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B Hamilton
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In our newspaper this morning, there was an article about a Dialect Survey that a Harvard University Linguistics Professor was conducting. It is an online survey to map the differences in America's speech patterns.

It's very interesting! If you have some time (it's 122 multiple-choice questions and takes about 15-20 minutes to do), click on the link below and register to take the survey. It brought back memories of words that I had forgotten that I once used.

It asks you also to list the area of the country that influenced your speech patterns, not necessarily where you currently live.

http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~golder/dialect/index.html


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I took it. I'm pretty regional standard, evidentally. I especially like the parts about phrases common to different areas - "the devil's beating his wife" has always been the way I heard sunshine during a rainshow described. It was interesting to see the other options.

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77. What do you call the activity of driving around in circles in a car?
a) doing donuts
b) doing cookies
c) whipping shitties
d) other

"whipping shitties?" I've never heard of it, but that's what I'm going to start calling them now!

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That was pretty neat. I've never heard some of those expressions.

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It was interesting. But after living half of my life in New York and the other half in Kentucky, I'm not sure which has influenced my speech patterns more.

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That was interesting. I'm glad I'm alone here at work since I had to sit here and say some of the words out loud several times to figure out how I said them. I also ended up using the comments box a lot because there are quite a few terms I use interchangably, and also explaining a bit about what I call my grandparents.

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Very interesting, but quite surprising how little true regional variation there is left in the language. Some of the results were striking inluding words or expressions only used in New England or Western Pennsylvania.

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That was neat! My mom is from Connecticut, and my father was raised in Tennessee, I was raised in Florida with my step-mom who is from Buffalo, NY - and my redneck step-dad. I have a very.. eclectic (sp) vocabulary! My best friend in HS had just moved down from Wisconsin, then add in the italian grandmother and the irish paternal grandmother.. the american indian grandfather! It's all a good mix! *giggles* I'm a southern twang, ya'll saying, 'yankee' word using mutt!
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74. What do you call the little gray creature (that looks like an insect but is actually a crustacean) that rolls up into a ball when you touch it?
I have learned something new. My childhood friend, the roly-poly BUG is actually a roly-poly CRUSTACEAN. I never thought about it before... Well, there goes one "fact" I've carried around for over 40 years... 999,999 to go!

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Question: is there anyone else out there who calls the strip of grass between a sidewalk and the street a "devil's strip?" I was surprised that wasn't one of the options.
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That was fun.

Did you give them details about your origin other than where you're from? I felt I had to explain about how we'd moved all over when I was a kid, and where my mom's family was from, etc.

I'm not sure if they can identify what part of the South people are from. They didn't ask how many syllables in "pen". (pay-uhn)

And they didn't include any of the African-American variations, such as "peonsuhl" for pencil, or ar-uh for "R". As a matter of fact, I'd like to know more about the regional variations of the Black English Vernacular.

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There's just something about waking up with an:
* eye booger
* eye shit
* eye crunchie
* eye crusties
in the corner of your eye.

Those maps were interesting, though! *wastes hours looking through*

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74. What do you call the little gray creature (that looks like an insect but is actually a crustacean) that rolls up into a ball when you touch it?
I have learned something new. My childhood friend, the roly-poly BUG is actually a roly-poly CRUSTACEAN. I never thought about it before... Well, there goes one "fact" I've carried around for over 40 years... 999,999 to go!
Y'mean you played with pillbugs too? We used to make 'em run races, once the amusement value of watching them curl up in balls was exhausted.

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Ok, I have to know:

Who here says/would say any of the following?

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- I might could do that
- He used to nap on the couch, but he sprawls out in that new lounge chair anymore
- car boot sale (instead of yard sale or garage sale)
- peenie wallie (instead of firefly or lightning bug)
- supermarket trolley (instead of shopping cart)
- kitty wampus (instead of kitty-corner or diagonal)


Furthremore, what is a bear claw pastry? Is it yummy? (Can I have one?)

Does anyone else here refer to the eye stuff as "sleepy sand"?

I have no phrase for "What do you call it when a driver changes over one or more lanes way too quickly?". Who ever heard of a Chinese lane change or a Chinese fire drill?

And WTF is up with
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What do you call the game wherein the participants see who can throw a knife closest to the other person (or alternately, get a jackknife to stick into the ground or a piece of wood)?
Because I, for one, "have never heard of this 'game' and have no idea what it's called." Sounds pretty friggin' scary to me!

And, Bubba, how can you NOT have heard of a lawn? LOL!

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Originally posted by Alexina:
Ok, I have to know:

Who here says/would say any of the following?

- car boot sale (instead of yard sale or garage sale)

I don't, generally, except when I'm chatting with a British friend who is forever going on about going to boot sales... I have a tendency to automatically change my speech patterns to imitate whoever I'm talking to (which made the questions awfully hard to answer!)

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I have no phrase for "What do you call it when a driver changes over one or more lanes way too quickly?". Who ever heard of a Chinese lane change or a Chinese fire drill?
I don't have any phrase for it either, except "cutting across the lanes" [Razz]


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What do you call the game wherein the participants see who can throw a knife closest to the other person (or alternately, get a jackknife to stick into the ground or a piece of wood)?

I'm wondering: is this perhaps a Southern thing? I recall the scene in "Member of the Wedding" where Frankie throws a knife near Bernice and then brags about being the best knife thrower in town.

I guess it wouldn't be as scary if you're throwing the knife at a piece of wood (unless you happen to be the piece of wood...) [Eek!]

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quote:
Originally posted by Alexina:
Ok, I have to know:

Who here says/would say any of the following?

[QUOTE]
- I might could do that
- He used to nap on the couch, but he sprawls out in that new lounge chair anymore
- car boot sale (instead of yard sale or garage sale)
- peenie wallie (instead of firefly or lightning bug)
- supermarket trolley (instead of shopping cart)
- kitty wampus (instead of kitty-corner or diagonal)

My granpa used to say catty wampus, but he was rather a character. One of his favorite expressions was "Well, bald headed snakes!".
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Furthremore, what is a bear claw pastry? Is it yummy? (Can I have one?)
Its a squarish pasty with three slices (making it look like fingers or claws), with cinnamon and almond slices. And yeah, its yummy!

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I have no phrase for "What do you call it when a driver changes over one or more lanes way too quickly?". Who ever heard of a Chinese lane change or a Chinese fire drill?

Alexina

I never heard of those terms either. Never had a specific term, just used more generic terms like 'a stupid move' or...well the rest would be NFBSK.

I was surprised to find that some people pronounce the s in Texas as a z. Even more surprised to find that some of them were from Texas!

bl"put the J back in Tejas"t

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Oh, and Mumblety Peg as I learned (about) it, (I was never brave/dumb enough to play it), was holding your hand on a piece of wood or something, splay fingered and seeing how fast you could stick the knife between each finger in turn. Later I heard a version of throwing the knife down as close as possible to your foot. I guess it fits about any knife weilding version of chicken.
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Originally posted by Alexina:
Furthremore, what is a bear claw pastry? Is it yummy? (Can I have one?)

Its a squarish pasty with three slices (making it look like fingers or claws), with cinnamon and almond slices. And yeah, its yummy!
In our neck of the woods, a bear claw was a cinnamon long john (i.e., a long skinny donut) with almonds on top.

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Originally posted by Alexina:
Ok, I have to know:
I have no phrase for "What do you call it when a driver changes over one or more lanes way too quickly?". Who ever heard of a Chinese lane change or a Chinese fire drill?

I don't know what the lane change thing is called (illegal maneuver?) but it's definitely NOT a Chinese fire drill! A Chinese fire drill is where a car pulls up to a red light and everyone jumps out and runs around the car once or twice and then all get back into the car before the light turns green. It's a lot of fun when you're 16 years old.

I have heard one person say catty-wampus too, but I figured it was an individual thing, and not regional. I say catty-corner. I don't know why. Picked it up somewhar I reckon.

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I was surprised to find that some people pronounce the s in Texas as a z. Even more surprised to find that some of them were from Texas!

bl"put the J back in Tejas"t

I'm a native Texan and have never heard Texas pronounced any other way but with a "Z."

I say the last syllable just exactly like the word "is" (as in "Is that my car?") In the word "is" the s is pronounced like a "z."

Does anyone really say Tex-ass? Even if they said the word "as" it has a z sound at the end. Only ass has the s sound.

I say Tek/siz. I have also heard Teks/az but never Teks/ass.


Also agreed: Chinese firedrill is jumping out of the car and running around it.

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Agreed on the Chinese Fire Drill.

I've never heard a driver switching lanes too fast called anything other than a "NFBSKer" or a "Ma**hole" since there seem to be a lot of people like that in Massachusetts.

Kat"And I live in NJ!"hryn

Edited: I read the other posts about Texas and said it out loud a few times and realized I actually say "tecks-ess"

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Also agreed: Chinese firedrill is jumping out of the car and running around it.

Same here, and I even double checked with the rest of my family on that one. None of us had even heard of a Chinese Fire drill being anything else. (The funny thing is that both my husband agreed we'd call someone changing lanes really rapidly stupid.)

On on the pronunciation of Texas, I have always used an s sound at the end but my pronunciation is more like Teks-es. it sounds like I'm the odd one there.

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Well, let's see.
I pronounce the name of that there state as Tecks-uss.

A Chinese Fire Drill is indeed the silly thing you do with a car load of 16 year olds. It can also be used to describe any sort of manic running around in an out of exits. The Three Stooges or the Marx Brothers do a lot of Chinese Fire Drills. [Edit to add a definiton that fits my understanding of the term: According to the Dictionary of American Regional English, a Chinese fire drill is "a scene of great confusion; a chaotic situation." ]

A bear claw is filed with almond paste or a ground almond mixture and has sliced almonds on top. While hunting for pcitures, I foudn references to fruit fillings. That's new to the genre. The pastry is the same as Danish pastry--vey buttery. Not a good picture, but the best I could find--this is 4 bear claws  -

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I'm pretty sure I say tecks-uhs, except when I'm in my deep-south mode and pronounce it Tayx-us. It's definitely not a z at the end, though.

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I pronounce Texas more like Noemi does:

TEX-iss.

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Us har in TN pernouncer it Tayx-Uhs.

The rest of us, well, we pronounce it Teks-us.

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sory,still cleaning up my keyboard thinnking about a chinese fire drill performed while changing lanes at top speed on th highway...

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Its interesting how "bubbler" sticks to the Wisconsin border. Water fountain? Bah, thats a big thing in the park. [Smile]
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I'm afraid that as an Australian living in Hong Kong that by entering a NY postcode I might have thrown it out....

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Does anyone really say Tex-ass? Even if they said the word "as" it has a z sound at the end. Only ass has the s sound.

Even worse, I say "Tex-arse".

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- I might could do that
Yeah, I say things like that. It means just what it seems to mean - I may be able to do that, but I won't be suree until I've tried, OR I may have time to do that, but I'm not sure.

And evidentally I'm the only person in the world to ever play mumbly peg.

I'm from N. Florida, for what it's worth.

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Yeah, I say things like that. ...I'm from N. Florida, for what it's worth.
I never hear "might could", but I do hear "usta could" quite a bit. I don't use those forms though.

You're in T'hassee, right?

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I was surprised to find that some people pronounce the s in Texas as a z. Even more surprised to find that some of them were from Texas!

bl"put the J back in Tejas"t

I'm a native Texan and have never heard Texas pronounced any other way but with a "Z."

I say the last syllable just exactly like the word "is" (as in "Is that my car?") In the word "is" the s is pronounced like a "z."

Does anyone really say Tex-ass? Even if they said the word "as" it has a z sound at the end. Only ass has the s sound.

I say Tek/siz. I have also heard Teks/az but never Teks/ass.


Also agreed: Chinese firedrill is jumping out of the car and running around it.

Bev

Now I'm currious as to what part of Texas you're from. I grew up in Austin. BTW 92% of the respondents pronounce it with an s sound. I pronounce it Teck-ses.
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S&C: yep, right up here. "Florida with a southern accent" and all that.

"usedta could." I say that all the time.

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Its interesting how "bubbler" sticks to the Wisconsin border. Water fountain? Bah, thats a big thing in the park. [Smile]

Bubbler is in my vocab and I'm from the deepish south [Big Grin]

Of course that was learned from being friends with transplants from WI in highschool. Breaky for breakfast was another word I picked up.

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Listening to my lazy self, I realized I pronounce it Tex-ziz. It's that west Texas clinched jaw sound: keeps the sand out, don'tcha know?
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