quote:Originally posted by PsychoAlice: I knwo this is an old thread but I wanted to give my 2 cents...
The cartoon in which someone spoke of about Donald Duck and a pentagram is the cartoon "Donald in Mathmagic land"
Honey, I already mentioned that on the first page of this thread. (Towards the bottom of the page. I gave a link that said "Try this".) No big deal, just lettin' ya know!
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i can add to this walt disney was reputedly in a fraternity called Yale skull and bones in this frat they supposedly did satanic things guess who else is a memeber George W Bush Sr and George w Bush Jr and John Kerry the plot thickens the founders of Kelogg Post and pillsbury are also in Skull and Bones supposedly in the frat theres a pentagram..........hmm i think the theory on donald in mathland with the pentagram might be correct....it may not be blatant however it seems the signs are there..... this urban legend jsut became conspiracy
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It's not Disney's fault. It's who makes them that Disney sponsors. As you know, people write, produce, and direct them by themselves, but they have to find a movie sponsorship like Disney.
Sometimes the producers add some easter eggs in it's films too without the sponsor's approval. Such as Disney presented the original Rescuers and didn't know some woman was F-ing around in a background as an easter egg and they blocked that out in a new edit.
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Same goes for "The Little Mermaid" with the phallic situation. The "Disgrunted" in a hurry artist didn't realise that drawing so fast the designs that he drew a schlong till they got thousands of hate mail against that poster.
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quote:Originally posted by darkmark90: They're pulling your leg. The only "satanic" kind of film Disney made was a segment of FANTASIA, featuring Chernobog...think it was called "The Sacred and the Profane", or something. ....
Not quite. In 1929, Disney produced a short animated film called "Hell's Bells". But I think it was just a cartoon, not an indication of Disney's religious impulses.
Do you mean 'not quite' as in this wasn't in Fantasia or as in it was in Fantasia and was not quite satanic?
Neither. I meant "Fantasia is not quite the only 'satanic' kind of a film Disney made." "Hell's Bells" was another, and "Pluto's Judgement Day" was yet another.
ETA: I placed "satanic" in quotation marks. I do not believe that Walt Disney was satanic. My point is only that devilish characters appear in these three films (and in others, for that matter--the shoulder angel/shoulder devil duo is in a whole bunch of Disney flicks, including The Emperor's New Groove, for instance. I could do a little dissertation on how that trope goes back to medieval morality plays, but I'll spare you.)
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IIRC the claim that Walt Disney was a Satanist is made in by Anton La Vey in The Satanic Bible.
If IDRC, then it's in Blanche Barton's book, The Church of Satan, as they're the only two titles I've got on the subject and it's definitely in one of them.
The latter also gives a list of recommended satanic movies which includes Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory and The Snowman, though I forget if either of those were Disney productions.
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quote:Originally posted by LadyLockeout: I don't know about Disney being a satanist, but this has all reminded me of something I watched when I was a kid.
I think it involved Daffy Duck. I seem to remember him, anyway. Something about his mind being cluttered and they were going to teach him how to organize it and use it. I want to say that it was an educational sort of cartoon, but I'm really fuzzy on it. Anyway, it showed a series of shapes imposed on a deep blue background with stars, and I believe it was the voice of Disney himself saying things like "This is a rectangle. A rectangle has four sides." etc.
One of them I remember very clearly was a pentagram, with the voice saying "This is a pentagram. It is a five sided star" or something to that effect. My husband swears he remembers this, and so do a couple friends of mine, but I've never been able to find any reference to it anywhere. Does anyone here have any ideas?
Sorry for the hijack.
I remember that one, too. Sucks how all the older cartoons are no longer shown on TV.
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quote:Originally posted by LadyLockeout: I don't know about Disney being a satanist, but this has all reminded me of something I watched when I was a kid.
I think it involved Daffy Duck. I seem to remember him, anyway. Something about his mind being cluttered and they were going to teach him how to organize it and use it. I want to say that it was an educational sort of cartoon, but I'm really fuzzy on it. Anyway, it showed a series of shapes imposed on a deep blue background with stars, and I believe it was the voice of Disney himself saying things like "This is a rectangle. A rectangle has four sides." etc.
One of them I remember very clearly was a pentagram, with the voice saying "This is a pentagram. It is a five sided star" or something to that effect. My husband swears he remembers this, and so do a couple friends of mine, but I've never been able to find any reference to it anywhere. Does anyone here have any ideas?
Sorry for the hijack.
I remember that one, too. Sucks how all the older cartoons are no longer shown on TV.
Daffy is a Warner Bros Cartoon. Not Disney at all.
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quote:Originally posted by Black River Falls: IIRC the claim that Walt Disney was a Satanist is made in by Anton La Vey in The Satanic Bible.
If IDRC, then it's in Blanche Barton's book, The Church of Satan, as they're the only two titles I've got on the subject and it's definitely in one of them.
Find it and give us a cite OK?
Disney was not a: Nazi, Satanist, pedophile, or frozen.
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quote:Originally posted by Garth: Disney was not a: Nazi, Satanist, pedophile, or frozen.
Or a 33rd Degree Scottish Rite Mason. Or any Mason at all, of any rite.
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quote:Originally posted by Casey, sliding through the snow:
quote:Originally posted by LadyLockeout: I don't know about Disney being a satanist, but this has all reminded me of something I watched when I was a kid.
I think it involved Daffy Duck. I seem to remember him, anyway. Something about his mind being cluttered and they were going to teach him how to organize it and use it. I want to say that it was an educational sort of cartoon, but I'm really fuzzy on it. Anyway, it showed a series of shapes imposed on a deep blue background with stars, and I believe it was the voice of Disney himself saying things like "This is a rectangle. A rectangle has four sides." etc.
One of them I remember very clearly was a pentagram, with the voice saying "This is a pentagram. It is a five sided star" or something to that effect. My husband swears he remembers this, and so do a couple friends of mine, but I've never been able to find any reference to it anywhere. Does anyone here have any ideas?
Sorry for the hijack.
I remember that one, too. Sucks how all the older cartoons are no longer shown on TV.
Daffy is a Warner Bros Cartoon. Not Disney at all.
Sigh. Honeys, honeys, honeys: Please read the whole thread before commenting. I covered this on the first page. Then someone brought it up like it was new on the second page, and I had to Chow them to the first page. Now I have to do this a third time on the third page. I'm trying not to be a pain in the butt about it, but c'mon.
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quote:Originally posted by Casey, sliding through the snow:
quote:Originally posted by LadyLockeout: I don't know about Disney being a satanist, but this has all reminded me of something I watched when I was a kid.
I think it involved Daffy Duck. I seem to remember him, anyway. Something about his mind being cluttered and they were going to teach him how to organize it and use it. I want to say that it was an educational sort of cartoon, but I'm really fuzzy on it. Anyway, it showed a series of shapes imposed on a deep blue background with stars, and I believe it was the voice of Disney himself saying things like "This is a rectangle. A rectangle has four sides." etc.
One of them I remember very clearly was a pentagram, with the voice saying "This is a pentagram. It is a five sided star" or something to that effect. My husband swears he remembers this, and so do a couple friends of mine, but I've never been able to find any reference to it anywhere. Does anyone here have any ideas?
Sorry for the hijack.
I remember that one, too. Sucks how all the older cartoons are no longer shown on TV.
Daffy is a Warner Bros Cartoon. Not Disney at all.
Sigh. Honeys, honeys, honeys: Please read the whole thread before commenting. I covered this on the first page. Then someone brought it up like it was new on the second page, and I had to Chow them to the first page. Now I have to do this a third time on the third page. I'm trying not to be a pain in the butt about it, but c'mon.
I have read the enitre thread acually, i just dont like to chow within a thread so i reiterated the same post. If thats the correct thing to do though, i will remember that...
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I say he was the moment he decided to rip off Terry Gilliam's animation with the cartoon It's Tough To Be A Bird. (The picture on the link doesn't do it justice to how much they ripped him off.)
P.S. Yes, I'm sure everyone on the planet is quite aware of who Terry Gilliam is at this point. The link for the bio by John Cleese always gives me the giggles though, so I thought I'd share it.
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quote:Originally posted by Garth: Disney was not a: Nazi, Satanist, pedophile, or frozen.
But ... I'm working on an article for the Straight Dope right now. There is evidence that Disney did attend meetings of the German American Bund along with his lawyer Gunther Lessing. It doesn't make him a Nazi per se, but there might have been a little interest at the beginning. Most possibly it was Disney's trying to find some way of distributing his movies in Germany and making contacts with the people in charge.
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quote:Originally posted by TrishDaDish: I say he was the moment he decided to rip off Terry Gilliam's animation with the cartoon It's Tough To Be A Bird. (The picture on the link doesn't do it justice to how much they ripped him off.)
I wouldn't exactly call it ripped off. The short was directed by Ward Kimball who was one of Disney's most eccentric animators and was always looking for new styles to work with. It was also released in 1969, roughly about the same time that MPFC started, which means it would have had to be in production at least a year before that.
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Not to get completely off topic, but Gilliam was doing that style of animation before Python, altho by this article, it's kind of vague what year and when he started.
quote: Gilliam worked at 'Help!' until the magazine wore down and then moved to California before heading off to London with his then-girlfriend in 1967...Cleese passed on to him the name of Humphrey Barclay, a television producer of a new children's program called 'Do Not Adjust Your Set'...Barclay, as it turns out, was an amateur cartoonist and when he discovered Gilliam's drawing skills, he had him create some short animated pieces for the show. These black and white animations show a distinct Gilliam sensibility in the content but the style and delivery were still very much works in progress. While the films may have been 'unpolished' they most definitely were impactful:
'…yesterday, the show included a new feature, some really clever animated cartoons done by Terry Gilliam. These cartoons were as good as you would get at any hour on television. The equal of cinema cartoons.' - A review of 'Do Not Adjust Your set' by Stanley Reynolds for The Times, April 8, 1969.
I now return you to "Is Walt Disney a Satanist?", already in progress....
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I dunno about Walt being a Satanist, but he sure has made a lot of cartoons about kids who, usually after their parents meet some grizzly end, are raised by wolves or whatever. More likely the original poster's source is confusing Walt with Rupert Murdoch, the embodiment of evil if ever one existed! heh heh heh.
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Part of a seemingly endless tin-foil-hat rant not only involving a satanic Disney, but the CIA , illuminati, and mind controlled sex slave CIA agent Shirley MacLaine.
Kind of entertaining in a goofball kind of way.
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Comment: Um, yeah, I heard that Walt Disney was a Satanist. I also heard about many other bad things about Disney, and not just those movies you have listed. I heard that the songs from the Little Mermaid have some bad messages or some type of curse, I do not know what kind. And that Pocahontas has sexual messages, Robin Hood has diabolical messages, bad things about Power Rangers and Ninja Turtles.
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quote:Originally posted by snopes: I heard that the songs from the Little Mermaid have some bad messages or some type of curse, I do not know what kind.
This might explain Julia Kitten's behavior. Silly me, I thought she was just being four. But now I know: Walt Disney is reaching out from beyond the grave (the freezer?) to bring my child to Satan. What a relief.
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I dunno...possibly the curse was...I dunno...said by the Sea Witch?!
Pocahontas sexual messages. Umm...does the "how high does a Sycamore grow" line mean something else, if you have a dirty mind?
quote:Robin Hood has diabolical messages, bad things about Power Rangers and Ninja Turtles
Ok, you lost me on this one...what the fudge does Robin Hood (Or Disney, for that matter) have to do with Power Rangers and Ninja Turtles?! I'm trying my darndest, but I don't recall Little John saying, "Hey, Rob! Them turtles are crowdin' the forest! Let's steal their thunder!" or something like that and then going Tarintino on them.
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Disney currently owns the "Power Rangers". Originaly it was owned by Fox, but then Fox sold the rights to ABC, which is a subsiderary of Disney. I remember seeing Power Ranger action figures the last time that I visited "the Disney store". Some people believe that the different power ranger series are pagan, besides being violent, and do not allow there kids to watch it. On a similar note "Captain Planet" has as a charector the Roman earth goddess Gaia. But of course that series is owned by Ted Turner, not Disney.
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Comment: I just heard a rumor today that Walt Disney was a warlock. I have researched this myself and haven't come up with anything but I was wondering if you could find out if this is truely fact or fiction.
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The private club in Disneyland that Walt specifically designed is Club 33. If you divide 33 by 666, you get .0495 and change. Therefore, Walt was only .0495 parts Satanist, which makes him pretty clean as we ordinary sinners go.
Brad "Macheath and I saw the door of Club 33, but they didn't let us in" from Georgia
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quote:Walt Disney - World famous cartoonist, Walt was a DeMolay (a member of a fraternal organization for young men sponsored by Freemasonry). He did not, however, join the Masonic organization. Rumors circulate continuously indicating that he was a Mason and some of them have proven quite tantalizing including those relating to his brother and the many Masons he hired as cartoonists. No one, however, has been able to produce the name of a lodge to which Walt might have belonged and surely if he were a member, that information would have come to notice long before these many years after his death. Despite a burning desire on the part of some to list him as a member of the Craft, there is simply no provable evidence that he was.
This is cut and pasted from a VERY informative page on people who have been alleged to have been Freemasons - but aren't.
Particularly cool site! I now have it bookmarked...
BUT, back to the OP: Since WD was in DeMolay, obviously "we" got to him early and sent his soul to Satan... and that colored his entire body of work.
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DeMolay? As in Jacques De Molay? So now Walt's a Templar and Illuminatus!
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