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Comment: Is it true that Chik fil A doesn't sell franchises to women? And
that the original recipie was in essence stolen from one of the black
cooks?

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If they did it would have to be very subtle about it or equal opportunity laws would be all over them.
Blackenterprise.com actually recommends Chick-Fil-A as a franchise opportunity for prospective black business owners. Seems an unlikely site to recommend a business that had stolen its main business model from a black man, or openly discriminates against another minority like women.

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Minor quibble: According to the 2000 US census, 50.9% of the population are women. That would make them a majority.

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html

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Too bad the mall is closed, this thread is making me hungry
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quote:
Originally posted by Duff Yazzie-Stephens:
Too bad the mall is closed, this thread is making me hungry

*snickers and finishes eating his sandwich from Chick-Fil-A*

One I was given for free at that. ^^

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thats just wrong.... Too bad its Sunday too, the bus doesnt run today
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And Chick-Fil-A isn't open on Sundays, either. It's owned by Truett Cathey, a conservative Southern Baptist, who doesn't think businesses should operate on Sundays.

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Originally posted by John Stephens:
Minor quibble: According to the 2000 US census, 50.9% of the population are women. That would make them a majority.

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html

You know not to hijack but I've always wonder about that, why women are considered a minority despite the fact that historically they have always been a sliver more women then men.

In modern terminology "minority" seems to have context beyond exact numbers.

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I can't recall hearing people make a blanket statement that women are a minority, but the two words are often used together. E.g. "Women and minorities encouraged to apply." People might also say something like "women are a minority in X profession," which isn't saying that women as a whole are a minority group, and would be accurate in the case of, say, nuclear physicists.

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quote:
Originally posted by Joe Bentley:
You know not to hijack but I've always wonder about that, why women are considered a minority despite the fact that historically they have always been a sliver more women then men.

In modern terminology "minority" seems to have context beyond exact numbers.

Women are considered to be a minority because the fall under this definition -- "A group having little power or representation relative to other groups within a society." The group with the power is men. Source: http://www.answers.com/minority&r=67

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Originally posted by Sara at home:
Women are considered to be a minority because the fall under this definition -- "A group having little power or representation relative to other groups within a society." The group with the power is men. Source: http://www.answers.com/minority&r=67

I'll be sure to tell my wife that...then duck.

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Okay. I forgot I was a brutal male opressor. I'll be sure and update my business cards. [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by Brad from Georgia:
And Chick-Fil-A isn't open on Sundays, either. It's owned by Truett Cathey, a conservative Southern Baptist, who doesn't think businesses should operate on Sundays.

Busted him!!!

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quote:
Originally posted by RangerDog:
quote:
Originally posted by Brad from Georgia:
And Chick-Fil-A isn't open on Sundays, either. It's owned by Truett Cathey, a conservative Southern Baptist, who doesn't think businesses should operate on Sundays.

Busted him!!!

RangerDog

For what? I thought it was pretty common knowledge the founder of Chick-Fil-A was conservative.

So help me Ranger Dog, if you endanger my supply of chicken sandwiches, I'm hunting you down with frozen poultry and it won't be pretty.

[Wink]

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Once upon a time, Mr. Cathey insisted that any prospective new teenage employees had to spend a day with him being quizzed on doctrinal soundness before the teen could be hired. I expect the franchise is too large for that now. When I taught at a Baptist college, some of my students were former employees of Chick-Fil-A, and they said no test in college was as hard as Mr. Cathey's questions about the Bible and its interpretation.

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I thought it wasn't that women per se were the minority, but women as business owners are - hence the preference in getting business loans and minority grants.

But that power thing works, too. In business, anyway.

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Originally posted by Brad from Georgia:
Once upon a time, Mr. Cathey insisted that any prospective new teenage employees had to spend a day with him being quizzed on doctrinal soundness before the teen could be hired.

I read an article that it is still policy that teenage employees must show their report cards & progress reports to the store manager, and that if their grades fall, their hours are cut.

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Women-owned businesses often qualify as "minority business enterprises" or "disavantaged business enterprises" pursuant to federal, state, and/or local laws advancing socio-economic policies. The idea is that a group can be socially disadvantaged while still composing a numerical majority.

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quote:
Originally posted by Brad from Georgia:
Once upon a time, Mr. Cathey insisted that any prospective new teenage employees had to spend a day with him being quizzed on doctrinal soundness before the teen could be hired. I expect the franchise is too large for that now. When I taught at a Baptist college, some of my students were former employees of Chick-Fil-A, and they said no test in college was as hard as Mr. Cathey's questions about the Bible and its interpretation.

Pretty much everybody who worked at the first Chick-fil-a in my hometown were either students or teachers at the local private independent Baptist school. I always thought it was strange how they would refer to my order of a chicken sandwich without pickles as a "gentile".

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Originally posted by Elkhound:
I read an article that it is still policy that teenage employees must show their report cards & progress reports to the store manager, and that if their grades fall, their hours are cut.

I can't be the only one who doesn't really have a problem with this policy. They are kids after all. Work should not be their first priority. Frankly, I think more highly of Chick-Fil-A that they recognize this too.

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I don't think its a universal Chick-Fil-A policy though. There is one inside the food court on my college campus, and during my illustrious career as a food service employee I was never asked to show my grades. Of course I was a college student, so maybe the policy only applies to HS students? Oh and we definately didn't have a Bible quiz prior to working there. Maybe some of the standards were relaxed becasuse we weren't a stand alone?

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i guess they are a Usa only outfit

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quote:
Originally posted by bufungla:
quote:
Originally posted by Brad from Georgia:
Once upon a time, Mr. Cathey insisted that any prospective new teenage employees had to spend a day with him being quizzed on doctrinal soundness before the teen could be hired. I expect the franchise is too large for that now. When I taught at a Baptist college, some of my students were former employees of Chick-Fil-A, and they said no test in college was as hard as Mr. Cathey's questions about the Bible and its interpretation.

Pretty much everybody who worked at the first Chick-fil-a in my hometown were either students or teachers at the local private independent Baptist school. I always thought it was strange how they would refer to my order of a chicken sandwich without pickles as a "gentile".

buf 'I'm totally serious' ungla

Fundie humor. Whatcha gonna do? When I went to Baylor, we did some of the same. At football and basketball games, UT and A&M had huge flags they'd wave in the crowd. One of our frats swiped a Christian flag out of a church and used to wave it in retaliation. Small and subtle and pretty futile, but we got a snicker out of it. When Aggies and T-sips and SandAggies would start trading insults, we'd usually wrap it up with "..and we're Baylor grads and all you heathens are going to hell."

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by RangerDog:
quote:
Originally posted by Brad from Georgia:
And Chick-Fil-A isn't open on Sundays, either. It's owned by Truett Cathey, a conservative Southern Baptist, who doesn't think businesses should operate on Sundays.

Busted him!!!

RangerDog

For what? I thought it was pretty common knowledge the founder of Chick-Fil-A was conservative.

So help me Ranger Dog, if you endanger my supply of chicken sandwiches, I'm hunting you down with frozen poultry and it won't be pretty.

[Wink]

Brad busted Midgard_Dragon because everyone knows that the Chick is not open on Sunday [Wink]

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It should also be noted that Truett Cathy keeps CFA closed on Sundays "so that all my employees have at least one day off a week".

It's true that this comment came once CFA got fairly large and he wasn't able to pick and choose his employees like he did when the chain was really small. So his comment *does* has a religious basis, but has been "secularized" now.

Also, CFA franchisees must have *a lot* of power over their stores and their employees. One CFA store on Albermarle Road in Charlotte has the word "God" in at least three places in the store, while the CFA on Franklin Boulevard in Gatsonia has exactly *zero* that I could see.

Also, my sister worked at a CFA near our house in GA for years and the franchisee *never* asked about grades (except when it was scholarship time*). In fact, she was "de facto" assistant manager with her own set of store keys when she was still in high school.


* - Truett Cathy is apparently big on scholarships.

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quote:
Originally posted by bufungla:
Pretty much everybody who worked at the first Chick-fil-a in my hometown were either students or teachers at the local private independent Baptist school. I always thought it was strange how they would refer to my order of a chicken sandwich without pickles as a "gentile".

buf 'I'm totally serious' ungla

Mr. Cookies used to work there before I met him. He once told me all the names for different sammich variations, but I forgot most of them. I think "extra pickles" was a "rabbi." Maybe it had something to do with "kosher" dills?

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quote:
Originally posted by Rex Fenestrarum:
Also, CFA franchisees must have *a lot* of power over their stores and their employees. One CFA store on Albermarle Road in Charlotte has the word "God" in at least three places in the store, while the CFA on Franklin Boulevard in Gatsonia has exactly *zero* that I could see.


The last time I was actually in a freestanding CFA resturant, they were playing Christian hymns over the PA system. Not peppy rock and roll praise and worship songs, either, but good, old fashioned hymns.

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