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Comment: I hear the phrase "going greek" means having anal sex because greek
culture supposedly forbids vaginal intercourse
prior to marriage. Therefore, anal intercourse is permitted.

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I've heard this before. I think what the actual case was was that in ancient Greece, love between two men was considered the ideal, because men were the ideal creatures, or something. Just my two pennies, rolling under the couch.
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Originally posted by phobia:
I think what the actual case was was that in ancient Greece, love between two men was considered the ideal, because men were the ideal creatures, or something.

I'm taking a course in Greek and Roman Mythology right now. It's true that men were the ideal creatures. Their bodies were considered beatiful while female bodies were inferior and ugly. In Greek art (not Roman), the gods are usually protrayed naked or nearly so, while the goddesses are clothed.

I don't know, however, if homosexuality comes into play at all. The norm was still to have lots of children, because kids were old age security. Being old and begging on the street for scraps was extremely disgraceful to the Ancient Greeks, and if you didn't have children to look after you that's exactly what would happen.

I will email my professor and ask her about this. She may have some insight.

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Originally posted by Flamingo Jenn:
I don't know, however, if homosexuality comes into play at all. The norm was still to have lots of children, because kids were old age security.

But love doesn't come into play into that. It's perfectly possible to have a wife at home breeding like crazy while you go around town with your young lovely gym buddies. In fact, that was probably what happened.

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WEll according to the Channel 4 documentary Sex BC. The greeks took wives in order to reproduce, Greeks were a very patriachal society and so having sons was ideal. However they believed that love could only exist between men.

There was one story of how the Greek men would organise a dinner and approach the father of a young attractive boy to ask if he may attend the dinner. The Boy would then be the guest of honour and the older men there would appreciate his beauty (not sure exactly what this involved).

Homosexual relationships are found through greek and roman history. Alexander the great and Hephaeston were rumoured to be more than Friends, and even Julius Caeser was rumoured to have a preference for boys.Tiberius was said to have the young male slaves swim around him whilst he swam and "nibble" at him.(Suetonius, the twelve ceasers)

Back to the OP. I can imagine that he term going greek has come to mean Anal sex, as It is a widely accepted that the Greeks enjoyed homosexual relations, and this has now come to mean anal intercourse.

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My girlfriend's greek girl friend had told her that it's a tradition that the women in her family remain virgins until they're married, and so, she has had only anal sex with her boyfriend.

Seriously.

Smooth "He's a good Greek boy too" Lou

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It's all greek to me [Roll Eyes]

Well, somebody had to say it!

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I'm taking a course in Greek and Roman Mythology right now. It's true that men were the ideal creatures. Their bodies were considered beatiful while female bodies were inferior and ugly. In Greek art (not Roman), the gods are usually protrayed naked or nearly so, while the goddesses are clothed.
Yep, I remember this from an art history class I took. And homosexuality most definitely came into play in Ancient Greece, I'm trying to find a picture online, but the prof. showed us some black figure pottery depicted many different acts of man love.

Ok, found a link with lot's of ancient art depicting homosexuality over here: http://www.androphile.org/preview/Museum/ Just so you know, that link is definitely NFBSK. Really interesting stuff though.

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quote:
Originally posted by little miss:
WEll according to the Channel 4 documentary Sex BC. The greeks took wives in order to reproduce, Greeks were a very patriachal society and so having sons was ideal. However they believed that love could only exist between men.

There was one story of how the Greek men would organise a dinner and approach the father of a young attractive boy to ask if he may attend the dinner. The Boy would then be the guest of honour and the older men there would appreciate his beauty (not sure exactly what this involved).

Homosexual relationships are found through greek and roman history. Alexander the great and Hephaeston were rumoured to be more than Friends, and even Julius Caeser was rumoured to have a preference for boys.Tiberius was said to have the young male slaves swim around him whilst he swam and "nibble" at him.(Suetonius, the twelve ceasers)

Back to the OP. I can imagine that he term going greek has come to mean Anal sex, as It is a widely accepted that the Greeks enjoyed homosexual relations, and this has now come to mean anal intercourse.

little miss

There's a Drinking Song in there somewhere.

"Alexander and Hephaeston were rumoured to be eachothers toys, and even Julius Caeser was rumoured to have a preference for boys..." [Embarrassed]

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quote:
Originally posted by Smooth Lou:
My girlfriend's greek girl friend had told her that it's a tradition that the women in her family remain virgins until they're married, and so, she has had only anal sex with her boyfriend.

Really?? That sounds like an Urban Myth to me. eg. my friends' friend says this....
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quote:
Originally posted by Liam:
quote:
Originally posted by Smooth Lou:
My girlfriend's greek girl friend had told her that it's a tradition that the women in her family remain virgins until they're married, and so, she has had only anal sex with her boyfriend.

Really?? That sounds like an Urban Myth to me. eg. my friends' friend says this....
Well, I have a couple of friends who say they've tried that approach with boyfriends... I can't exacly verify this (nor do I wish to.)
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Originally posted by Evil Anya:
Ok, found a link with lot's of ancient art depicting homosexuality over here: http://www.androphile.org/preview/Museum/ Just so you know, that link is definitely NFBSK. Really interesting stuff though.

That is pretty interesting, but I'm wondering what the heck is that dog doing???
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A friend of mine is a cop, and he said if you check out the escort ads, the hooker offering the ad will usually say something like.

"Fluent in Greek & French."

Meaning she'll do anal and oral.

Kind of a code word thing for prospective johns.

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quote:
Originally posted by Liam:
quote:
Originally posted by Smooth Lou:
My girlfriend's greek girl friend had told her that it's a tradition that the women in her family remain virgins until they're married, and so, she has had only anal sex with her boyfriend.

Really?? That sounds like an Urban Myth to me. eg. my friends' friend says this....
No. last week, me, my girlfriend, her greek friend (who, by the way, is a super hottie) and her best friend all got together at a restaurant and talked sex.

Seriously.

Smooth Lou

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Since we're on the topic of Greeks... anyone heard of the Greek handshake?
Apparently, it involves stroking the inside of the other person's hand with your middle finger while shaking hands.

H "interesting topic" Barbie

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Originally posted by Hacker Bar Bee:
Since we're on the topic of Greeks... anyone heard of the Greek handshake?
Apparently, it involves stroking the inside of the other person's hand with your middle finger while shaking hands.

I was told (by a homosexual man) that was the "homosexual handshake". Although, why anyone would use it with a stranger is beyond me. It feels... creepy...

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Explains the old joke"

How do you separate the men from the boys in Greece?

With a crow-bar!

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A Greek friend of mine told me "a woman for children, a boy for pleasure, a goat for necessity."

Reminds me of a joke.

A couple arrive on a Greek island for a holiday. Picked up by their tour guide, he introduces himself as Yanni. "I'm the only tour guide on this island. Do they call me Yanni the tour guide?"

Up the hill from the docks, he points out all the fishing boats. "I own over half the fishing boats on this island. Do they call my Yanni the fisherman?"

He points out a vineyard. "My vines grow most of the grapes on this island. Do they call me Yanni the winemaker?"

Out in farm country now, Yanni points out a goat. "See that goat? You NFBSK ONE goat....."

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quote:
Originally posted by little miss:
...Back to the OP. I can imagine that he term going greek has come to mean Anal sex, as It is a widely accepted that the Greeks enjoyed homosexual relations, and this has now come to mean anal intercourse.

I believe there are also analogous terms in that vein, like "Greek love" and "Greek way."

There's also "Italian style," which also suggests that the Italians are fond of anal intercourse (in fact, Paul Theroux notes this in The Pillars of Hercules, particularly so when it comes to Italian tastes in pornography).

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Well, I'm glad that's cleared up. I was afraid it involved feta cheese.

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quote:
Originally posted by snopes:
Comment: I hear the phrase "going greek" means having anal sex because greek
culture supposedly forbids vaginal intercourse
prior to marriage. Therefore, anal intercourse is permitted.

OK, I have heard the term "greek" as anal...but "going greek" had a rather different meaning as I've always heard it...meaning joining a fraternity or sorority. As in "Joe's going greek" [Eek!]

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