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Comment: Hi, I have a two rumors that I have heard about... First, I go to a Catholic college, where every dorm room and class room have a cross haning over the door. However, a couple of dorm rooms are missing there cross' and you can see were they were before. It does not bother me much but my friends live in a room where their cross is missing... and be blunt, it freaks them out: cause we have heard that in a room where the cross is missing, it means that someone has ben murdered or committed suicide in the room... do you know if this is a false statement or not?
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Oh, my sister lived in a really old house (200+ years) and one of the bedrooms had the marks for a lock on the OUTSIDE of the door. That always freaked me out. Why or who were the locking in????
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quote:Oh, my sister lived in a really old house (200+ years) and one of the bedrooms had the marks for a lock on the OUTSIDE of the door. That always freaked me out. Why or who were the locking in????
I've seen people do that on rooms they don't use. Granted, it was people who had an unhealthy fear of burglars, but still.
It may also be that it's not the original place of the door. It may orignally have been in another door opening to another room.
Or thay had valuables in there that they sometimes wanted to protect from guests or kids.
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I dunno, there were locks on the outside of Harry's door on Privet Drive...
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quote:Originally posted by Franny: Oh, my sister lived in a really old house (200+ years) and one of the bedrooms had the marks for a lock on the OUTSIDE of the door. That always freaked me out. Why or who were the locking in????
My SIL had a lock on the outside of her bedroom door to keep her brother (my DH) from going in and short-sheeting her bed (among other things) when they were teenagers.
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quote:Originally posted by Franny: Oh, my sister lived in a really old house (200+ years) and one of the bedrooms had the marks for a lock on the OUTSIDE of the door. That always freaked me out. Why or who were the locking in????
Maybe the house had been used as a rooming house at some point. Rooms rented to boarders might have locks on the outside for the same reason that apartments do.
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I made myself unclear - they lock, that left the impression, was a strap type lock that could be secured with a padlock or a pin (I assume). I have never seen one of those on an apartment door. Have you Lainie (I don't mean that in a snarky way) it would just be something new to me. Thanks for the suggestion, though, any thing to make that place less spooky is appreciated.
PS. It was in Charlottesville, VA.
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Franny, I have been told about rental places that did have that kind of lock on the outside of the door, although these were shacks rather than rooms. If the renter didn't pay, the landlord padlocked the door shut, complete with all the renter's stuff inside. When the renter paid up, the padlock came back off.
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quote:Originally posted by Franny: I made myself unclear - they lock, that left the impression, was a strap type lock that could be secured with a padlock or a pin (I assume). I have never seen one of those on an apartment door. Have you Lainie (I don't mean that in a snarky way) it would just be something new to me. Thanks for the suggestion, though, any thing to make that place less spooky is appreciated.
PS. It was in Charlottesville, VA.
Nope, never seen that. The rooming house I lived in had locks in the doorknob, I believe; or maybe deadbolts, but not the strap kind.
Perhaps it was a hydroponic gardening room?
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My bedroom had a lock on the door... Of course, My bedroom was a converted porch, and also had a window into the living room... Now that I think about it though, my bathroom has an outside lock... I think we just reused a doorknob that had a built in lock.
If it's an old house it could be that the door wouldn't stay closed very well unless it was locked. I've known several old houses where the door wouldn't latch just by closing it, and it would swing open.
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The room might have been damaged at some point and locked to keep people from wandering in and injuring themselves.
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When we moved into our first apartment, in a very scuzzy building, the largest bedroom (which is not saying much) had the doorknob turned around so that it locked on the outside. We were told the by the neighbors that the previous tenants had an "unmanagable" boy that they frequently locked into the bedroom, until they were reported to Children's Aid, and the child was aprehended. Gave me shivers. It was the first thing we changed.
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Several houses I lived in as a student had hasps on the outside of each bedroom door, so you can padlock your room when you left the house. This is, presumably, for when you live with people you don't fully know or trust.
One room in the house was left unrented and the landlord had it padlocked - he kept cleaning supplies and tools in it. Those of us renting the house all knew each other and didn't need to lock our individual rooms.
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quote:Originally posted by lynnejanet: When we moved into our first apartment, in a very scuzzy building, the largest bedroom (which is not saying much) had the doorknob turned around so that it locked on the outside. We were told the by the neighbors that the previous tenants had an "unmanagable" boy that they frequently locked into the bedroom, until they were reported to Children's Aid, and the child was aprehended. Gave me shivers. It was the first thing we changed.
The doorknob locks I've seen have a tapered side to allow a locked door to be closed. Wouldn't a reversed latch put the taper on the wrong side and allow the door to be pushed open, locked or not? Though I suppose it's the striker plate on the doorjamb that actually depresses the latch, so once the latch is extended into the doorjamb, maybe the taper doesn't matter so much. Never mind, I think I just answered my own question.
As to the original post, it doesn't seem that likely that a missing cross equals untimely demise. The symbol of the cross has long been used to memorialize the dearly departed, after all. It wouldn't make much sense to remove a cross under those circumstances. If I had to hazard a guess, I'd bet they were "liberated".
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quote:If I had to hazard a guess, I'd bet they were "liberated".
Sounds like a good theory to me. Or perhaps the missing crosses had been "defiled" by students with grafitti, or became broken and they decided not to replace them because brand new crosses might stand out too much next to older, timeworn ones.
I attended a church where some rows had crosses on the pews and some didn't. It was just their way of specifying where the offering plate would start. Then again, I'm Protestant, and the cross is just a shape to me, devoid of any spiritual power.
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quote:Originally posted by Franny: I made myself unclear - they lock, that left the impression, was a strap type lock that could be secured with a padlock or a pin (I assume). I have never seen one of those on an apartment door. Have you Lainie (I don't mean that in a snarky way) it would just be something new to me.
My mate's sister has a lock on her bedroom door - as in, a proper padlock. Presumably to keep unwanted people out! Rare, maybe, but not completely unheard of.
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The washer/dryer in my apartment is in a closet in the bathroom. The laundry door's handle has a "privacy" lock on it, on the outside. I can only assume it's to keep the socks from escaping...
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quote:Originally posted by Arts Myth: The washer/dryer in my apartment is in a closet in the bathroom. The laundry door's handle has a "privacy" lock on it, on the outside. I can only assume it's to keep the socks from escaping...
So... does it work? Because if it does, I'm off to the hardware store right now!
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Ohhhhhh! Well why didn't you say so Virginians are known for their cruel child-locking practises
(P.S. if you're from Virginia, it was a joke. Go unlock your children from their rooms and let them read it too. They might laugh if they still have the ability)
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I wonder why people have such a hard time believing the obvious-yet-mundane explanation of things. Like "someone stole the crosses over the years". No, it really must have been a murder/suicide!
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I used to babysit a 2 or 3 yr old that I had to lock in his bedroom at night. After his parents had to rush him to the emergency room a couple of times for eatig Ajax and other cleaning supplies, the doctor told it was either a lock or a coffin. In the parents defence, they had tried cabinet locks and putting stuff up high, but this kid was wiley and could get almost anywhere.
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quote:Originally posted by EeyoreCorbie: I used to babysit a 2 or 3 yr old that I had to lock in his bedroom at night. After his parents had to rush him to the emergency room a couple of times for eatig Ajax and other cleaning supplies, the doctor told it was either a lock or a coffin. In the parents defence, they had tried cabinet locks and putting stuff up high, but this kid was wiley and could get almost anywhere.
Uhm, maybe they could have locked the cleaning supplies into a room, instead of the kid into a room?
I'm not buying that there was nowhere in their home to lock up the supplies that the kid couldn't get to.
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A friend of mine they had to lock the little brother in his room at night because he sleep walked. After a trip to emergency when he sleepfell down the stairs and broke his arm they started locking him in.
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Rehcsif, It wasn't just the cleaning supplies. He got into anything and everything. He wasn't bad, just very curious, as in "let's see what happens when I put things in the VCR". He would do this at like 3-4 am. The Ajax incedent is just what sent him to the ER. His parents didn't like doing it and it was only at the doc's great insistence that they did. He was at the age were ability comes before comprehension.
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My ex husband had a padlock on his bedroom door to keep his sisters out of his stash while he was at work.
As far as the OP, that wouldn't make sense to take the crosses out of rooms where people had died, those are the very rooms that you would want the cross to be in, to bless the room.
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I don't get why the school didn't just replace crosses that were stolen (missing, whatever) from dorm rooms.
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I would have thought a Catholic school woul dhave had a crucifix instead of a cross.
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