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Isaac
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Find out where you are on the Political Compass.

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Economic Left/Right: -4.25
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -6.36

I'm in the same box as Gandhi himself (libertarian left), probably because I "strongly disagree" with the "eye for an eye" philosophy... Lucky me!

Isaac "it wouldn't leave everyone blind, it would just leave everyone with one eye" 3159

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Gwenfritz
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Originally posted by Isaac3159:
Find out where you are on the Political Compass.

quote:
Economic Left/Right: -4.25
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -6.36

I'm in the same box as Gandhi himself (libertarian left), probably because I "strongly disagree" with the "eye for an eye" philosophy... Lucky me!

Isaac "it wouldn't leave everyone blind, it would just leave everyone with one eye" 3159

Interesting--I'm in almost the same place.
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Economic Left/Right: -5.12
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -4.97

Some of those questions were kind of hard to answer. I wish they had a box for "I don't understand what you're talking about".

Gwen"don't know much about economics"fritz

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A lot of the questions are badly phrased. A lot of them could be parsed depending on circumstances. A lot of them would be more accurately split into two questions.

I consistently end up near the center.
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Economic Left/Right: -0.12
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -2.77



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Davros
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Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -4.25
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -4.92

i was almost all no Strongly disagree's untill
page 5 then it was allmost all Strongly disagree

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Economic Left/Right: 4.12
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -6.15

which is probably the general area I would have positioned myself, however I (as usual with this type of exercise), found many of the questions much to starkly phrased.

No one chooses their country of birth, so it's absurd to be proud of it.
This is a nonsense question. Sure, it's absurd to be proud of it merely because your are born there, but perfectly fine to be proud of it for other reasons. Did they want a "merely because of..." condition?

Many personal fortunes are made by people who simply manipulate money and contribute nothing to their society.
How does manipulating money contribute nothing to a society? Any money spent goes TO somebody. It this supports at least that person, if not an entire chain of manufacturing or service provision (plus the manufacturers of the products used by the service.)

Those who are able to work and do not should not expect to eat.
Which people? Poor people? People retired and living on savings or inheritance? People too shy to ask for charity?

No broadcasting institutions should receive public funding.
Is public funding redistributed "tax dollars", or me voluntarily ringing up NPR during a pledge drive?

Pornography, depicting consenting adults, should be legal for the adult population.
I believe "Pornography" should be legal for the entire population, without arbitrary and discriminatory age limits on its purchase or viewing -- so, do I agree strongly or disagree strongly here?

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Jason Threadslayer
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Economic Left/Right: 4.88
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -1.64

A lot less economically libertarian than I thought I would be.

My favourite political quiz is "The World's Smallest Political Quiz": http://www.self-gov.org/quiz.html. And this one has a "Maybe" in case you're not sure!

I got a 100 on personal self-government and a 90 on economic self-government on that quiz.

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rainbowmonk
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This was an interesting quiz, though I do agree that some of the statements were strange, especially "No one chooses their country of birth, so it's absurd to be proud of it." Most people aren't proud of the country of their birth (if they are at all) simply because they were born there. My results were:

Economic Left/Right: -3.00
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -7.85

That's probably correct, though I expected to be closer to the right on economics, but I knew I'd be pretty close to the "Libertarian" bottom, seeing as I am a Libertarian. Which is what the "World's Smallest Political Quiz" told me too.

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rainbowmonk
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Originally posted by Jason13:

I got a 100 on personal self-government and a 90 on economic self-government on that quiz.

That's the score I got, I was wondering, did you answer "M" (presumably, "Maybe") on the minimum wage question as well? I simply didn't understand what it meant so I just left on "M". I mean "Minimum wage laws cause unemployment. Repeal them." is kind of a strange statement. Plus, I don't really know much about minimum wage laws other than the obvious, that there's a minimum wage that states say employees must be paid. Oh, and that's it's something like $5.15 here, which seems pretty chintzy.
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hmm... I'm not so definite [Smile]

Economic Left/Right: -3.25
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -0.41

As for the other one, I scored 70% on both.

So I'm left-leaning [didn't see that one] & somewhat libertarian. Well, one of my major beefs with a lot of lawsuits lately is a fundamental lack of self-control. I believe people should take responsibility for their own actions, and be aware of the actions of others. Suing Macdonalds for making you [worse, your kids] fat is blatant stupidity, but will probably be end in good settlements for the plaintiffs. Road-rage et al are simply an excuse to let go & hurt someone. If I'm fat, and old enough to shove food in my own mouth, it's my fault [almost always].
ahem. Sorry - should control that [Wink]

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Crackrzz
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I think we all got something different. Here's mine:

Economic Left/Right: -4.38
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -3.64

Libertarian Left. Interesting. Whee.

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Zachary Fizz
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Economic left/right: 9.00
Authoritarian/libertarian: -3.18

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Cato
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quote:
Originally posted by Isaac3159:
I'm in the same box as Gandhi himself (libertarian left), probably because I "strongly disagree" with the "eye for an eye" philosophy... Lucky me!

I have no claim on biblical scholarship here, so I might have this wrong, but a Jewish friend once told me that the "eye for an eye" thing isn't as harsh as it sounds -- she says it was intended to mean "Make the punishment fit the crime" -- ie, don't kill someone because they stole a loaf of bread, or chop off their leg because they stepped on your lawn...

And I'm a Libertarian Lefty too -- right smack next to Ghandi! Yeah!!

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Cato
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I forgot to post my scores -- here they are:

Economic Left/Right: -5.25
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -4.87

I'm actually surprised that I came out so far to the left economically -- I thought I was more middle of the road than that. I think it was all those corporation questions... but then, I think that corporate globalisation is ultimately anti-capitalist so I probably have a different perspective on that than what they imagine...

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Moose
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Well, I'd assume that the statements that are open to interpretation are meant to be interpreted. It's part of the process.

Like anybody's going to be surprised, but I drew left/libertarian in nearly equal measure. I apparently shifted south a great deal since the last time I took this quiz, where I was far more moderate in the authority department.

I may well be compensating for the current climate.

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Cato
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This just struck me... I think my views are pretty middle of the road -- not particularly lefty libertarian at all... and, it may be just that I don't speak to a lot of Sun readers (and in fact, maybe it is as simples as that) -- but most people I speak to seem to be in the same general spectrum (hence my observation that I'm pretty middle of the road)

so, my question is, why do the majority of our politicians, even the seemingly left of centre ones, end up in the right authoritarian quadrant?

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Mr. Furious
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quote:
Originally posted by Cato:
This just struck me... I think my views are pretty middle of the road -- not particularly lefty libertarian at all...

See, that's the rub. I'd say that most people feel that way (I said most, Pogue! [Smile] ) I know I do, and most of my friends do as well, even the ones who I feel lean pretty significantly toward one side or another. I think it stems from our subconscions belief that the way we feel on these issues is "sensible," and therefore they must be in the middle.

Oh, my results:

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Economic Left/Right: 1.12
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -0.92

I thought I'd be more skewed to the right and to the Libertarian side, to be honest.

[Edited to add:

I got a 60%/60% Centrist on the other one.]

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IndieQueen2
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Here are my scores:

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Economic Left/Right: -6.25
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -6.62

I'm not too surprised.
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Isaac
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Originally posted by Cato:
quote:
Originally posted by Isaac3159:
I'm in the same box as Gandhi himself (libertarian left), probably because I "strongly disagree" with the "eye for an eye" philosophy... Lucky me!

I have no claim on biblical scholarship here, so I might have this wrong, but a Jewish friend once told me that the "eye for an eye" thing isn't as harsh as it sounds -- she says it was intended to mean "Make the punishment fit the crime" -- ie, don't kill someone because they stole a loaf of bread, or chop off their leg because they stepped on your lawn...
Well, okay, but I was just observing that the G-man and me seem to have the same opinion on the "eye for an eye" philosophy, since, if I remember correctly, it was Gandhi that first said "an eye for an eye would just leave everyone blind," and when that statement came up in the survey, I "strongly disagreed" with it, just as Gandhi did.

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Cato
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Originally posted by Cato:
This just struck me... I think my views are pretty middle of the road -- not particularly lefty libertarian at all...

See, that's the rub. I'd say that most people feel that way (I said most, Pogue! [Smile] ) I know I do, and most of my friends do as well, even the ones who I feel lean pretty significantly toward one side or another. I think it stems from our subconscions belief that the way we feel on these issues is "sensible," and therefore they must be in the middle.


No, not at all. I think my ideas are middle of the road because they don't diverge wildly from the opinions of the majority of my friends and colleagues, or from the majority of things I read in the newspaper (granted, I do read the Guardian and the Independent [Wink] ) -- which in itself I guess should be a worry, as it seems to suggest a lack of original thinking on my part. Of course, I'd always think my thoughts were sensible [Wink] -- but I wouldn't dub them middle of the road simply for being sensible. Sensible = boring = universal is not a static equation [Smile]

What I meant was, if say middle of the road would be where those axes meet (and where I would have placed myself, at least economically -- I'll admit to being more of a lefty where social issues are concerned [Wink] ), why do we (at least in the UK) seem to elect politicians who are much further to the right than we are? Can a Labour politician really end up so far in the right-wing authoritarian camp as Tony Blair did according to this test? And yet, he wasn't electable until he took a relative lurch to the right.

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Anthony
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Economic Left/Right: 2.88
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -1.23

About where I expected, the center right I guess.

And in Brooklyn, I'm still considered a radical right winger (and here too I guess!)

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Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -2.00
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -2.41

I don't Strongly Agree with anything!

Overall about right, though.

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Mr. Furious
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quote:
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Of course, I'd always think my thoughts were sensible [Wink] -- but I wouldn't dub them middle of the road simply for being sensible. Sensible = boring = universal is not a static equation [Smile]

Let me rephrase. I'd say that most (again, most) people like to consider themselves to have reasonable, sensible feelings on these sorts of issues, and therefore wouldn't consider themselves to be right-wing or left-wing, especially in the perjorative sense of those terms. Therefore, it's a natural tendency to judge someone's right-wing/left-wing status from their own perspective, as opposed from a purely objective viewpoint.

Of course, having a purely objective viewpoint would require that the varying degrees of liberalism/conservatism be concretely defined, and that's certainly not something I want to tackle. It would appear that this test has attempted to do that.

As I've mentioned in other threads, I believe that the same thing happens with perception of bias in news coverage. A left-winger is going to think that the media is biased toward the conservatives, and a right-winger is going to keep shaking his/her head at the liberal media.

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What goes on in a private bedroom between consenting adults is no business of the state.
I'm outraged.

What do these guys have against sex in the kitchen?!

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Kilrati
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I got
Economic Left/Right: 5.00
Authoritarian/Libertarian: 1.85

Who is this Michael Portillo(he got about the same score I did)?

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Economic Left/Right: -0.25
Authoritarian/Libertarian: 2.15

I got pretty close to the middle on this one, though I must admit that most of my answers I wanted to add a 'but only in this case' or 'but not if...'

Sir "Moderation in extremes" Polish

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Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 3.88
Authoritarian/Libertarian: 1.64

There were way too many "well, maybe, but" answers for me too.

I'll stick with the World's Smallest Political Quiz..

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I ended up left and south of center:

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Economic Left/Right: -0.50
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -3.74

That said, as noted above some of the questions make things seem absolute when they are not. Others are just plain hokey:

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The businessman and the manufacturer are more important than the writer and the artist.
Like saying the hear and brain are more important then the lungs and liver. Well gee, I don't know, I couldn't live without any of them, so what makes one more important?

Beach...I swung in range of Anarchism which is interesting since I was an anarchist at one time in my life...Life!

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