well, supposedly. they've said they were coming here before and never showed up. But apparently a soldier from Jacksonville was killed in Afghanistan, so Phelps and his gang are coming down here to protest the funeral.
ON VETERAN'S DAY, of all days.
Luckily there's a law that makes protesting at military funerals illegal, so hopefully Phelps will be arrested here. We've also got the Patriot Guard (those awesome bikers, I love them) and even the firefighters coming out to make sure the family has some support.
Phelps ticks me off.
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Ya know, I really got used to him when I lived in Topeka. And he served as a lesson in tolerance for me with my daughter.
That said, it has been so refreshingly wonderful to live 6 1/2 hours away from the bugger now.
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In the past he's protested productions of "The Laramie Project" (guess his portrayal in the show is a little too accurate for his tastes) -- I almost wish he'd show up at our production this week so I could give him a piece of my mind in person. I wonder if he's ever considered this passage while he's screaming at bereaved families:
James 1:26-27 If anyone considers himself religious and yet does not keep a tight rein on his tongue, he deceives himself and his religion is worthless. Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.
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He came to my town once to protest the funeral of a gay man whose name I've forgotten.
This was during my violence days so it was a good thing I had to work. I would have done something I would have regretted.
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Great quote musicgeek - I saved it somewhere so I can refer to it again if I ever need it (with my inlaws, that is a distinct possibility).
The good thing, Kai, is that so many people are now reacting in a productive way to his garbage. Not that I personally would have necessarily minded ComicBookGeeks more violent responses, but it just doesn't usually produce a very good overall social response.
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Edited because I misunderstood what I quoted- but I'm leaving the website link.
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quote:Originally posted by Brandi: Best response ever.
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quote:You'd better head out You'd better not stay If you're a liberal lesbian or gay Freddie Phelps is coming to town!
I would go so far as to extend that advice to anyone with a brain and/or a soul.
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You know, I'm really shocked they haven't been arrested more than they have for harrassment, starting riots and slander.
The good news is, since they don't marry outside their family, their bloodline won't last forever.
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In one of the more confusing moments of my life, I saw the good Reverend protesting at a Wynton Marsalis concert. It must have been a slow night for him if that was the gayest thing he could find to protest.
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I can verify that Westboro Baptist Church was a no-show on Saturday.
It could have been the thousand or more bikers, military folk, cops, firefighters and supporters that were at the funeral...
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quote:Originally posted by Jonny T: You'd better head out You'd better not stay If you're a liberal lesbian or gay Freddie Phelps is coming to town!
(sorry, it was the first thing to spring to mind from the topic...)
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Freddie Phelps is coming out of the closet.
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Luckily, Phelps is a no-show more often than not. He threatens to come here, I show up to protest his protest, and I just end up having pancakes with like-minded do-gooders.
There's a biography of Freddy Phelps that's been languishing in legal limbo (tied up by, um, some lawyer, gee, can I remember the name? Could it be ...FRED PHELPS!), that I reccommend. If you have a strong stomach, that is.
It seems that Phelps has sinned a LOT in his life. I've never read a more sickening tale of child and spousal abuse. It's eye-opening in some ways. He's a bad, bad man. Anyway, here's the link to an online copy of the biography, it's called Addicted To Hate.
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They are going to protest at the funeral of a HS girl who died in a bus accident. The bus went over the railing on an elevated section of I-565 and fell 30 ft. to the ground. There were ~30 kids on the bus and (so far) 4 have died.
Huntsville folks are still in shock about the accident, all we need is Fred & Co. to make things even better.
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I don't understand - I mean, I don't understand his normal protests, but how can he even connect this girl's death to his twisted little agenda?
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Obviously that girl was a faggot. Or, at least, a fag enabler. Why else would righteous Fred protest her death?
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quote:It just seems to me at some point, somehow we could appeal to their sense of respect and dignity, and ask them not to do this at funerals" Davis [a local pastor] said. "The family just doesn't deserve it."
Respect? Dignity? It's great to see someone who still believes in humanity, but he's talking about Phelps and his disgusting band of cultists.
Shirley Phelps-Roper is on the news report (also in Doug's link), proclaiming everyone deserves to die due to what America has become. I assuming they picked this funeral due to the publicity they would receive. I'm not sure "exploitation" is a strong enough term.
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Simple. America as a nation has not stamped out fags, therefore they support fags. Therefore God is punishing America for supporting fags, so any unfortunate accident is really God's wrath falling on America. simple, tidy, and logical. Oh... and bullNFBSK
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ALso, the more outrageous his protests, the more publicity he is likely to get, and the more chance he can make money out of having his rights infringed or being hit.
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Guess they've moved on to folks they don't figure the Patriot Guard will show up to protect.
Nonny
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Well, last time they threatened to protest a traumatised community who were mourning the loss of innocent life they get free air time out of the deal. Why wouldn't you try that play again?
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2. Go to a thrift store. Buy the fruitiest apparel you can find in your sizes.
3. Make up a bunch of pro-gay protest signs - the funnier, the better.
4. On the day of the protest, don thee now your gay apparel ( ), gather up your protest signs, and head off to the protest site.
It's a bit hackneyed, but it works every time.
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Perhaps if you created a trail of obviously gay objects ( I don't know... use your imagination) leading from his proposed protest site to some more distant location you could lure him away from the funeral and have at him with your gay apparel and protest signs in peace.
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First off, let me say that I recognize completely that Phelps' concept of a deity is not one shared by anyone but a very tiny group of very screwed-up people.
However, it still just boggles my mind. Here (according to their view) is a being that apparently is so angered by the tolerance of certain sex acts between consenting adults, that He reacts by murdering thousands of people around the world -- from school kids on a bus, to space shuttle astronauts, to coal miners, Amish students, and the victims of the 9/11 attacks, Hurricane Katrina, and the great Tsunami -- presumably as some kind of warning we're supposed to intepret, despite the completely random nature of the victims.
Assume, for a moment, you belive in this kind of a Supreme Being -- one who not only damns sinners to an eternity of torment in Hell, but shortens their lives because they happen to live in countries that actually restrain themselves from stoning gay people to death.
And you worship this guy?!?!?!?!?
I said it in another thread before being chowed here, but it bears repeating: nothing could possibly turn me to Satan more quickly and firmly than belief in the existence of Phelps' version of God.
quote:Originally posted by BringTheNoise: Shirley Phelps-Roper is on the news report (also in Doug's link), proclaiming everyone deserves to die due to what America has become.
This is what I don't understand about them. If American is so inherently evil tht everyone in it deserves to die, W(hy)TF are theay still there? Doesn't that mean they are steeped in evil now as well? And thus deserve to die?
(Well, we live in hope. But I didn't say that out loud *ahem*)
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quote:Originally posted by Mosherette: This is what I don't understand about them. If American is so inherently evil tht everyone in it deserves to die, W(hy)TF are theay still there?
My guess is that they view themselves as some sort of Lot in Gomorrah. You know, the few righteous in the town of sinners.
Self-important tripe, IOW.
quote: Doesn't that mean they are steeped in evil now as well? And thus deserve to die?
If they're ever struck down by lightning, I'll start believing in God again!
Or, at least Mother Nature.
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quote:Originally posted by BringTheNoise: Shirley Phelps-Roper is on the news report (also in Doug's link), proclaiming everyone deserves to die due to what America has become.
This is what I don't understand about them. If American is so inherently evil tht everyone in it deserves to die, W(hy)TF are theay still there? Doesn't that mean they are steeped in evil now as well? And thus deserve to die?
(Well, we live in hope. But I didn't say that out loud *ahem*)
I'm against racism. If my area becomes massively racist, should I do something to stop it - or give up and leave?
I am against homophobia. If my area implements anti-gay legislation, should I do something to stop it - or give up and leave?
I don't agree with Phelps, but the "if you don't like it, just leave" attitude always irritates me.
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You've completely misunderstood my point Jonny (I knew someone would). I'm not saying they should up and leave: I want to know what's so bloody special about them that they're not tainted with the same poison that the rest of America is.
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Jonny, not only is Phelps not doing anything constructive to change the situation he believes exists, he doesn't believe it's possible or desirable to change that situation. So "love it or leave it" isn't really applicable in the situation. He isn't choosing not to "love it or leave it;" he's appointed himself a Biblical prophet.
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I don't know... use your imagination) leading from his proposed protest site to some more distant location you could lure him away from the funeral and have at him with your gay apparel and protest signs in peace.
