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Originally posted by MrGreg:
The A-spot?

I'm thinking anus?

Cer "Never had it, never will" vus

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Originally posted by MrGreg:
The A-spot?

I'm thinking anus?

Cer "Never had it, never will" vus

That's what I thought, just never heard it referred to that way.

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That's what I thought, just never heard it referred to that way.
I thought men had an A spot and women had a G spot -- I did not realize that women had an A spot and a G spot.

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Originally posted by Green Kangaroo:
I thought men had an A spot and women had a G spot -- I did not realize that women had an A spot and a G spot.

Not all women do. Some may have one or the other. Some don't have either. The problem is in saying that certain body parts are erogenous zones for everyone of that gender.

And I don't like the term "G-spot". Doesn't it refer to Grafenberg, the doctor who "discovered" this? Like it didn't exist before him? It doesn't refer to a part of the body. It refers to the person who supposedly "discovered" it, and that's why I don't like the term. What kind of egotistical freak names a part of the female sexual anatomy after himself?!

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Not all women do. Some may have one or the other. Some don't have either. The problem is in saying that certain body parts are erogenous zones for everyone of that gender.

Fair enough -- I completely see what you are saying.

What I should have said (but did not) is that I did not realize that people commonly referred to women having both a G spot and an A spot.

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Originally posted by Green Kangaroo:
What I should have said (but did not) is that I did not realize that people commonly referred to women having both a G spot and an A spot.

You're correct in this - I've never heard the term "A-spot" until now. I'm wondering if it's something Angelwings just made up off-the-cuff.

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Originally posted by Cervus:
And I don't like the term "G-spot". Doesn't it refer to Grafenberg, the doctor who "discovered" this? Like it didn't exist before him? It doesn't refer to a part of the body. It refers to the person who supposedly "discovered" it, and that's why I don't like the term. What kind of egotistical freak names a part of the female sexual anatomy after himself?!

Aren't lots of things in the body named after their discoverers?

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Originally posted by Cervus:
And I don't like the term "G-spot". Doesn't it refer to Grafenberg, the doctor who "discovered" this? Like it didn't exist before him? It doesn't refer to a part of the body. It refers to the person who supposedly "discovered" it, and that's why I don't like the term. What kind of egotistical freak names a part of the female sexual anatomy after himself?!

Aren't lots of things in the body named after their discoverers?
Most of them use latin or Greek roots to describe them. Off the top of my head, other than the G-spot, only the Isles of Langerhans pops in my head.

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None that I know of. Please, name one if you do.

Also, that area, and orgasms in general, are very intimate, and I don't personally like the idea of having a stranger's name associated with how I achieve orgasm. I've seen magazines that refer to it as the "Grafenberg Orgasm". If a man named Grafenberg is personally inducing that orgasm in me, that's the only time that phrasing would be acceptable. Otherwise, it's egotistical, creepy, and weird. (IMO, of course.)

EDIT: It's the intimate orgasm association that I have a problem with. I have no emotional attachment to my pancreas; therefore, I have no problem with the name Islets of Langerhans.

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It is not likely that Grafenberg named the location after himself. Somebody else probably suggested it. When you 'discover' something it helps to name it, and if you don't name it, others will. I suppose it could have been called something like the Prostatina or Ladbigellian or Pungia. All of those are weird, as almost any new word for a part of the body would be odd sounding.

If you don't like the name G-Spot or G-Orgasm, then you will find true irony next. The natural process that allows you to complain about things being named after their discoverers is actually named after its discoverer - Darwinism [Big Grin]

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Originally posted by Barns & No Bull:
The natural process that allows you to complain about things being named after their discoverers is actually named after its discoverer - Darwinism [Big Grin]

That's funny -- I thought it was called evolution by natural selection.
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back on topic: I suggest people try www.booble.com if they wanna find out more...you can pick up some (free) videos or something there.


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Originally posted by Barns & No Bull:
The natural process that allows you to complain about things being named after their discoverers is actually named after its discoverer - Darwinism [Big Grin]

That's funny -- I thought it was called evolution by natural selection.
Yep, that's its more descriptive name. But 'Darwinism' is perfectly acceptable to those who know; as well as 'Neo-Darwinism' for a modernized version.

And similarly, the G-Spot could be called the place on the roof of the vagina that brings pleasure to some women.

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Well, perhaps I've been listening to the wrong people, but I think I've heard the word Darwinism used mostly in the phrase social Darwinism and Darwinian theory to describe Darwin's theory of evolution -- but not the process Darwin's theory described. Perhaps I'm splitting hairs, but to me it sounds incorrect to say, for example, "All life forms that exist today arose through a process of Darwinism."

ETA: Gee, the name Darwin starts looking really weird when you type it six times in one paragraph.

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You are splitting hairs, and getting off-track because of it.

Random House Webster's College Dictionary defines it this way:

Darwinism - the Darwinian theory that species originate by descent with slight variation from parent forms through the natural selection of individuals best adapted for survival and reproduction. [1855-60].

"Neo-Darwinism" adds the knowledge of genetics to Darwinism, further strengthening it.

FWIW, Darwin knew nothing of genes or genetics, though he did propose some mechanism of inheritance. He thought it was something in the blood itself. He trashed that hypothesis when he found that blood transfusions didn't cause observable changes in the transfusive.

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And I don't like the term "G-spot". Doesn't it refer to Grafenberg, the doctor who "discovered" this? Like it didn't exist before him? It doesn't refer to a part of the body. It refers to the person who supposedly "discovered" it, and that's why I don't like the term. What kind of egotistical freak names a part of the female sexual anatomy after himself?!
As Barns & No Bull correctly assumed, the Grafenberg spot was named well after the death of Ernst Gräfenberg (1881-1957), the German-born U.S. gynecologist. The OED lists as the earliest mention in print of "Grafenberg spot,"

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1981 F. ADDIEGO et al. in Jrnl. Sex Res XVII. 15 The subject identified an erotically sensitive spot, palpable through the anterior wall of her vagina. We subsequently named this area the 'Grafenberg spot' in recognition of the person who wrote of its existence and relationship to female ejaculation.
I'll also note that "Graafian follicle" and "Fallopian tube," terms associated with conception in females, were also named (posthumously) after males.

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I call it the rabbit habit spot (not work safe, of course).
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Oops, I should have clarified on the A-spot part. It is the area between the G-spot and the cervix. It is probably just part of the G-spot, but the sensation it produces is different. I didn't know about it myself until I read about it in a sex newsletter and decided to try it. I have no idea why it's named the A-spot though.
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Regarding G-Stop orgasms vs Clitoral orgasms. My girlfriend and I were both raped as young girls and have since become lesbians. We both find penetration of any kind unpleasant. We have a fantastic sex-life, despite only having clitoral orgasms in the 6 years we have been together, and are both totally satisfied. It might sound corny, but has any one mentioned that the power of your orgasms is directly proportional to how much you are in love with that person. That's why you often have the best orgasms during masturbation!
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Sorry, that's G-Spot!!!!!
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I've heard that the male G-spot is the prostate, too. That's why some men get ED (Erectile Dysfunction) after they have the surgery. Bob Dole did some commercials about that after his. My mom is from the Old School/School of Hard Knocks, and when she saw that, she said, "They talk about everything on TV nowadays, don't they?"

I "ejaculate" sometimes when I masturbate, only it looks like someone sneezed on me there; it looks like snot. Remember that movie, The Tall Guy with Jeff Goldblum, Emma Thompson, and Rowan atkinson? Dexter(Jeff)and his girlfriend (Emma)
are in bed together and he's giving her oral sex and he starts sneezing! I thought that was so funny.

BTW- I use this little suction thing that looks like two rubber/silicone lips that feels like oral sex. I got it from Xandria. (in answer to the masturbation) I feel like I've got to pee too afterwards, and I feel all swollen.

I've had sexy dreams, but the toy really doesn't do it justice.

To anybody that wants to know- I'm still a virgin
and don't date much. My mom drilled her "Old School" thinking into me when I was very young and I can't get out from under it. So I probably masturbate more than the average person.

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Originally posted by Nan8:
To anybody that wants to know- I'm still a virgin
and don't date much. My mom drilled her "Old School" thinking into me when I was very young and I can't get out from under it. So I probably masturbate more than the average person.

I was raised in the "Old School" way by my parents till I started noticing inconsistencies with their actions.

My mom always extolled "waiting till you're married" but would make jokes with her freinds about what a umm, "party girl" she was in college. I've seen photo albums with her looking rather err disheveled with some guy's arm around her.

My dad always had a stack of pornos laying somewhere that I would sometimes spy before they were wisked away. I developed the sense my dad was a pretty horny guy and probably wouldn't have wanted to wait.

When my parents would talk about when they were dating, and they still talk to/visit with the freinds they had then, it's been made pretty clear they were hot and heavy.

So the conclusion that I drew was that my mom did not wait till marriage, and didn't even lose it with my dad. I don't respect her less, more that it was dumb saying all those strict anti-sexuality things to me growing up only to be a complete hypocrit.

In any event this all leads to
A) I probably masturbated more than the usual person in my teens as well.
B) I did have some issues with the intense feeling of attraction to my SO because of the baggage my mom left me with.
C) In my experience all those crap feelings went away when I just accepted I love my man and that he was the right one for me.


In the unlikely event he and I ever separate, I won't have any regrets because he made all the misgivings go away [Smile] So there's hope (somewhere in my ramblings)

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Whew! I thought I was really going to get razzed and flamed "right down into the ground" after that
one! Yes, I feel like a freak sometimes when I tell people I'm a virgin. I got teased a lot in school about it and used to giggle, really embarrassed, when the other girls would brag about their sex lives.

I hope this isn't too detailed and graphic but...Sometimes when i have my sexy dreams (which isn't very often), I can't "react" like I'm supposed to because I think someone's watching me, the things my mother told me come back to haunt me: Nice girls don't scream, nice girls don't get or give oral sex (I've done it and gotten it. It's really not as bad as some people make it out to be, saying that only gays do it.), I know that the men I'm with in the dreams are married in "real life" and get scared.

I guess frigidity is a psychological, not necessarily a physical condition/whatever.

My father was very funny about giving my sister and I physical affection; he thought it was incest. I guess that's one reason I haven't really "done it" yet.

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Eh, don't worry Nan8. We're a pretty open bunch around here. [Smile] It's the first time I hear that "only gays do oral sex" though, looks like you grew up in a very prude environment.

I just hope you will enjoy it when you finally take that final step!

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I'm female, and can ejaculate. I've read a lot of info on it, and even a study that talked about how the drained the subjects bladders completely, (by use of a catheter) and then worked to stimulate the women to ejaculate (apparently while leaving the catheters in o_O). They studied the fluid, and found little to no traces of urine in it, even though it comes from the urethra. They noted that in women who CAN ejaculate, they tended to have some sort of miniscule, yet functioning prostate gland that served a somewhat similar function to the male counterpart.

I think it's neat stuff myself. My boyfriend thinks it's a huge turn-on, so who am I to question? hehe

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quote:
Originally posted by Nan8:
Whew! I thought I was really going to get razzed and flamed "right down into the ground" after that
one! Yes, I feel like a freak sometimes when I tell people I'm a virgin. I got teased a lot in school about it and used to giggle, really embarrassed, when the other girls would brag about their sex lives.

I hope this isn't too detailed and graphic but...Sometimes when i have my sexy dreams (which isn't very often), I can't "react" like I'm supposed to because I think someone's watching me, the things my mother told me come back to haunt me: Nice girls don't scream, nice girls don't get or give oral sex (I've done it and gotten it. It's really not as bad as some people make it out to be, saying that only gays do it.), I know that the men I'm with in the dreams are married in "real life" and get scared.

I guess frigidity is a psychological, not necessarily a physical condition/whatever.

My father was very funny about giving my sister and I physical affection; he thought it was incest. I guess that's one reason I haven't really "done it" yet.

I don't understand how people give and receive oral sex and still claim to be virgins. There's plenty of sex acts that you can perform without breaking your hymen.
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I think that the connection between g-spot orgasm and the 'need to pee' sensation probably has something to do with how hard the muscles involved are working at that time. The muscles that contract when women orgasm, and the ones that she works when doing kegels, are the same ones used to control urination. The easiest and most effective way to do kegels is to tighten the muscles in the same way you would to stop the flow of urine.

(sounds sexy, no? [Razz] )

I've had some g-spot orgasms before, complete with the intense need to pee feeling. It's an odd sensation to say the least o.O

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"G-spot" is just the spot on the vaginal wall through which the urethral sponge (ring of erectile tissue around the urethra) is touched. Some women have a more pronounced g-spot than others, and respond to stimulation better, but all women have one.
I wish someone would research and report on what, exactly, g-spot fluid is made up of, since all anybody knows is that it's not urine! Oh well ... whatever it is, have fun with it! [Smile]

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I think this thread did raise an interesting question, though - how many believe that no matter what sexual acts you engage in, you can still consider yourself a virgin as long as a penis doesn't enter your vagina?

It seems that maybe the rules are loosening a bit on this one, with some people being convinced that oral sex is not sex. In other words, you can blow the entire football team, deal out a few thousand handjobs, receive oral until you're raw, and even go for the occasional anal sex, but still say you're a virgin, if it's only by the slimmest of technicalities?

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I don't see how you can think something with the word "sex" in the name isn't sex...

I know people do, I just don't understand it...

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...but still say you're a virgin, if it's only by the slimmest of technicalities?

It's not a slim technicality. The term virgin is generally used to denote not having vaginal intercourse. If a person means something else then it will have to be understood by the context.

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quote:
Originally posted by Helen:
It might sound corny, but has any one mentioned that the power of your orgasms is directly proportional to how much you are in love with that person. That's why you often have the best orgasms during masturbation!

OMG! [Big Grin] Can I make that my sig? Cuz my sig sucks...
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Originally posted by Toddgar Allen Poe:
It amazes me that scientists can't agree on this, while pornographers seem to have known about it for years.

I find it completely unsurprising that pornographers know more about sex than scientists do.
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I am able to FE numerous times in a row...and never thought I was peeing, it just doesn't feel the same as when I pee. I always thought it was freaky, but my current SO finds it a turn on. I do have to be really relaxed for this to happen, and whether it happens or not, I always have great orgasams. I am a pretty lucky girl since I don't have to work so hard to have the big O either!
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quote:
Originally posted by Nan8:
I "ejaculate" sometimes when I masturbate, only it looks like someone sneezed on me there; it looks like snot. Remember that movie, The Tall Guy with Jeff Goldblum, Emma Thompson, and Rowan atkinson? Dexter(Jeff)and his girlfriend (Emma)
are in bed together and he's giving her oral sex and he starts sneezing! I thought that was so funny.



/hijack: That's my favourite film of all time and also has the best sex scene of all time(and I normally hate sex scenes they make me cringe). I lent it to my friend ages ago and she never gave it back, I keep meaning to look for a dvd copy of it.

Does anyone else find that when they ejaculate(which for me is very rarely) its almost like water in consistency and doesnt have a nice lubricating sensation and instead makes things uncomfortable.
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