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I can't believe any woman would really do this, but I guess there are some out there stupid enough to do it.

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From scanning the transcript, it looks like many of those targeted were young, like kids or teens. Many references to mother's getting home, or mother's doctors, or them not being mature. That could have something to do with their compliance/

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It was my impression some of them were college students. He said he chose that town because it was a college town.

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Once again, a sexual predator is targetting young women and it is their fault that they are victimized?

He specifically targeted young, probably inexperienced women, intending to cause them bodily harm. This is their fault how?

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If a stranger calls you on the phone and tells you to remove your panties and shove a knife up your vagina or cut off your nipple, and you do so, then yes, you are responsible for your own actions. If the man is in your presence forcing you to do it against your will, then I wouldn't hold you responsible.

Anyone who isn't mentally or developmentally disabled (regardless of age) should realize that a phone call like this requires an immediate hang-up and a notification to the police or trusted adult.

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I'm surprised that the suspect is being charged with aggravated assault. I didn't know that you could commit assault by presuading someone else to hurt herself.

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I never said it was their fault, I said they were stupid enough to do it.

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This reminds of the thread a while back about the guy who called fast food restaurants and convinced some employees to strip and molest another employee.

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Originally posted by Adelaide:
This reminds of the thread a while back about the guy who called fast food restaurants and convinced some employees to strip and molest another employee.

Oddly enough, this story was in the news today. He was found not guilty in this first trial, but there are more trials to come.

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The scary thing is that I know at least two people who would be gullible enough to fall for this kind of thing.

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I actually heard about this on some talk show... Montel I think. Sounds almost exactly like this... the woman who was on was told that her mother had been given a mammogram and blah blah (skipping grotesque details). She said the guy kept telling her it was okay to scream so she thinks that he wanted to hear her screams and she stayed silent the whole time she did it. Then, as instructed, she flushed the nipple down the toilet. [Eek!] :shudder:

It is really sad that there are people who believe a doctor would:

1) Call them up, unsolicited
2) Instruct them to perform a "surgical" procedure on themselves, unanaesthetized, in unsterile conditions and without any tests confirming that any procedure needed to be done in the first place
3) Have them get rid of the excised body part in the trash, down the toilet, what have you, rather than sent to a lab for biopsy.

My heart goes out to the women who fell for this sadist's crap, and hooray to all the women who were smart enough to hang up!

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OMG how sad [Frown]
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If a stranger calls you on the phone and tells you to remove your panties and shove a knife up your vagina or cut off your nipple, and you do so, then yes, you are responsible for your own actions.
I agree, but this does not in any way remove any responsibility from the sicko who got them to do it.

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quote:
Originally posted by Troberg:
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If a stranger calls you on the phone and tells you to remove your panties and shove a knife up your vagina or cut off your nipple, and you do so, then yes, you are responsible for your own actions.
I agree, but this does not in any way remove any responsibility from the sicko who got them to do it.
I agree that the man should be criminally charged. However, I was responding to TGirl's question of how it's the woman's fault. It wasn't their fault that he chose to target them, but it was their decision to follow the ludicrous advice of a stranger on the telephone.

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quote:
Originally posted by Purple Iguana:
I actually heard about this on some talk show... Montel I think. Sounds almost exactly like this... the woman who was on was told that her mother had been given a mammogram and blah blah (skipping grotesque details). She said the guy kept telling her it was okay to scream so she thinks that he wanted to hear her screams and she stayed silent the whole time she did it. Then, as instructed, she flushed the nipple down the toilet. [Eek!] :shudder:

Even aside from the other reasons you mentioned about why such a call should not be believed, why would she do it if she thought the guy wanted to hear her scream? My mind just boggles at people believing this stuff. This guy is so sick. I feel sick to my stomach reading this stuff *shudder*

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I remeber reading about this nutcase in the paper when the news first came out. The first thing that popped into my head was, "How can anyone be so stupid as to follow this man's suggestions?"

If I had recieved one of this perv's calls, I would've found out where he lived and given him a taste of his own medicine. Or at least the temptation would've been strong....

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To give him a taste of his own medicine would be to call him and tell him to cut something off, you wouldn't need to know where he lived.

If I recieved a call like that I'd try to get actual information out of him, then I'd call the cops and report it.

Every time I come back to this thread I feel sick again, imagining this stuff.

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quote:
Originally posted by poisoned candy from strangers:
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Originally posted by Purple Iguana:
I actually heard about this on some talk show... Montel I think. Sounds almost exactly like this... the woman who was on was told that her mother had been given a mammogram and blah blah (skipping grotesque details). She said the guy kept telling her it was okay to scream so she thinks that he wanted to hear her screams and she stayed silent the whole time she did it. Then, as instructed, she flushed the nipple down the toilet. [Eek!] :shudder:

Even aside from the other reasons you mentioned about why such a call should not be believed, why would she do it if she thought the guy wanted to hear her scream? My mind just boggles at people believing this stuff. This guy is so sick. I feel sick to my stomach reading this stuff *shudder*
Oh, sorry for the mental shorthand. She was actually in the process of cutting her nipple off when he was telling her, repeatedly, that it was okay if she needed to scream. She said that he said it so often that it got her thinking that he wanted to hear her screams. But dunno if that was an "after the fact" conclusion, or something that went through her mind as she was doing it.

And yeah... I shudder on a deep and primal level when I think of this thing.

(Reading the document on Smoking Gun, the woman I was talking about sounded an awful lot like #19 on the document. Not sure it was her, tho.)

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quote:
Originally posted by Pseudo_Croat:
I remeber reading about this nutcase in the paper when the news first came out. The first thing that popped into my head was, "How can anyone be so stupid as to follow this man's suggestions?"

If I had recieved one of this perv's calls, I would've found out where he lived and given him a taste of his own medicine. Or at least the temptation would've been strong....

- Pseudo_Croat

Yeah... *69 leaps to mind. Does this work for blocked numbers? Even so, I would think the phone company would have (or could easily find) records of where these calls were coming from.

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quote:
Originally posted by Cervus:
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Originally posted by Troberg:
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If a stranger calls you on the phone and tells you to remove your panties and shove a knife up your vagina or cut off your nipple, and you do so, then yes, you are responsible for your own actions.
I agree, but this does not in any way remove any responsibility from the sicko who got them to do it.
I agree that the man should be criminally charged. However, I was responding to TGirl's question of how it's the woman's fault. It wasn't their fault that he chose to target them, but it was their decision to follow the ludicrous advice of a stranger on the telephone.
They were young and he was relying on the fact that young women are conditioned to listen to authority, particularly male authority.

It was not wise, but I still think more of the blame should be assigned to the predator rather than the prey.

I once had a doctor give me actual advice that would have likely led to a bladder infection had I followed it. I found out by talking to other women about her that she was actually giving harmful advice and painful treatments to young women who were sexually active. I didn't follow her advice at the time because it was inconvenient. But I was naive enough to believe her. I shudder to think what the treatment for the bladder infection would have been.

Now this is different than shoving a knife up your lovliness to be sure. But the stuff with the caustic chemicals? I dunno.

The reason this was prosecuted as assault is assault is simply the credible threat of physical harm, by the way. Actually attacking someone is considered battery.

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There's a difference between going to an actual doctor and being given deliberately damaging advice and following the advice of someone randomly calling you. Again, not saying the guy here shouldn't be prosecuted or that the girls are entirely (or even mainly) at fault, but still find it strange that anyone would agree to remove part of their own anatomy on the basis of a phone call.

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quote:
Originally posted by TurquoiseGirl:
I once had a doctor give me actual advice that would have likely led to a bladder infection had I followed it. I found out by talking to other women about her that she was actually giving harmful advice and painful treatments to young women who were sexually active. I didn't follow her advice at the time because it was inconvenient. But I was naive enough to believe her. I shudder to think what the treatment for the bladder infection would have been.

A bladder infection is the same thing as a urinary tract infection, the treatment for which is a course of antibiotics. While it's true that UTIs make you feel like you're trying to piss a razorblade, they're really not that big a deal from a global health perspective. What "painful treatments" was this doctor giving to her patients? As an unfortunate lass who is prone to them, I can't imagine much in the way of believable treatment that's worse than the UTI itself.

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Originally posted by HazyCosmicJive:
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Originally posted by TurquoiseGirl:
I once had a doctor give me actual advice that would have likely led to a bladder infection had I followed it. I found out by talking to other women about her that she was actually giving harmful advice and painful treatments to young women who were sexually active. I didn't follow her advice at the time because it was inconvenient. But I was naive enough to believe her. I shudder to think what the treatment for the bladder infection would have been.

A bladder infection is the same thing as a urinary tract infection, the treatment for which is a course of antibiotics. While it's true that UTIs make you feel like you're trying to piss a razorblade, they're really not that big a deal from a global health perspective. What "painful treatments" was this doctor giving to her patients? As an unfortunate lass who is prone to them, I can't imagine much in the way of believable treatment that's worse than the UTI itself.
Well since I never got the UTI, having ignored her advice, I can't say what she would have done.

She "diagnosed" a friend of mine with genital warts and recommended burning them off with nitric acid. My friend got a second opinion and did not, in fact, have warts.

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quote:
Originally posted by TurquoiseGirl:
Well since I never got the UTI, having ignored her advice, I can't say what she would have done.

She "diagnosed" a friend of mine with genital warts and recommended burning them off with nitric acid. My friend got a second opinion and did not, in fact, have warts.

Wow. After giving out advice like that, I'd be surprised if she hasn't lost her medical license by now. She sounds like she almost as much of a nut as the guy in the OP.

This is why it's always a good idea to seek a second opinion. When it comes to your body, you have only one, and you should take good care of it.

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Yeah, TG, I definitely hope that somebody has reported this doctor. This sounds like gross negligence!

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