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XCOP
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I was wondering if anyone knew if the series of pics on the link below is real. I have searched all over looking......no luck. Some say they were called the "natural Born Losers" and true. Others disagree.
Any info would be appriciated

PLEASE NOTE.......There is NUDITY with the GRAPHIC
CONTENT. IF YOU ARE OFFENDED..or a MINOR.....DONT CLICK ON IT.

PS. These pics, real or not, ARE NOT for the squeamish....Beware.

http://www.flashback.org/snuff/

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Alka Swift
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OMG? NFBSK Could you have told us the guy was nude? Put a warning you idiot! Sorry, that last comment was not needed, but I HATE when morons put links and DO NOT give WANT us a warning tell us what ages! I just so happens I did not WANT to see that, and I am not SUPPOSE to see it. So thanks for planting a picture in my mind that I don't want there!

[flame] [flame] [flame] [flame]

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Lanston Fox
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quote:
Originally posted by Alka Swift:
OMG? NFBSK Could you have told us the guy was nude? Put a warning you idiot! Sorry, that last comment was not needed, but I HATE when morons put links and DO NOT give WANT us a warning tell us what ages! I just so happens I did not WANT to see that, and I am not SUPPOSE to see it. So thanks for planting a picture in my mind that I don't want there!

[flame] [flame] [flame] [flame]

Just currious, the pictures are labled "Gruesome Murder Pics" which is an acceptable picture, but a man's private parts are a picture you did not want in your mind? Poor men... our privates are more disturbing than Gruesome Murder pictures... [Big Grin]

Pictures not for the squeamish, as labled... and anyway, ANY picture labled "Snuff" is not something you want to open normaly.

Edited to stay on topic: Other than the body discoloring from picture to picture I don't see any photoshop evedence... And it does not look like a movie setup at all.

So I would say they look rather real... now to do some research....

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Locnar
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Sadly I believe those are actual photos of a crime being commited. I have seen the same photos other places as well as on one of those dead people type videos. Glad they got caught.
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Alka Swift
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*shakes Lanston Fox* I thought it was just a bloody gorry picture! NOT A NAKED DEAD MAN! *grumbles* [fish]
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Oh my god, I can't believe people are that sick. Yuck...makes me fear for my life somehow.

I agree with the dead male nudity message. I wouldn't have clicked! If it said "hot male nudity", I would have clicked...Oops, did I just say that?

Dark"still, people are nuts"Dan

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abby 68
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That's definitely has to be one of the most disgusting things I've seen of one human being doing to another. Kind of reminds me of the dismemberant scene in "donnie brasco"
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Yes quite disturbing...people with to much time on their hands, to much hatred in their hearts, and not enough money for some good psycho therapy. Where did you get this from? I really can't believe that they put this stuff on the internet were just anyone can get to it.
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XCOP
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Apology to all those I offened....Perhaps I should have posted there was nudity........

Wasnt thinking. Guess I figured The mutilation would keep the kids out. Possibly if the young ones asked their parents if they "could see"
the content just from the title I used...They would have been denied in the first place.

Will try to change it.

D

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Alka Swift
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Please do check you mail Xcop.
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Alka Swift
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What is it? I ONLY SAW THE FIRST PICTURE AND XED OUT. I don't want to see nudity, but I would like to know what the heck happened...I mean...you're all like, "OMG!" So someone PLEASE tell me... [Frown] [Frown] [Frown]
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Astra
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Alka Swift, GROW UP.

The thread said the photos were graphic. To verbally abuse XCOP for posting them was completely out of line. I am also disgusted that you don't seem to be bothered by the fact that the pictures are of dead bodies, but by the fact that, oh my god, there is male nudity. "Graphic" can mean a lot of things, nudity is one of those.

You comment about XCOP needing to "check his mail" leads me to believe that you have emailed him. I hope for your sake you were a bit more polite than in your posts, or you can most likely kiss your login here goodbye. That kind of crap can easily be construed as harassment.

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XCOP
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Thanks Assssssstra.

I did recieve an e-mail & it was polite.

I will watch what I post in the future, and If you want...I will Delete the thread.
Just wanted to find the truth, Fact or Fiction

Doug

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I think its on rotten.com with names and dates & says its real

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Originally posted by XCOP:
Thanks Assssssstra.

I did recieve an e-mail & it was polite.

I will watch what I post in the future, and If you want...I will Delete the thread.
Just wanted to find the truth, Fact or Fiction

Doug


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DarkDan
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Well rotten can be wrong...but it just amazes me how many wackos there are...

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Lanston Fox
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quote:
Originally posted by XCOP:
Thanks Assssssstra.

I did recieve an e-mail & it was polite.

I will watch what I post in the future, and If you want...I will Delete the thread.
Just wanted to find the truth, Fact or Fiction

Doug

You did NOT post anything out of whack Xcop so don't let it get to you, personaly as I said before I'm more disturbed that someone would be perfectly okay with a gory murder scene but be "impacted" by a penis.

Had you not posted a warning that the pictures were graphic in nature I would be the first to caution you about our younger viewers. Anyone that is going to be impacted by a penis should not be viewing graphic crime scenes.

I am personaly hurt that my sexual organs are rated lower than a decapitated body! [Big Grin]

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Alka Swift
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Dearie me Assssssstra, someone is in a bad mood in aren't we? Forgive me for being a minor and not wanting to see a nude man being separated into parts by two sick women. I assumed it was perhaps just someone shot dead or perhaps something under that category, no nudity involved, only a little hole in their side. Perhaps you are the person that needs to 'grow up' to understand some people don't want to see porn, and are perhaps quite curious but that stops at a point. We don’t want our minds poisoned, for we are the future. You seem like a fairly decent person-so I am not going to attack with aggression-but, do not become a counselor dear.



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quote:
Originally posted by XCOP:
Thanks Assssssstra.

I did recieve an e-mail & it was polite.

I will watch what I post in the future, and If you want...I will Delete the thread.
Just wanted to find the truth, Fact or Fiction

Doug

XCop, your post was more than adequately labeled and posted with the intention of verifying authenticity - no apologies are necessary. You're a newcomer, but you seem to have caught on to the board rules very quickly. Welcome, BTW. [Big Grin]

I have seen several pics discussed on this or the Horrors board that are just as graphic or disturbing. I would hate for snopesters to start self-censoring their posts out of fear or concern of offending others. As long as you warn people of graphic content and post to the appropriate board, I don't see any reason why you should consider "watching what you post" in the future.

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Astra
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I am not in a bad mood at all. I simply think you were quite rude to both XCOP and Lanston Fox.

XCOP said that the pictures were graphic and gruesome. The fact that you are more worried about seeing nudity rather than gore disturbs me. Most people here have long since realized that clicking on links they are unsure of may result in disturbing images.

Also, I just received your PM. I read your post, PMing it to me was unnecessary. And your email. Your condescending tone is not appreciated.

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quote:
Originally posted by Alka Swift:
Dearie me Assssssstra, someone is in a bad mood in aren't we? Forgive me for being a minor and not wanting to see a nude man being seprated into parts by 2 sick women. I assumed it was perhaps just a guy shot dead or perhaps something under that catorgory. Perhaps you are the person that needs to 'grow up' to understand some kids don't want to see porn.

If you are a minor, I don't think you have any business looking at graphic pictures of dead bodies period - whether thet be naked, clothed, or anywhere in between. You seem to be under the impression that material is inappropriate for kids only if it is sexual in nature, but that violent imagery doesn't need to be held to the same standard. I tend to disagree rather strongly with that philosophy, myself.

And if you think that those pictures are what is considered porn, it's obvious that you have no frame of refernence for pornography. Especially if they are real, they are crime scene photos - not sexual images taken with the intent to arouse and tiltillate.

Laura "I must be in a bad mood too, huh?" 2

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quote:
Originally posted by Alka Swift:
Dearie me Assssssstra, someone is in a bad mood in aren't we? Forgive me for being a minor and not wanting to see a nude man being separated into parts by two sick women. I assumed it was perhaps just someone shot dead or perhaps something under that category, no nudity involved, only a little hole in their side. Perhaps you are the person that needs to 'grow up' to understand some people don't want to see porn, and are perhaps quite curious but that stops at a point. We don’t want our minds poisoned, for we are the future. You seem like a fairly decent person-so I am not going to attack with aggression-but, do not become a counselor dear.



-Alka The Raven’s Sorrow

i'm sorry, but you really don't seem to be mature enough to handle any of this. you have to be responsible for your actions - you were warned, and no one forced you to click on the link. maybe, from now on, you should ask someone over the age of 18 to check these things out for you, so your mind won't be poisoned. the world is a big, bad place, and you're lucky that you were warned at all.

personally, i'm 21, and i'm not clicking on the link. am i curious? sure. but i also read the warning and realized that it wasn't something i wanted to see. you have to make these decisions for yourself to be an adult. otherwise, i suggest you tell your parents to find software that will keep you out of sites like this. or, you should learn to exercise caution, and stop blaming other people when you don't listen to their warnings. just because it wasn't in huge red letters doesn't mean it wasn't adequate.

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Alka Swift...I'm trying not to attack you, but didn't you make the same type of mistake on your second post?

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I know this is the horrors section, but maybe you should put a warning at the beginning of the post to let us know that it's about cruelty to animals. Some people are HIGHLY sensitive to that stuff. (And no wonder, it's...horrifying)
While I'm a little bit younger than you, and I understand that some people do not want to see porn (although my opinion may differ... [Wink] ), the focus on that picture should be the chopped up guy (yuck), and not the penises and the bush.

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The only thing I can see wrong with XCOP's post is it may have fit better in the Horror or NFBSK section, since the photos are a little scary.

We must remember, this is XCOP's first post, and he is learning the rules of the board. I think the title was pretty obvious that the pictures were, er, graphic. If you're offended by freaky things, nudity or porno, or whatever, you probably shouldn't click the link.

Alka, you went way over the line.
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Put a warning you idiot!
That was one of the rudest coments I have ever read on this board. If you can't at least be civil to another poster, you shouldn't post.

Take a chill pill.

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quote:
Originally posted by XCOP:
Apology to all those I offened....Perhaps I should have posted there was nudity........

Wasnt thinking. Guess I figured The mutilation would keep the kids out. Possibly if the young ones asked their parents if they "could see"
the content just from the title I used...They would have been denied in the first place.

Will try to change it.

D

There actually was no real need to change it, it took my the past 5 minutes of looking at the "enlarged photos" to see who was nude. & I still had to look verrrrry closely. [Big Grin]

I never would've looked if it hadn't of been mentioned by someone..... [fish]

I thought it was marked very well when I first read the post, gruesome murder pics & snuff in the URL, can't get much plainer than that

just my 2 cents.

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XCOP
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WOW.........Just to think what I started..LOL & my first post (whew)

Thanks for the.....um.......Back up...hehe
All of you ! Alka is the only one who owes me the dozen donuts hehe.

[lol] As for the idiot comment.........well lets just say. Ive been called far worse, believe me on that one [Smile]

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To stay on topic:

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Originally posted by Lanston Fox:
Edited to stay on topic: Other than the body discoloring from picture to picture I don't see any photoshop evedence... And it does not look like a movie setup at all.

The changes in discoloration are consistent with the time that this would have been done over time. As the body loses oxygen, it turns cyanotic (blue).
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XCOP
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LIVIDITY is the word for it.
Seen many a body with that. When the body dies, The blood will "pool" in the lowest part of the body(gravity), causing the Purple color. What I dont understand is the lack of blood on the floor...Seems hardly any. I have found not ONE shread of evidence or any names to prove that these are real. Still, my curiosity prevails.

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Found a reference!
From an article about the Museum of Death:
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The museum ended with a bang and, happily, it wasn't a shotgun blast to my head. A series of pictures illustrated a unique tale: Several years ago, a woman enlisted her boyfriend to murder her husband. Afterwards, the killers thought it would be fun to "get naked" and photograph themselves while dismembering the body. One picture showed the woman (wearing only feathered hair parted in the middle) smiling at the camera gaily while sawing off her husband's head. In another photo, the boyfriend was sitting next to the dismembered body. I couldn't understand why the man was grinning like an idiot, because he'd just committed a deadly sin and had a minuscule penis.


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dammit...
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Astra
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This page (warning, more pictures) gives names and dates
According to this one, the woman is 21-year-old Jeannine Lynn Clark and her accomplice is James Edward Glover. Glover is said to have killed Clark's boyfriend, IDed only as "Bobby" on July 14, 1982, in Detroit, MI.

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Astra
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Woohoo! I have verification!

According to the Detroit Free Press archives, James Glover shot Robert Beckowitz and then had three days of bizarre... umm... fun... with the body, and Jeannine Clark. She claimed she was forced to participate, the jury didn't buy it.

Go to www.freep.com and search on "glover clark murder" to read the article segments for yourselves.

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Good work Asssstra!
btw...has anyone welcomed XCOP to the boards yet? If not, let me be the first.

Still kinda wondering why the woman in the photos reminds me of my second fiancee [Eek!]

mo "psycho killer qu'est-ce que c'est?" ruti

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quote:
Originally posted by Locnar:
Sadly I believe those are actual photos of a crime being commited. I have seen the same photos other places as well as on one of those dead people type videos. Glad they got caught.

I have seen this to on a couple of different sites, going back several years

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XCOP
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Thanks Assssssstra!
I guess I can finally put that to rest [Smile]

I did notice quite a bit of blood in the new pics.

I wont sleep now.......hehe.....Just kidding

Great work.


Thanks also for the welcome.


Doug

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There's nothing I can really add to this discussion; all the salient points have already been covered (oh, the irony). I'm left to comment on the veracity of the pictures, given the evidence. Yes, they do appear to be of a real murder case, but I'm not too pleased to have seen them. Gruesome, indeed.
Either case, I welcome XCOP to the forum, and wish a healthy stay. [Smile] As for Alka Swift, you've been warned. You're being rather rude to other members.

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