do it.

Right. Because trying to dodge age-of-consent laws isn't a regular thing.
If he lives in an area (like my state) where the legal age is 16, then he isn't dodging the age-of-consent laws.

I will admit that I don't know what state Old School takes place in, but unless you know what state it is, how can you accuse him of Dodging the Age-of-consent laws?

If he is worried about going to jail, then either they live in a place where 18 is the age of consent or they think that is the age of consent. Either way, Beanie thinks that sleeping with a 17 year old is awesome even though (he thinks) it is a crime.

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quote:
Originally posted by GenYus:
quote:
Originally posted by DemonWolf:
quote:
Originally posted by Ryda Wong:
quote:
Originally posted by STF:
Mitch (Luke Wilson) is (rightly) upset that he slept with a 17 year old. He tells Beanie (Vince Vaughn) that he could go to jail for it. Beanie says, "For what? Being awesome?!" Well when we say somebody was being awesome we don't mean that the person was doing something we approve of or agree with. It actually means they did something so ridiculous that you can't believe any person would actually do it.

Right. Because trying to dodge age-of-consent laws isn't a regular thing.
If he lives in an area (like my state) where the legal age is 16, then he isn't dodging the age-of-consent laws.

I will admit that I don't know what state Old School takes place in, but unless you know what state it is, how can you accuse him of Dodging the Age-of-consent laws?

If he is worried about going to jail, then either they live in a place where 18 is the age of consent or they think that is the age of consent. Either way, Beanie thinks that sleeping with a 17 year old is awesome even though (he thinks) it is a crime.
True, which shows Beanie's moral compass is off to say the least. This is the basis for us using the term awesome in the opposite sense.

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Originally posted by Dara bhur gCara:
I believe Ryda's argument, and indeed mine, is that those people are therefore condoning that which they object to and which disgusts them. Which makes them to some extent culpable for the perpetuation of that which they object to, and which disgusts them.

You know? All that is needed for evil to prevail and all that?

And that is a valid point. However, sometime I (personally) find concepts funny that I would never condone in real life. For example, I Occasionally watch South Park. Cartman hitting random animals on the head and yelling "Bad (animal)!" makes me laugh. If I saw you do this in real life, I would be appalled.

This letter is an example of "conceptually funny" - I find it funny because the author is demonstrating the absolute worst of behavior. If this was an actualy letter, I would not find it nearly so amusing.

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Originally posted by DemonWolf:
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Originally posted by Dara bhur gCara:
I believe Ryda's argument, and indeed mine, is that those people are therefore condoning that which they object to and which disgusts them. Which makes them to some extent culpable for the perpetuation of that which they object to, and which disgusts them.

You know? All that is needed for evil to prevail and all that?

And that is a valid point. However, sometime I (personally) find concepts funny that I would never condone in real life. For example, I Occasionally watch South Park. Cartman hitting random animals on the head and yelling "Bad (animal)!" makes me laugh. If I saw you do this in real life, I would be appalled.

This letter is an example of "conceptually funny" - I find it funny because the author is demonstrating the absolute worst of behavior. If this was an actualy letter, I would not find it nearly so amusing.

That's pretty much how I feel about it. The Cartman example is a good one. It's funny watching him do that to animated animals. If someone did that to my dog I'd be pissed.

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Originally posted by DemonWolf:
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Originally posted by Ryda Wong:
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Originally posted by STF:
Mitch (Luke Wilson) is (rightly) upset that he slept with a 17 year old. He tells Beanie (Vince Vaughn) that he could go to jail for it. Beanie says, "For what? Being awesome?!" Well when we say somebody was being awesome we don't mean that the person was doing something we approve of or agree with. It actually means they did something so ridiculous that you can't believe any person would actually do it.

Right. Because trying to dodge age-of-consent laws isn't a regular thing.
If he lives in an area (like my state) where the legal age is 16, then he isn't dodging the age-of-consent laws.

I will admit that I don't know what state Old School takes place in, but unless you know what state it is, how can you accuse him of Dodging the Age-of-consent laws?

Because he says he's afraid of going to jail?

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Originally posted by STF:
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Originally posted by Ryda Wong:
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Originally posted by STF:
Mitch (Luke Wilson) is (rightly) upset that he slept with a 17 year old. He tells Beanie (Vince Vaughn) that he could go to jail for it. Beanie says, "For what? Being awesome?!" Well when we say somebody was being awesome we don't mean that the person was doing something we approve of or agree with. It actually means they did something so ridiculous that you can't believe any person would actually do it.

Right. Because trying to dodge age-of-consent laws isn't a regular thing. I don't even think I can count the number of men twice to three time older than me that tried to bed me when I was between 13 and 17. I'm sure pretty much every woman on this board has experienced that.

Kinda like in American Beauty, where he almost f**** his daughter's classmate, and stops only because he realizes she's a virgin. If she wasn't, it would've been fine and right for him to schtup her. Hell, some want them to be virgins. All that blood and innocence turns 'em on.

I can't believe that you would try to say that older men stupping teens is something "so ridiculous that you can't believe any person would actually do it." Dude. It's so common it dosen't even make the papers.

I still maintain it's ridiculous to think it's OK due to my own morals. I don't mean it's ridiculous in that it never happens. Besides the ridiculous comment was more directed at the behavior we apply the "awesome" tag to.
So, let me get this straight. Someone on a movie or in a joke or in some other text displays ridiculious behavior, which you would find immoral, and which may infact be illegal, and that is "awesome?" I mean, I'm willing to accept that, I just don't get it.
If you can't or don't care to, that's fine, but I'd love to know what makes it "awesome" (really. I'm not asking that sarcastically).

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ETA: Some people just have a sick and wrong sense of humor that allows us to see the humor in dark things. Also some of us don't take ourselves as seriously as others (not a shot at anyone just a fact).

I adore dark comedy. I just don't adore boorish behavior. I think there's a difference. For example, the House of Yes is quite funny and very dark. It's also clever and it tackles a HIGHLY transgressive issue (namely sibling incest). Welcome to the Dollhouse and Storytelling and Hapiness are all films that can be quite hilarious, but, once again, they are very, very dark, and they tackle transgressive issues.

Sorry, but dark the OP is not. It's just devoid.

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Originally posted by Ryda Wong:
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Originally posted by STF:
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Originally posted by Ryda Wong:
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Originally posted by STF:
Mitch (Luke Wilson) is (rightly) upset that he slept with a 17 year old. He tells Beanie (Vince Vaughn) that he could go to jail for it. Beanie says, "For what? Being awesome?!" Well when we say somebody was being awesome we don't mean that the person was doing something we approve of or agree with. It actually means they did something so ridiculous that you can't believe any person would actually do it.

Right. Because trying to dodge age-of-consent laws isn't a regular thing. I don't even think I can count the number of men twice to three time older than me that tried to bed me when I was between 13 and 17. I'm sure pretty much every woman on this board has experienced that.

Kinda like in American Beauty, where he almost f**** his daughter's classmate, and stops only because he realizes she's a virgin. If she wasn't, it would've been fine and right for him to schtup her. Hell, some want them to be virgins. All that blood and innocence turns 'em on.

I can't believe that you would try to say that older men stupping teens is something "so ridiculous that you can't believe any person would actually do it." Dude. It's so common it dosen't even make the papers.

I still maintain it's ridiculous to think it's OK due to my own morals. I don't mean it's ridiculous in that it never happens. Besides the ridiculous comment was more directed at the behavior we apply the "awesome" tag to.
So, let me get this straight. Someone on a movie or in a joke or in some other text displays ridiculious behavior, which you would find immoral, and which may infact be illegal, and that is "awesome?" I mean, I'm willing to accept that, I just don't get it.
If you can't or don't care to, that's fine, but I'd love to know what makes it "awesome" (really. I'm not asking that sarcastically).

What makes it awesome is that it is in fact totally not awesome. It's a sarcastic way of saying, "What a dumbass!" and making it sound like a compliment. When I say that some athlete who says something totally ridiculous is "awesome" I'm just saying that he's being an idiot and so forth and so on. It's not really that much unlike the 80s when "bad" was good.

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STF, this sounds like a usage you and your cousin (?) came up with. Do you really expect it to be widely understood?

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STF, this sounds like a usage you and your cousin (?) came up with. Do you really expect it to be widely understood?

No. Did I ever give the impression that I did?

ETA: That's why I explained it in the same post that I mentioned it.

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[QB] 1) rsamboragal, While I may disagree with Ryda often, I must say that she has conducted herself decently in this thread, while you have decended even below the realm of personal insults to the point where you are trying to make fun of Ryda's offended-ness at the OP by saying
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I'm offended by the use of the word chicken. I'm off to kick rocks.
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????????? I was making fun of the entire ridiculousness of where the thread went. This is just nfbsking amazing how my words are being twisted. It had absolutely nothing to do with Ryda or anyone else on a personal level. If I was talking to Ryda, believe me, I would've prefaced my sentence with her name. Now, would everyone kindly get the nfbsk off my back? Thanks.

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Originally posted by STF:
What makes it awesome is that it is in fact totally not awesome. It's a sarcastic way of saying, "What a dumbass!" and making it sound like a compliment. When I say that some athlete who says something totally ridiculous is "awesome" I'm just saying that he's being an idiot and so forth and so on. It's not really that much unlike the 80s when "bad" was good.

So, awesome actually means "what a disgusting waste of flesh" in your parlance. And you use this so often that even your wife doesn't realize that connotation?

Nevermind. Got it. Awesome means totally sucky and genius means brainless.

OK. Now that we have this solved....

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Hmm. evilrabbit, you seem to be suggesting that the world is divided into feminism and its enemies. Is this what you intended to do?

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Hm. An interesting point. I suppose, using the most basic definition of "feminism," (a desire for political and social equality between the sexes), one would have to be on one side or the other. It would be hard to advocate neither equality or inequality ( except perhaps by lacking any opinion at all).
Those aren't the options, though. Imagine the following: I bypass Hooters on my work to work, ergo I am a feminist. Yay! But I buy my niece Barbie pyjamas on the way home. Ergo, I am an enemy of feminism. Boo! How silly is that?

Life isn't that simple. Some decisions, attitudes, terms, etc. perpetuate the patriarchy. Others help to question it. My problem with your interpretation that Ryda is saying that anyone who finds the joke funny is "an enemy of feminism" (your phrase, btw), is that it is a massive and distorting over-simplification of a nuanced and well-considered opinion.

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