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Barbara R.
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In the late 1980s I read in a book that Billy Graham once said, "If God doesn't destroy the USA, he owes an apology to Sodom and Gomorrah." In another version he says that if God doesn't merely punish the USA. This quote attributed to Graham was supposed to lament our society downward moral trend.

I have posited this question to another message board a few years ago. One reply said that it wasn't Billy who said it but rather it was his wife who said something similar. Another respondent said that Billy DID say it, but he was unable to state when and where Graham made this statement.

Any answers?

Barbara R.

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Jay Temple
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I heard it attributed to Jerry Falwell. (It sounds more Falwell-esque to me.)

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musicgeek
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Didn't Jay Leno say something like this?

Ah, here it is:

Leno's Sodom & Gomorrah line

Interestingly, no mention of Graham on the page. A quick Google search of "graham sodom gomorrah" turned up this article from 1969:

The Sickness of Sodom

but no mention of the quote.

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educatedindian
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I think there was a film wtih Eric Bogosian, where his character says the line. I recall his character played a McCarthy like senator.
http://www.thelurker.com/tv/witchhunt.htm

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Elwood
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Bob Larson uttered the phrase almost constantly on his radio show back in the day. It would be bizarre for him to come back from a commercial break and not go on about God owing Sodom an apology, as if God could ever owe anyone an apology at all.

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Elkhound
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I have heard it attributed to Billy Sunday; it sounds more like something he would say. (What he'd say if he were alive today, I don't like to think.)

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rocksong
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Googling for the exact phase "an apology to sodom and gomorrah" shows the phrase attributed to all sorts of people, including Jerry Falwell, Ruth Graham and Billy Graham. But no firm dates, which makes the quotes untracable.

I agree with others above, that while Falwell could easily have said it, it doesn't sound like something Billy Graham (or his wife) would say. Graham tries to avoid controversial issues. Without a cite, I would be inclined to disbelieve it was from Graham.

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Barbara R.
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This information has been helpful to me. The TIME magazine quote from Billy Graham in 1969 may have been the source of the rumor. Although it DOES sound more like something that either Jerry Falwell, Bob Larson, or David Wilkerson might say.

You see, if everyone in a nation were to be destroyed, and such destruction were God's punishment, then God would be punishing the innocent with the guilty! That would make him unjust! Even in the Genesis account of Sodom and Gomorrah, Abraham begs God not to destroy the innocent with the guilty. Abraham then bargains with the Almighty not to destroy those cities if a small number of righteous people are found. He starts with something like 50 righteous people and finally goes down to 5. God promises not to destroy the cities if there are as little as 5 righteous persons. As it turned out, there were only 4 righteous people--Lot, Abraham's nephew and his wife and two daughters.

Barbara R.

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Looking for four is a bit hopeful isn't it?

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