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psoreasis
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Question: If you could live forever, would you and why?

Answer: I would not live forever, because we should not live forever,
because if we were supposed to live forever, then we would live forever,
but we cannot live forever, which is why I would not live forever.

-Miss Alabama in the 1994 Miss Universe contest

Is this true??

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Illuminati-atrix
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I remember hearing that awhile back but I am not sure if it was a real quote or not.

Going by your post though I would say that it was not an actual quote just cause of the fact that whatever you quoted got one "major" part of it wrong. Miss Alabama doesn't compete in the Miss Universe pageant, Miss USA does. (Although this wouldn't be the first time a book or magazine has gotten a detail wrong).

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LizzyJingleBells
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I'd have to say it's fake, because the only sites I can find reference to it, are joke sites.

Kinda like the Mariah Carey quote.

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brick
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Originally posted by Tommygungirl:
Miss Alabama doesn't compete in the Miss Universe pageant, Miss USA does.

Nor could Miss USA ever have been Miss Alabama. Miss Alabama would have competed for the crown of Miss America, while Miss Alabama USA would have been entered in the Miss USA pageant.

Gotta keep up with this stuff. [Big Grin]

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Illuminati-atrix
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quote:
Originally posted by brick:
quote:
Originally posted by Tommygungirl:
Miss Alabama doesn't compete in the Miss Universe pageant, Miss USA does.

Nor could Miss USA ever have been Miss Alabama. Miss Alabama would have competed for the crown of Miss America, while Miss Alabama USA would have been entered in the Miss USA pageant.

Gotta keep up with this stuff. [Big Grin]

This is also true!! [lol]
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DarkDan
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Look here for a discussion.

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OK, I hope I have this right. Miss Alabama 1994 was Heather Whitestone, I believe. Correct me if I am wrong. As most Alabamians (like me) know, Heather Whitestone is profoundly deaf. Therefore, she wouldn't know what she is saying is bad grammar (or whatever). Also, she became Miss America that year. To foot corn, you should at least give her credit, whether you knew those facts or not. You are the ditz!
Maybe it's true.

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Dan the Seeker
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Correct me if I am wrong. As most Alabamians (like me) know, Heather Whitestone is profoundly deaf. Therefore, she wouldn't know what she is saying is bad grammar (or whatever).
Er, what? What does being deaf have to do with proper grammar? Word pronounciation, sure, but grammar?

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DarkDan
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quote:
Originally posted by Dan the Seeker:
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Correct me if I am wrong. As most Alabamians (like me) know, Heather Whitestone is profoundly deaf. Therefore, she wouldn't know what she is saying is bad grammar (or whatever).
Er, what? What does being deaf have to do with proper grammar? Word pronounciation, sure, but grammar?

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My uncle is mostly deaf. He became death at a young age. He has below average grammer.

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brick
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In any event, there's nothing wrong with the quotation's grammar. It's simply an inane response.

But the question is equally inane. Could they ask a question that doesn't require Churchillian wit to avoid looking like an idiot?

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StarlandVocalBand
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Originally posted by Dan the Seeker:
Er, what? What does being deaf have to do with proper grammar? Word pronounciation, sure, but grammar?

English is a second language to most deaf people in the US; the grammar of American Sign Language is quite different.

That being said, there's nothing wrong with the grammar of that answer, anyway. It sounds like someone nervous trying to think on her feet.

An edited version--"I would not choose to live forever because, to me, it violates the natural order of things, in which there is no room for immortality."

Not a bad answer to an idiotic question. I actually think the original answer is kind of poetic, anyway.

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abbubmah
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quote:
Originally posted by StarlandVocalBand:
English is a second language to most deaf people in the US; the grammar of American Sign Language is quite different.

I think Dan's point was that if one can read, one can understand proper grammer...

ham " [lol] " bubba

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StarlandVocalBand
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Originally posted by hambubba, fresh and shiny jobseeker:
I think Dan's point was that if one can read, one can understand proper grammer...

It's a lot easier to read a second language than to generate perfectly grammatical statements when speaking a second language.

Oh, and--

GrammAr! GrammAr! GrammAr!
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quote:
Originally posted by DarkDan:
OK, I hope I have this right. Miss Alabama 1994 was Heather Whitestone, I believe. Correct me if I am wrong. As most Alabamians (like me) know, Heather Whitestone is profoundly deaf.

Was profoundly deaf. She recently got cochlear implants because she was afraid one of her children might cry out for help and she wouldn't be able to hear it.
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quote:
Originally posted by StarlandVocalBand:
quote:
Originally posted by hambubba, fresh and shiny jobseeker:
I think Dan's point was that if one can read, one can understand proper grammer...

It's a lot easier to read a second language than to generate perfectly grammatical statements when speaking a second language.

Oh, and--

GrammAr! GrammAr! GrammAr!
[fish]

Agreed. I have a cousin who has been deaf from birth. Her e-mails, while not incomprehensible, seem to be based on ASL grammer & not spoken English grammar. You have to adjust your brain to 'speak' like her. Think of anyone for whom English is a second language. It looks good but something about it just isn't quite right.


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Amateur Sleuth
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After making my above post, I remembered a young deaf girl I met several years ago. I can't sign very well, so we wrote notes back and forth.

I asked her if she knew another deaf girl I knew, and she answered "Yes, she was my classmate last two years ago."

So it's entirely possible for an otherwise intelligent deaf person to use incorrect grammar. Like the others said, spoken English is a second language to them.

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brick
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quote:
Originally posted by StarlandVocalBand:
An edited version--"I would not choose to live forever because, to me, it violates the natural order of things, in which there is no room for immortality."

Hey, that's pretty good. Complete B.S., but good. [Wink]
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