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quote:
Originally posted by snopes:
Comment: I was reading an article about Best Buy and the story came up
about the staff not recognising $2 bills. This reminded me of the Snopes
article on the same problem at Taco Bell. I was also taken by Mike
Bolesta's unusual name...well unusual here in Scotland. A 30 second
jumbling of the letters of MICHAEL BOLESTA generates I SHAME TACO BELL. I
notice that you have already updated your site with the Bolesta story but
I suspect the anagram proves that we are probably dealing with some prime
BS.

And when you convert it to the numeric alphabet, square the result, apply the quadratic formula, apply the Logarithim of Oleo, then convert back to alphanumerics, you get...

"45232wffeafeio!"

Crap, better start again...

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quote:
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I'm afraid you do not know me, but unfortunately I am all too familiar with you and your website. I hail from 200 years in the future, and the Earth is but a blackened shell.

(snipped due to it's huge length - just needed something so y'all would know what I was referring to.)


I'm reading this more like: "Doh! You got me. I can't believe I fell for it."

Just written in a witty manner, and perhaps a one-upmanship of "I'll show you!"

I'd be willing to bet that the author would be laughing at being in the Tinfoil Hat catagory, just as much as we snicker at people who actually believe Mr. Ed was a zebra.

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I'm afraid you do not know me, but unfortunately I am all too familiar
with you and your website. I hail from 200 years in the future, and the
Earth is but a blackened shell. As few as 100 humans survive, living in a
cramped bunker miles under the surface, awaiting a time when we may
re-colonise the planet, or are caught by the ever lingering embrace of
death. And as we do so we curse your very name.

I am almost wetting myself laughing at this one. Did it get stuck in a time warp and miss April 1st? It's a classic and deserves to be preserved.

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Comment: To all our Viewers and Supporters,

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Comment: So you have this information before it starts circulating. Yes
it's true, I can provide the actual names but they must remain
anonymous.... I am Destiny. I am going to start circulating this letter to
all my friends, family members, every person on my email address book.
Sooner or later Juliet will somehow see it. I'm sending it to newspapers,
and posting it around the small town that is involved, here in Arkansas.

Romeo and Juliet Alive!!

Yes, it's true, in this day of advanced technology, where peace and
democracy is desired worldwide, right here in the Benton area a real life
Romeo and Juliet is unfolding.

Romeo met Juliet almost a year ago. They fell madly in love, spent every
precious minute together, at times going to movies at other times simply
lounging at either of their families' homes watching television, content
to revel in each other's company. Their bliss deepened as her father
asked him to come to work for him. Now they saw each other even more,
their love deepening with each passing moment. Juliet's father,
Octavious, was having some trouble with his business and needed help with
it, so Romeo being the sensitive soul he is, offered Octavious, assistance
in the form of his own parent, Destiny, highly qualified in the areas
where Octavious needed assistance.

Octavious and Desmonda, his wife, were overjoyed at the offer and accepted
it. The honeymoon between the parents ended quickly however, when Destiny
began uncovering illegal activities being perpetuated by Octavious in his
business. After making her concerns known to Octavious and Desmonda,
Destiny told them she wanted to phase out of the company and was informed
the company could no longer afford to pay for her services.

Destiny was now facing a serious dilemma, living with integrity and
honesty is the core of who she is and how she raised her family, so she
struggled internally, torn between her love for Romeo and Juliet and her
own values. The issue weighed heavily on Destiny, unsure of what she
should do, be true to herself and honest or remain quiet and become part
of the silence epidemic.

Meanwhile Octavious, outraged that Destiny would dare expose his actions,
began to attempt to discredit Destiny and Romeo, making up lies and
stories, telling Juliet that Romeo was being unfaithful to her, attempting
to drive a wedge between them where he could build a wall. Romeo,
however, continued being his loving, sensitive caring self, devoting all
his time now to Juliet at her home, since Juliet was forbidden to talk to
Destiny, whose only crime was being honest.

Poor Romeo felt the burden of the bitterness of Octavious toward Destiny,
and Destiny's confusion as to why suddenly after nearly a year Juliet
couldn't be around her. Octavious claimed it was because Destiny's
character was immoral, yet Destiny committed no crime. Octavious
threatened Romeo and Juliet that he'd never let them see each other if
they disobeyed him.

Romeo and Juliet began planning, only a few more months and Juliet would
be of legal age to make her own choices. Destiny became upset and hurt
because of Octavious behavior and her desire to see Juliet whom she
adored. Destiny made her choice, after much deliberation and contacted
the governmental agencies to whom Octavious was defrauding and filed
official complaints. No one knew of these complaints except Destiny and
her family for many weeks.

Romeo was being pressured more and more by Octavious to quit, in spite of
overwhelming positive comments and feedback from customers. Romeo, turned
on Destiny, telling Octavious that Destiny had contacted one of the
agencies he was defrauding. Octavious now became even more incensed and
told Juliet to break it off with Romeo. Juliet refused, and Octavious
whisked Juliet and the rest of his family away, cutting off all contact
(taking their cell phones) so Juliet wouldn't be able to talk to Romeo.

Romeo was devastated, but waited for his love, leaving a dozen red roses
and a heart felt card on her doorstep for when she returned. Juliet, in
turn upon her arrival home gave Romeo a gift, two names, she asked him to
display proudly on his truck, to show the world how much they love each
other. Romeo placed the names in his bedroom, with the intent of pleasing
Juliet at the first opportunity he had.

Fate was not to be so kind to Romeo and Juliet, Octavious had become even
more enraged, and finally coerced Juliet into breaking up with Romeo.
Juliet begged Romeo to wait for her, just a few months. Romeo returned
home a broken man, and fell to his knees on the doorstep outside his home.
Destiny hearing his arrival, worried because he was late opened the door
to find her child distraught choking great heaving sobs, his body shaking,
her heart breaking for her son. After what seemed like eternity Romeo
managed to tell Destiny that Juliet was forced to break off with him, that
she'd begged him to wait for her. Through tear stained lips he sobbed how
he missed her so much already, he didn't know how he'd live through not
being with her.

Destiny suddenly became the tigress whose cub was harmed, went into her
home enraged and called Octavious, telling him exactly what she'd done and
that she knew what he'd been doing. She was vicious in her words all left
on an answering machine. Destiny told Romeo she'd left the message for
Octavious, then coddled her son, telling him how she wished she could take
his pain away.

Octavious contacted, a police officer friend in the tiny town, who filed a
report charging Destiny with harassing communication and attacked Destiny
verbally on the telephone then lied on the police report stating she'd
hung up on him when she didn't. Threats and intimidation of jailing for
one simple message that was the truth.

This, however, was not enough for Octavious, who in his paranoid mind,
felt that Destiny needed to be shown who she was dealing with, so he had
his officer friend contact the Employer of Destiny's husband and also
contact her husband as well.

Romeo, completed destroyed by all Octavious' actions fled to his room
where he lay throughout the night unable to breathe, feeling as though his
insides had been ripped out, the crushing weight of the vacuum left by his
soul empty, his heart shredded. All that he'd lived for, suddenly
evaporated.

Octavious still wasn't finished with Romeo, he told his police friend that
Romeo's job was still there and yet the next morning when Romeo went to
work, Octavious fired him, stating that he had a problem with Destiny.
Romeo returned home unable to talk to Juliet who was now being followed by
Desmonda everywhere she went.

Romeo wept and wept, his beautiful face swollen from the tears of recent
events, his eyes nearly shut. His heart beats for one, Juliet and for her
he did as she asked. He'd put the names on his truck, and positioned the
truck so the world would see them.

This still was not enough for Octavious, he began to smear Romeo's
character to Romeo's own friends, claiming knowledge that was not only
untrue but slanderous as well. Romeo called Destiny his own rage building
over Octavious' lies.

Destiny and her husband, spoke with Romeo at length trying to calm him,
urging him realize that Octavious lies would bring him cold comfort. The
truth would come out when the criminal investigations prove that Destiny
does not lie, that Octavious is deceitful, lying, manipulative and a
criminal at heart and not the upstanding Christian he claims to be.

Romeo moves slowly, his steps drag, his body sags, his head hangs. He
feels no reason to stand up and look at the beautiful world around him.
For the next half year he'll wait. He'll proudly display her name on his
truck, and smile each time he sees it, yet be crushed because she's no
longer sitting beneath it, beside him. She's no longer running happily to
see him jumping into the air for him to catch her, safe in the knowledge
that he'd never let her fall. Safe in the knowledge that no matter what
happens in the world around them, his love for her is safe.

Those who know Romeo know he's one of a kind, the man every mother wants
for her daughter, the loving, romantic, caring, devoted man whose love is
unconditional, protective and nurturing.

Romeo worries constantly about Juliet, she's become a recluse, not
speaking to any of her best friends. Contacting no one, speaking to no
one, fear her biggest motivator. Fear of the threats by Octavious of
which Romeo can only guess. Romeo worries that she cries herself to sleep,
that her heart aches for him as his for her, that her arms pain to hold
him as his pain to hold her. Romeo dreams of their future, one where he
and Juliet are together, their small children laughing around them,
holding tight to his love, keeping his promise. So he waits.

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Comment: Subject: Numbers
Those of you who do not believe in numbers, Please check this out about
the late PJP2, better known to you as Pope John Paul ll.

1. Died on the 2.4.2005

2+4+2+5= 13

2. He died at 21.37

2+1+3+7= 13

3. The 13th week of the year


4. He was Pope for 26 years and 5 months

2+6+5= 13


5. Which makes it 9301 days

9+3+0+1= 13

6. Ali Agha tried to assassinate him on the 13th May


7. He was 85 years old

8+5= 13

8. He was elected Pope when he was 58

5+8= 13

9. He was the 265th pope in the Roman Catholic Church

2+6+5= 13


The truth will set you free!

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quote:
Originally posted by snopes:
Comment: Subject: Numbers
Those of you who do not believe in numbers, Please check this out about the late PJP2, better known to you as Pope John Paul ll.

Not to let pesky little things like "facts" get in the way of a good (for variable definitions of the word "good") numerology rant, but...

quote:
4. He was Pope for 26 years and 5 months

2+6+5= 13

Well, 26 years, 5 months, 17 days. But who's counting?

quote:
5. Which makes it 9301 days

9+3+0+1= 13

Well, except for the fact that he was Pope for 9665 days. (And that 9301 days = ~25.5 years)

quote:
7. He was 85 years old

8+5= 13

Actually, he died before his 85th birthday, so he was 84 years old.

quote:
9. He was the 265th pope in the Roman Catholic Church

2+6+5= 13

Although it should be pointed out that the Vatican considers him the 264th Pope, having disregarded the papacy of Pope Stephen II (who only served for three days in 752 before dying).

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So what is the point? The late Pope was Satan or something, because numbers come up to 13? What am I missing here?

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OK, no more lurking.

12 out of every (roughly) 365.25 people is born on the 13th of each month. Coincidence? I think not!

Again, a similar number of people people are born on the 6th or each month. Their one month birthday is again on the 6th. Yet again, their two month birthday is on the 6th. Put them together and you have 666.

Again, 11 out of every 12 people are born in a month with 30 or 31 days. Divide that by 5, chop off the decimal, and you get 6. Do that again for the month of their first 2 birthdays, and you get another 6 each time. 666 again.

11/12th of us are DOOMED.

I'm sure if the writer of the earlier post were to add up enough numbers he could find a mathematical proof showing that all but the elite are destined to burn in hell due to misguded arithmetic.

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hmm, let me see.

I was born in 1985.

8+5=... 13!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Eek!] Oh my God!! I'm destined to burn in hell!! Or to become the next pope? [Confused]

OK, I got it... [fish]

Welcome to the boards! (I get to say it again!)

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quote:
[Eek!] Oh my God!! I'm destined to burn in hell!! Or to become the next pope? [Confused]
So, what am I supposed to feel?

I was born on a Friday the 13th.

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Comment: Re "involuntary civil commitment", apparently even before the
first PATRIOT Act all it took for you to disappear into secret custody was
that the President took against you.

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Comment: I believe this web site is a deliberate disinformation website
intended to mislead people away from most of the truth behind "myths".
There are people out there that know the truth. This website can only
misinform the people who have been domesticated; a term I'm sure you're
familiar with.

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Uh oh, I was born on July 6th...Dum da dum dum DAAAH! But I can't be Pope because Mercury was in retrograde and the groundhog didn't see his shadow that year.

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quote:
Originally posted by snopes:
This website can only
misinform the people who have been domesticated; a term I'm sure you're
familiar with.

It is true that snopes is familiar with cats that have been domesticated.
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Comment: Lucy in the Sky refers to the constellation Orion, pointing at
the star Lucius in the diamond belt of the Greek Warrior. It is not an
advertisement for LSD. I wrote the lyrics for the group when I was 8 years
old in Greeley Colorado, submitted as part of a contest to meet the
Beatles.

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Was "plasticine" even available in the U.S. at the time?

ETA: In the US, the generic term modeling clay is much more widely used, and many people are not quite sure what "plasticine" is, although the particular brand is available.

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Well, yeah, but every 8-year-old in Greeley, Colorado knows about plasticine!

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quote:
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Comment: Lucy in the Sky refers to the constellation Orion, pointing at the star Lucius in the diamond belt of the Greek Warrior.

The three stars in Orion's Belt are Mintaka (δ Orionis), the westernmost star in the belt, the name is the Arabic word for "belt;" Alnilam (ε Orionis), the center star in the belt, means "a belt of pearls;" and Alnitak (ζ Orionis), the eastern-most star, means "the girdle." There is no named star in Orion called "Lucius."

Source: Robert Burnham Jr. Burnham's Celestial Handbook, pages 1302 and 1305 (Vol. 2).

ETA: Give astronomical names and source.

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And let us not forget Newsitax, a star in the Tschorr constellation - the ancients referred to it as the "Newspaper Taxi". I do believe it appears on the Tschorr.

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Comment: I`m concerned about information being wiped from the internet
database about the DuPont Explosives Plant that existed at Louviers
Colorado since 1886,(where nitro-glycerin was made)and Martin Marietta
Plant at Waterton Colorado,(Bowling For Columbine) where around 1958 or
1960 the 5 families living there mysteriously died and the Government
fenced off the structures for 25 years then in 1967 one mile down
river,(Platte) they condemned the town of Riverside Acres after the 1965
flood when Castlewood Canyon Dam broke to build Chatfield Dam claiming it
was a flood control project when minimal spring runoff from the snowpack
has proven that to be completely false!

The Corps of Engineers under Donald Rumsfeld`s supervision dug a hole a
half mile deep,over 2 miles long and a mile wide hauling every bit of the
dirt to either Rocky Flats via Semi or tranferring it to railcar at DuPont
Louviers as it was contaminated with perchlorate from the Martin Marietta
Facility which has a 4 mile deep waste pit on site where they have been
dumping spent rocket fuel and medical waste since the plant was built in
1956 and the kids who lived in Riverside Acres downstream from Waterton
where the plant workers families died all had liver and kidney diseases my
guess is from early experiments geared toward space travel ie; reduction
of urine output and attempts to alter liver function to filter toxins for
in the 1980`s when that minimal spring runoff occurred Roxborough Park
Elementary School would have an outbreak of Hepatitis when the watertable
level would rise.(About 3 years ago Waterton made International News when
Scientists found mutant fish there, these scientists had "accidents" and
no trace of the findings are in print or posted anywhere)

DuPont was "THE" Hazardous Chemical Waste Disposal site through 1973 when
the EPA put the plant on the superfund list and recently Army Engineers
found 20 times the amount of perchlorate in a water well at DuPont
Louviers which is 10 miles UPSTREAM from Chatfield/Waterton and 2000 feet
higher in elevation,now that page is missing from the internet but on it
the Engineer states the explosives plant made rocket fuel as his
explanation for finding it concentrated there,the fact is a now dead
worker at DuPont did not put that dirtydirt on the train in 1967 he spread
it around the 900 acres where in 1935 there was a fire that destroyed the
charts showing where 3 rail tankers full of nitroglycerin were buried out
of fear the Nazis who contracted with DuPont through Prescott Bush could
get thier hands on it, AND it is still buried there today on a 900 acre
"wildlife refuge" donated by DuPont...

That is 900 acres in Douglas County Colorado,formerly the richest county
in the nation where zoned industrial land was valued in 1997 at
$230,000/acre. You have verified that one of the DuPont`s killed
Pro-Wrestler Steve "Doctor Death" Williams

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Comment: What do y'all know about this...

READ THIS! READ THIS! READ THIS! READ THIS! READ THIS! READ THIS!

KING ALFRED*


In the event of widespread and continuing and coordinated racial
disturbances in the United States, King Alfred, at the discretion of the
President, is to be put into action immediately.


PARTICIPATING FEDERAL AGENCIES


National Security Council Department of Justice
Central Intelligence Agency Department of Defense
Federal Bureau of Investigation Department of Interior


PARTICIPATING STATE AGENCIES
(Under Federal Jurisdiction)


National Guard Units State Police


PARTICIPATING LOCAL AGENCIES
(Under Federal Jurisdiction)


City Police County Police


Memo: National Security Council


Even before 1954, when the Supreme Court of the United States of
America declared unconstitutional separate educational and recreational
facilities, racial unrest and discord had become very nearly a part of the
American way of life. But that way of life was repugnant to most
Americans. Since 1954, however, that unrest and discord have broken out
into widespread violence which increasingly have placed the peace and
stability of the nation in dire jeopardy. This violence has resulted in
loss of life, limb and property, and has cost the taxpayers of this nation
billions of dollars. And the end is not yet in sight. This same violence
has raised the tremendously grave question as to whether the races can
ever live in peace with each other. Each passing month has brought new
intelligence that, despite new laws passed to alleviate the condition of
the Minority, the Minority still is not satisfied. Demonstrations and
rioting have become a part of the familiar scene. Troops have been called
out in city after city across the land, and our image as a world leader
severely damaged. Our enemies press closer, seeking the advantage,
possibly at a time during one of these outbreaks of violence. The
Minority has adopted an almost military posture to gain its objectives,
which are not clear to most Americans. It is expected, therefore, that
when those objectives are denied the Minority, racial war must be
considered inevitable. When that emergency comes, we must expect the
total involvement of all 22 million members of the Minority, men, women,
and children, for once this project is launched, its goal is to terminate,
once and for all, the Minority threat to the whole of the American
society, and indeed, the Free World.
Chairman, National Security Council


Preliminary Memo: Department of Interior


Under King Alfred, the nation has been divided into 10 regions. In
case of Emergency, Minority members will be evacuated from the cities by
federalized national guard units, local and state police and, if
necessary, by units of the Regular Armed Forces, using public and military
transportation, and detained in nearby military installations until a
further course of action has been decided.


1 - Capital Region 6 - Deep South Region
2 - Northeast Region 7 - Deep South Region II
3 - Southeast Region 8 - Great Plains, Rocky mountain
Region
4 - Great Lakes Region 9 - Southwest Region
5 - South Central Region 10 - West Coast Region


No attempt will be made to seal off the Canadian and Mexican borders.


Secretary,
Department of Interior


* 849-899 King of England who slaughtered thousands under the disguise of
protecting the European religion of Christianity. As a result he was
revered as one of the most noble Kings in the history of England.


Combined Memo: Department of Justice


Preliminary Memo: Federal Bureau of Investigation & Central Intelligence
Agency


There are 12 major Minority organizations and all are familiar to the 22
million. Dossiers have been compiled on the leaders of the organizations,
and can be studied in Washington. The material contained in many of the
dossiers, and our threat to reveal that material, has considerably held in
check some of the leaders. Leaders who do not have such usable material
in their dossiers have been approached to take government posts, mostly as
ambassadors and primarily in African countries. The promise of these
positions also has materially contributed to a temporary slow-down of
Minority activities. However, we do not expect these slow-downs to be of
long duration, because there are always new and dissident elements joining
these organizations, with the potential power to replace the old leaders.
All organizations and their leaders are under constant, 24-hour
surveillance. The organizations are:
1 - The Black Muslims
2 - Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC)
3 - Congress of Racial Equality
4 - Uhuru Movement
5 - Group On Advanced Leadership (GOAL)
6 - Freedom Now Party (FNP)
7 - United Black Nationalists of America (UBNA)
8 - The New Pan-African Movement (TNPAM)
9 - Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC)
10 - The National Urban League (NUL)
11 - The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People
(NAACP)
12 - Committee on Racial and Religious Progress (CORARP)


NOTE: At the appropriate time, to be designated by the President, the
leaders of some of these organizations are to be detained ONLY WHEN IT IS
CLEAR THAT THEY CANNOT PREVENT THE EMERGENCY, working with local public
officials during the first critical hours. All other leaders are to be
detained at once. Compiled lists of Minority leaders have been readied at
the National Data Computer Center. It is necessary to use the Minority
leaders designated by the President in much the same manner in which we
use Minority members who are agents with Central and Federal, and we
cannot, until there is no alternative, reveal King Alfred in all its
aspects. Minority members of Congress will be unseated at once. This
move is not without precedent in American history.


Attorney General


Preliminary Memo: Department of Defense


This memo is being submitted in lieu of a full report from the Joint
Chiefs of Staff. That report is now in preparation. There will be many
cities where the Minority will be able to put into the street a superior
number of people with a desperate and dangerous will. He will be a
formidable enemy, for he is bound to the Continent by heritage and knows
that political asylum will not be available to him in other countries.
The greatest concentration of the Minority is in the Deep South, the
Eastern seaboard, the Great lakes region and the West Coast. While the
national population exceeds that of the Minority by more than ten times,
we must realistically take into account the following:


1 - An estimated 40-50 percent of the white population will not, for
various reasons, engage the Minority during an Emergency.


2 - American Armed Forces are spread around the world. A breakout of war
abroad means fewer troops at home to handle the Emergency.


3 - Local law enforcement officials must contain the Emergency until help
arrives, though it may mean fighting a superior force. New York City, for
example, has a 25,000 man police force, but there are about one million
Minority members in the city.


We are confident that the Minority would hold any city it took for only a
few hours. The lack of weapons, facilities, logistics --- all put the
Minority at a final disadvantage.


Since the Korean War, this department has shifted Minority members of the
Armed Forces to areas where combat is most likely to occur, with the aim
of eliminating, through combat, as many combat-trained military servicemen
as possible. Today the ratio of Minority member combat deaths in Vietnam,
where they are serving as "advisors," is twice as high as the Minority
population ratio to the rest of America. Below is the timetable for King
Alfred as tentatively suggested by the JCS who recommend that the
operation be made over a period of eight hours:


1. Local police and Minority leaders in action to head off the Emergency.


2. Countdown to eight hours begins at the moment the President determines
the Emergency to be:
a. National
b. Coordinated
c. Of Long Duration 8th hour


3. County police join local police 7th hour


4. State police join county and local police 6th
hour


5. Federal marshals join state, county, and local forces
5th hour


6. National guards federalized, held in readiness 4th
hour


7. Regular Armed Forces alerted, take up positions;
Minority troops divided and detained,
along with all white sympathizers, under guard 3rd
hour


8. All minority leaders, national and local detained
2nd hour


9. President addresses Minority on radio-television,
gives it one hour to end the Emergency 1st hour


10. All units under regional commands into the Emergency 0
hour


"0" Committee Report:
Survey shows that during a six-year period, production created 9,000,000
objects, or 1,500,000 each year. Production could not dispose of the
containers, which proved a bottleneck. However, that was almost 20 years
ago. We suggest that vaporization techniques be employed to overcome the
production problems inherent in King Alfred.


(The "0" Committee Report is referring to the problems that occurred in
Nazi Germany when the furnaces were not hot enough to burn the bodies that
Hitler had killed. The bodies clogged up the furnaces thereby causing a
problem that the above committee recommends avoiding by building
high-volume (nuclear-powered) incinerators that burn 5,000 degrees. It
should be noted that steel melts at approximately 2700 degrees!)

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Where. In the name of all that is holy. Do people get this stuff?

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quote:
Since the Korean War, this department has shifted Minority members of the Armed Forces to areas where combat is most likely to occur, with the aim of eliminating, through combat, as many combat-trained military servicemen as possible. Today the ratio of Minority member combat deaths in Vietnam, where they are serving as "advisors," is twice as high as the Minority population ratio to the rest of America.
This was almost certainly written between 1955 and 1965. On January 1, 1956, there were 76 American advisors in Vietnam. On March 8, 1965, the first American combat troops (3rd Marine Regiment) arrived in Vietnam. The period 1955-65 was considered the "advisory phase" of the Vietnam war.

Source: Harry G. Summers Jr., Vietnam War Almanac. New York: Facts on File Press, 1985

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quote:
Originally posted by HollowMan, Filled with Cheese:
Where. In the name of all that is holy. Do people get this stuff?

Go ahead. Try to pretend that you're not a part of it. I know you are. I loaned you my pen at one of the meetings.

- P

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quote:
Originally posted by ParaDiddle:
quote:
Originally posted by HollowMan, Filled with Cheese:
Where. In the name of all that is holy. Do people get this stuff?

Go ahead. Try to pretend that you're not a part of it. I know you are. I loaned you my pen at one of the meetings.

- P

Ok, I confess, you got me. I'm the guy in the OP.

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quote:
Originally posted by snopes:
Comment: What do y'all know about this...

READ THIS! READ THIS! READ THIS! READ THIS! READ THIS! READ THIS!

KING ALFRED*
{ massive snip }

Fascinating! I have read dozens of kooky conspiracy theories but this one is new to me. According to this site, the King Alfred plan was invented by John A. Williams for his novel The Man Who Cried I Am.
quote:
Near the end of the novel, Max is trying to relay to a Malcolm X figure, Minister Q, the contents of a file discovered among Harry's papers, which outlines the King Alfred Plan, an FBI- and CIA-designed scheme to "terminate, once and for all, the Minority threat" and to consolidate the league of nations known as the "Alliance blanc," or White Alliance. In his afterword, Williams compares the King Alfred Plan, his own invention, to intelligence programs devised by J. Edgar Hoover in the 1960s to monitor the movements of black militants, which did not become public until much later. Harry is already a victim of the King Alfred Plan, and Max fears that he is about to become another.
I also found this Iowa Commission on Civil Rights report from 1970 that states the following:
quote:
Of a somewhat different nature, the executive director also widely publicized this summer that a document called "King Alfred" was a hoax, being fiction copied from a novel rather than a valid document that could panic minorities. The document related a purported secret scheme under which governmental agencies would, in the event of widespread racial disturbances, "terminate once and for all the minority threat to the whole American society."
quote:
Originally posted by Senior:
This was almost certainly written between 1955 and 1965. On January 1, 1956, there were 76 American advisors in Vietnam.

According to the site with the description of The Man Who Cried I Am the book is a fictionalized account of Richard Wright's life in Paris, which would put it in this time frame. Here's what the one of the reviews on Amazon says:
quote:
It's a portrait of the post-WWII-through-mid-sixties period as seen through the eyes of a black writer as he establishes a career as a novelist, journalist, and Presidential speechwriter in New York, Paris, Washington, D.C., and Lagos, Nigeria. The main character, Max Reddick, is shaped by anger, at the crux of which is indignation at the hypocrisy and hostility that black people and writers faced during this period. It's a historical novel which provides some insight into the social and political ferment of the sixties, and has an Afrocentric perspective that's somewhat reminiscent of Walter Mosley's work.
Brian

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Comment: I'm wondering whether or not you've ever looked
into the legitimacy of debunker James Randi's $1 million paranormal
challenge, especially whether or not his "contest rules" are on the
up-and-up. It's at: www.randi.org/research/index.html.
I submitted evidence (studies) stating that the medically-verifiable
PLACEBO EFFECT involves an element of FAITH HEALING (which he claims is
completely bogus and/or paranormal). He first said to "go away," then
responded that I should "read the rules." I then asked if he was going to
require that I be an MD and conduct tests using real drugs (which his
"rules" prohibit--they also prohibit using "past examples"), whereas he
emailed me telling me I was "BLOCKED from taking the challenge for not
reading the rules." (Challenge guidelines also allow for "rule waivers.")
Needless to say, I feel I've been screwed and am wondering if you could
look into this.

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Comment: Are you aware that more than 25 MILLION Veterans have been
branded with a secret computer coded number known as a SPN, SDN, or SPD
code ? Said code is located on the main employment reference document
known as the DD-214. Plaintiff's Exhibit # 19 is the infamous corporation
questionaire in which the major corporations admit to having and using the
codes against veterans. Employers use them, life insurance companies,
banks, and millions of veterans with an HONORABLE Discharge have a BAD
code number which they NO NOTHING ABOUT. I am the one who took litigation
to US Sup. Ct. about this, moreover, this is an ongoing fight, last time
reopened 2001, have discovered Gov't destroyed legal transcript submitted
to any Fed. Ct. Clerk, forged my signature upon a Gov't Form, opened FALSE
CLAIM with VA to character assassinate a litigant. This is branding human
beings for the purpose of systematic elimination. Say, isn't that the same
thing that happened in Nazi Germany ?? Have lots of proof, even
Congressional Records marked as EXHIBITS. Would be more than glad to
produce this material to you to post up. Big Brother is alive and there is
NO LIBERTY, NO JUSTICE.
Contact me if you believe
in Liberty.

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quote:
Are you aware that more than 25 MILLION Veterans have been
branded with a secret computer coded number known as a SPN, SDN, or SPD
code ?

It's okay... its only used in case they get lost or wander off.

~Psihala
(*at least that's what they told me at the pet store...)

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Contact me if you believe in Liberty.
And forward this to 10 people or you'll make the baby Jesus cry. And we'll know he's crying ... we've implanted a tear-detecting chip in his forehead.

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Comment: I have to belive you were forced to repeat the "Offical
Government Version" of the Pentagon and AA77. You are rewriting physics
and not reporting what you see. You are reporting what you have been told.
Get a spine!
It is a shame that your trusted site would sell out or shut up and not
tell it like it is.
I must now not use you a source.

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quote:
Originally posted by Psihala:
quote:
Are you aware that more than 25 MILLION Veterans have been
branded with a secret computer coded number known as a SPN, SDN, or SPD
code ?

It's okay... its only used in case they get lost or wander off.

~Psihala
(*at least that's what they told me at the pet store...)

Ah, they must have gotten this mixed up. It's more than 25 MILLION veterinarians have been branding with a secret computer coded number known as a SPN, SDN, or SPD code
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Just in case anyone was wondering, the DD Form 214 (Certificate of Release or Discharge from Active Duty) does have SPN/SPD codes. Individual codes can be translated by American War Library. The infamous SPD Handbook is classified "For Official Use Only" to keep it out of the hands of employers and other unauthorized people.

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Comment: I would like to comment on the bomb threat scare on the new york
city subway system. It has
been my expierience that republicans(please note lower case r)I am
personally aquainted with keep sending me bogus emails.(it is only my
expierience that democrats do send these rumours through email)These are
emails that I have always found on your website and that I keep sending
pages showing them that they have been duped.They keep sending these
emails because they seem to support their belief system.I personally am a
white southern male who married a northern hispanic lady from New
Jersey.Getting to the point though.Even though the email circulating about
the possible bomb was real,I must really say"so what".This was reported on
major news programs around the world.People who send these stories want to
be appear like they have the inside scoop.It seems most likely to me the
bomb threat was bogus to begin with.There is absolutely no way anyone can
discredit a statement like"there may be a bomb in the subway"It is never
newsworthy to say"there might not really be a bomb on the subway".I would
like to quote a reference that can easily be verified if one wishes
to.According to the World Almanac and book of Facts in the year 2001
2,416,425 people died in the United States.In 2002 2,447,864 people died
in the United States.In 2003 2,423,000 people died in United States.You
may have noticed that after September 11, 2005 that the death rate has
actually increased.Should we be afraid of terrorists?should we allow
terrorists bomb threats to succeed at slowing down our commerce,to deprive
us of our freedom?I think it is safe to say that every day may be our
last.Cancer kills more people every year than terrorists do.Although I am
no pacifist it does'nt make sense to me to send American people in to Iraq
and Afghanistan to kill and unfortunately die for an exercise in
futility.The terrorists of September 11 wanted a war.The arrogance,
ignorence, and fear of the American people have given the terrorist
everything they wanted.We are fighting a forest fire with gasoline.Once
again the United States is screwing for virginity.The lessons of viet Nam
have been forgotten.I am would like to make a few prophetic
statements.Having the benefit of history on my side,unlike Nostrodamas,I
predict that the millitary of the United States will recruit fewer and
fewer volunteers.A draft will be considered.The institution of the draft
will be a a great cause of division amongst the American people.The United
States will withdraw from Iraq and Afghanistan.Neither nation will be
free.The United States will always be vulnerable to terrorism.There is
nothing that can stop the inevitability of this.I am asking you please to
forward this email to everyone you know.

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