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I wonder... how did the number 69 get to be a euphemism for sex? For that matter, how did the number 86 become a popular expression for killing, or otherwise disposing of ("86'ing") someone or something? And are there any other common numeric slang expressions out there that I haven't thought of yet? (Expressions used only in specific circles, such as "73" for goodbye in HAM-radio-ese, don't count - unless, of course, that's where a common numeric slang expression originated.)

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I think 69 should be pretty obvious. I don't understand where 86 came from though.

ETA: I know 143 means I love you. People usually use it when they're paging someone. From what I understand the origin of this is that it's the number of letters in each word in the phrase.

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No idea about the others, but I always assumed that 69 was in reference to the actual position: each person facing towards each other but with their heads at opposite ends... like the way a 6 and a 9 are written.

That was the most unsexy way I could possibly have described it... I am so proud.

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Isn't "86" some sort of police code?

ETA: From this page

http://www.askbrian.com/misc.html

"Q: Where did the term "86ing" come from? ex: The dinner special was 86ed
A: "86ing" indeed comes from the restaurant industry, specifically soda shops where codes were used for all items on the menu. A Code 19 meant a Banana Split, and a Code 33 meant a Cherry Coke. Code 86 originally meant "We're out of that item," so when a cook said he was "86ing" an order, that meant he was canceling it."

But I don't know how reliable this is. I thought 86 was a police code, but I couldn't find it on this page

http://www.cobras.org/police.htm

but interesting site, nonetheless.

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I think 86 has something to do with restaurants. At least that is how I have always heard it. 86 the special because we are all out of it.

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Originally posted by Munchkin by proxy:
No idea about the others, but I always assumed that 69 was in reference to the actual position: each person facing towards each other but with their heads at opposite ends... like the way a 6 and a 9 are written.

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Now let me get this straight... 69 is supposed to represent two people together such that one's head is next to the other's feet, and vice versa? My dirty little mind is racking itself trying to figure out how two people can have sex in that position, and I must say it completely escapes me. Wouldn't the guy's phallus be pointing the wrong way? Unless this is some sort of mutual foot-fetish deal as opposed to intercourse, this explanation doesn't quite ring true for me.
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Level 47:

69 does not refer to sex in general, it refers to two people performing oral sex on each other at the same time.

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Are you being serious? I can't even tell, how embarrassing. They're not having sex, it is purely for.. ahem.. 'oral pleasure', and obviously heads are not next to feet.

I apologise if you were just having a dig, I am having a slow Munchkin day.

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quote:
Originally posted by Level 47:
quote:
Originally posted by Munchkin by proxy:
No idea about the others, but I always assumed that 69 was in reference to the actual position: each person facing towards each other but with their heads at opposite ends... like the way a 6 and a 9 are written.

[NFBSK-sidetrack]
Now let me get this straight... 69 is supposed to represent two people together such that one's head is next to the other's feet, and vice versa? My dirty little mind is racking itself trying to figure out how two people can have sex in that position, and I must say it completely escapes me. Wouldn't the guy's phallus be pointing the wrong way? Unless this is some sort of mutual foot-fetish deal as opposed to intercourse, this explanation doesn't quite ring true for me.
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No, it's not feet to head it's head to naughty bits. Oral, you understand
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Deep-six

The whole nine yards

Dressed to the nines


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23 Skidoo!

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At sixes and sevens

Six of one, half a dozen of the other

Cloud nine

Behind the eight ball

Obviously the last one refers to pool but I've heard used to describe being in a difficult position.
Any ideas where the other three came from?

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For more various theories on "86," see

http://www.yaelf.com/aueFAQ/mifeightysixnix.shtml

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Might "cloud nine" have something to do with varying levels of heaven, with the ninth being the highest? Or something like that?
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"Ten-four" for "yes" was popular during the CB radio craze about 25 years ago. Does anyone know its origin?

I think the expression "four-flusher" means a phony. Can anyone confirm or correct this, and tell me where it came from?

"Two-timer" (someone who cheats on his or her spouse or lover) is pretty obvious.

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A 4-flusher is a poker player, a cheater. Basically, say you have 4 spades and a club- all black, you see. If you cover the club just so, so just a pinch of black shows, a quick glance will say you have 5 spades, a flush. It's an old cheat, but still sometimes used.

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quote:
Originally posted by Marricat:
"Ten-four" for "yes" was popular during the CB radio craze about 25 years ago. Does anyone know its origin?

I think the police use it over the phone to mean 'yes'. Not sure though
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It's the Ten Code.

http://home.att.net/~wizardoz/cbmw/10codes.html

10-4 = Message received.

187 is US police code for 'murder' is it not?

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There's a whole bunch of "ten codes". According to wikipedia they were invented by the police then picked up by the CB comunity. 10-4 and maybe 10-20 are the only ones that seem to have made it into general jargan.
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What's your 20?

My dork-in-denial husband still uses that on occasion.

I thought 69 came from the way the position was illustrated in the Kama Sutra. [Embarrassed]

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quote:
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What's your 20?

My dork-in-denial husband still uses that on occasion.

I thought 69 came from the way the position was illustrated in the Kama Sutra. [Embarrassed]

crb

Hey, hey, hey....we still use that on our Nextel phones from time to time at work....oh wait, we're dorks. Nevermind...

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quote:
Originally posted by Jay Tea:
187 is US police code for 'murder' is it not?

Not specifically "police code", it's the number on a section of the penal code. Commonly known also are

211 = robbery (I always heard this on the old "Adam-12" show)
502 = DUI (As in "taking the 502 express home")
125 = Excessive speed (Mentioned in Van Halen's "Can't drive 55")
5150 = Mentally disturbed person (Also the title of a Van Halen Album)

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Five-O is slang for police.
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From this article.

quote:

Select Citizens' Band 10-Code Phrasing

10-1 "Receiving poorly"*

10-2 "Receiving well"*

10-3 "Stop transmitting"

10-4 "Message received"* (also affimative)

10-6 "Busy, stand by"

10-9 "Repeat message"

10-10 "Transmission complete, standing by"

10-11 "You're talking too rapidly"

10-12 "Visitors present"

10-17 "Urgent business"

10-20 "Location"*

10-21 "Call by telephone"

10-22 "Report in person"

10-26 "Disregard last transmission"

10-30 "This does not conform to FCC rules"

10-35 "Confidential information"

10-38 "Ambulance needed"

10-42 "Traffic accident at..."

10-84 "My phone number is..."

10-91 "Talk closer to microphone"

10-99 "Mission completed, all units secure"

10-200 "Police needed at..."

Another I remeber from CB days was 10-36 "what time is it?"
* Also used around here by Fire/EMS providers.

Others used in local Fire/EMS jargon
10-7 "out of service/not available"
10-8 "in service/available"
10-23 "arrived on scene/working"
10-52 "requesting ambulance for transport"
10-53 "requesting police response"
10-54 "requesting urgent police response"
10-75 "requesting additional alrarm/address information"
10-78 "investigating for cause of alarm"
10-81 "rewind alarm box" (only the "old-timers" know this one)
10-99 "discontinuing telemetry/patient deceased"

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quote:
Originally posted by Jumbo70:
Five-O is slang for police.

I believe that comes from the TV show "Hawaii Five-0."

edited because I forgot how to spel.

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quote:
Originally posted by Phildonnia 2:
125 = Excessive speed (Mentioned in Van Halen's "Can't drive 55")

Pardon me for nitpicking, but it was Sammy Hagar, shortly before he joined Van Halen.

Re: 86. I was told that a person who was so drunk that a bartender would not serve him any more liquor was said to have been 86'd, and that this was why Maxwell Smart's number was chosen.

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This probably doesn't count since it only pertains to snopesters.... How could you forget the number 5?!
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How about 'What's the 411?'


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Information lines on phones are usually 411. So it means "what's the information" literally.

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A 4-flusher is a poker player, a cheater. Basically, say you have 4 spades and a club- all black, you see. If you cover the club just so, so just a pinch of black shows, a quick glance will say you have 5 spades, a flush. It's an old cheat, but still sometimes used.


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What I meant to add to my error post above was:

A "four-flusher" wasn't a cheater, mearly a "bluffer" or a "poseur."

No basis for the "hidden card" trick in anything I've found.

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When the History Channel did a special on gambling technology, this was one of the terms covered, in the way I described. I've heard it from other places as well.

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quote:
Originally posted by sam:
What I meant to add to my error post above was:

A "four-flusher" wasn't a cheater, mearly a "bluffer" or a "poseur."

ummmm once you reveal your hand, you're obliged to correctly state your hand...four-flushing is misrepresenting your hand, and thus cheating. Bluffing is misleading about what your hidden cards are.

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I think the expression "four-flusher" means a phony. Can anyone confirm or correct this, and tell me where it came from?

Ah, there's the question to which I was trying to reply.
I'm sure it came from cards. It only shows up around 1895-1905 in print.

I just found an 1885 cite describing a tete-a-tete between the Russian and the British. It goes on to say,
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The great bluff game, where both sides were drawing to a four flush, has been turned against the bluffer.
An 1883 cite about a card game describes a guy drawing to a "four flush." And he was bluffing.

So, draw your own conclusions.

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Ah....drawing to a 4 flush means that you have 4 cards of the same suit and are trying to obtain the 5th. The bluff is leading your opponents to believe you have the 5th card in the hole, when in fact you do not. A four-flusher, though is a person who attempts to pass off a 4 card flush as a five card flush. Casino Termsand Poker cheating In short, if the 5th card is in the hole, that's a legitimate bluff...if it's face up it's a cheat.

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