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coigreach
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When I heard about the Royal streaker I got thinking about the Queen and extra-marital pensises (as you do).

When I was younger there were rumours that Prince Andrew was not Prince Phillip's son. The evidence? Well (i) Charles, Anne and Edward all look like sibs but Andrew looks nothing like, (ii) Phillip was away on an extended overseas trip over the period when Andrew must have been conceived and (iii) err.. that's it.

I found a reference to these matters here, can anyone else shed any light on them?

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plain-TALKing Yorkshire Woman
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there are a couple of errors in the article that was linked inthe lower part of the post,

one- Edward the 8th abdicated in 1936, not 1937. (IIRC)
and two- The Queen Mum (QM) had nothing to do with the abdication per se. She was only Q- Consort after her husband ascended the throne. She had a "feud" that lasted for donkey's years with the ex-king and his wife, as she resented her husband being pushed into the forefront, and having all the responsibility of being King over his head. QM was unshakeably convinced, to her dying day, in fact, that the stress of king-ship hastened her husband (George 5th) to an early grave.
IIRC, it was protocol about the rules/ laws over who a royal person in the UK could marry, particularly those with something of a chance of actually getting a sniff of the throne...
for example:-

A royal could not (And indeed still cannot) marry a catholic person, and be permitted to stay in the line of ascendency to the throne. (an example of this is Prince and Princess Michael of Kent. when Prince Michael married his catholic wife, he had to renounce his claim to the throne)

A divorcee was also (IIRC) forbidden. I am not sure how this now works, in regard to Charles and Cammilla. It's opened up a big can of worms. It may be that the barrier is to be lifted. (I mean, Princess Anne was a divorcee, and is married to a divorce', too if I have my facts right) someone else may be able to put us in the picture over that, I'm sure.

I think it was the fact that Wallis Simpson was not just divorced, but twice divorced, and romantically linked to Edward, which placed her beyond the pale.

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coigreach
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OK but what about Andrew's parentage, have you heard the rumour I'm referring too?
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While I have not heard any rumors, per se, I have often wondered why Andrew looks so unlike his brothers. He certainly is the most handsome of the three.

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plain-TALKing Yorkshire Woman
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quote:
Originally posted by coigreach:
OK but what about Andrew's parentage, have you heard the rumour I'm referring too?

Yes, Coig', I'd heard whispers about it, here and there, but none I could pin down with any certainty.

I sort of agree that he is the odd-one-out, amongst them all. The one who actually has some halfway decent looks, even!(LOL)

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Inkpad
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On the same topic, the Royal Protection Squad received a warning earlier this year that a UK Sunday newspaper was attempting to obtain a lock of Prince Harry's hair.

The newspaper was allegedly attempting to undertake DNA analysis on the hair to confirm some rumours that his biological father is not Prince Charles, but Major James Hewitt, with whom Diana is alleged to have had an affair.

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quote:
posted by Inkpad:

The newspaper was allegedly attempting to undertake DNA analysis on the hair to confirm some rumours that his biological father is not Prince Charles, but Major James Hewitt, with whom Diana is alleged to have had an affair.

This is a classic tortuous and convoluted friend-of-a-friend-of-a-friend yarn and therefore completely without foundation, but my mum's friend's husband's cousin (yes really!) is some very high-up army type who heard from someone who worked very high-up for the royals, that this story is completely true: Harry is not Charles' son - it's very well known among Britain's bigwigs, apparently.

Now, if that's not conclusive proof, then tell me what is! [Big Grin]

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Originally posted by LizzyBean, Swedish Meatball:
While I have not heard any rumors, per se, I have often wondered why Andrew looks so unlike his brothers. He certainly is the most handsome of the three.

Well apparently "Queen Mother" liked to fool around, but that was better covered up. Prince Edward is strongly rumoured to be as queer as "a box of rocks" (gay ones). A lot of dirt has been dished on Aunty Margaret too (Princess Margaret "dirt") including controversial heterosexual and (one alleged lesbian) affairs.

However I think Andrew bears some resemblence to Edward. Andrew is definitely - and this coming from a republican - the only one of the siblings with his feet truly on the ground in my view...

Now Diana's kids... neither of them looks very like Prince Charles to me. Too handsome. The older one, whatever his name is, is getting a lot of promotion and got sent to St Andrews University (known locally as "Little England") to try and save the Union. She had relationships with Hewitt (the "Squidgy Tapes") and Dodi Fayed... both of these were a little too late I think, but I suspect they may not have been her first.

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In reference to the link -
I seriously doubt that the Britney Spears link up will come to anything. I see her as a flash in the pan, and I doubt she could carry off a Grace Kelly. Whatever Kelly may have done in her time, she was a beautiful woman in a way that Spears isn't, and she could wear posh frocks and look elegant in them. It's got a touch of the Koo Stark about it... (Andrew had an affair with this lady. Two problems - soft porn past & not aristocratic enough...)

An Amazon book on the subject Ladies of the Bedchamber: The Role of the Royal Mistress - the webpage also lists " the Duke of Kent (his homosexual affair with Noel Coward)" - that's a new one on me.

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Harry looks like Prince Philip. (see my pretty munchkin?) Latest news has it that Hewitt has taken out a court order on a production company to stop them from airing an interview with him in which he states Diana was a good NFBSK. (I'm not following the story but it was apparently discussed on Larry King tonight)

Andrew has the look of Philip about him too IMHO (I met him June 13th, very exciting... also saw Edward the 25th ) I can't think of the name of the man said to be the father. He was in the horsey set and recently died.

Kitty Kelly's book says the QM had assisted reproduction to have Elizabeth and Margaret. It also says Elizabeth was a shagging machine right after marriage. (in the watching circles I travel in we call this book Kitty's Litter)

Anne remarried in the Church of Scotland since she couldn't in the Chruch of England because of the divorce issue. There have been rumours of Zara's parentage as well.

In the Hollywood hook-ups Gwyneth has been linked with Prince Albert of Monaco, Prince Nikolas of Greece and Prince Felipe of Spain.

Kendra (may cause coma if talking about royalty)(edit to add more)

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Harry resembles whichever one of Diana's sisters it was who had red hair in her youth - the likeness is startling.
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coigreach
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I think the main reason William and Harry don't resemble Charles all that closely is that they both look so much like their mother, they're clearly Spencers.
The point is - is Andrew a Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Mountbatten?

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Latest news has it that Hewitt has taken out a court order on a production company to stop them from airing an interview with him in which he states Diana was a good NFBSK.
I think this may relate to a documentary shown on UK terrestrial television last night.

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The Spider in the Ointment
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Anne remarried in the Church of Scotland since she couldn't in the Chruch of England because of the divorce issue.

A little ironic that the Church of England was founded by a guy who the Vatican wouldn't allow a divorce, and now they don't allow divorces themselves (at least for English monarchs...)
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Speaking of Prince Andrew, a few years back he was at a Naval Banquet on a base in my town. At that time I don't know what his rank was but it was common knowledge that he never made the grade anyway.
My father was also at the banquet, set in a marquee and the Prince put a lighted indoorfirework under one of his superiors hats. When the man in question lifted his hat the firework wizzed all over the place and there was a bit of a panic.
Everyone was disgusted at the behaviour of such a "senior officer" ie a Prince elevated beyond is status and they all hoped he would be up for Court Martial.
But all he got was a slap in the wrist for an act of gross stupidity that nearly blinded someone.

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quote:
Originally posted by B Chiswick:
But all he got was a slap in the wrist for an act of gross stupidity that nearly blinded someone.

He's only in there as a token royal.
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