quote:Originally posted by LittleDuck: For the record, I don't think most of the "lesbians" in porn films are "true lesbians" (in that they exclusively are with women) off set.
What? That's some kind of sick joke, right? You're kidding, right???
Anyway, surely there must be an untapped market for really good erotic films. The whole sex thing is so complex emotionally (and physically, I guess) you'd think a good well-funded director could make some well done NC-17 movies that would have broad commercial appeal. Right?
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quote:Originally posted by Communication Attempt: British porn is freaky though.
If you think that's freaky, then you should avoid Japanese porn at all costs. The women are either weird zombie/blow-up doll-like creatures or schoolgirls who can't stop giggling. And when the Japanese get kinky, they go for it like no others. I've never seen a Westerner snorting cum through a clear plastic tube. Rather wish I'd not seen a Japanese girl do it, truth be told.
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quote:Originally posted by trollface: If you think that's freaky, then you should avoid Japanese porn at all costs. The women are either weird zombie/blow-up doll-like creatures or schoolgirls who can't stop giggling. And when the Japanese get kinky, they go for it like no others. I've never seen a Westerner snorting cum through a clear plastic tube. Rather wish I'd not seen a Japanese girl do it, truth be told.
Japanese porn surely comes in as many (or more) varieties as American... it's not all weird/kinky. There is some excellent and creative "vanilla" stuff coming from there.
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I stand by my "zombie or schoolgirl" comment. I mean, I don't think I've once seen a Japanese porn film where the girl didn't look either like she didn't have a clue what she was doing and why and wasn't particularly bothered either way, or like it was the funniest thing since Christmas.
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German porn director John Thompson creats some very interesting cum movies.
umm... that was what I had heard anyway...
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quote:Originally posted by Karmyn: Girl-girl porn has gotten boring,...
You are kidding......right?
As a girl, no I'm not kidding. I'd be thrilled if two men decided to go down on each other before hetero sex. Two women? Boring. Am I the female stereotypical male?
Judy
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quote:Originally posted by musicgeek: "My reaction to porno films is as follows: After the first 10 minutes I want to go home and screw. After the first 20 minutes, I never want to screw again as long as I live."
-Erica Jong, author of "Fear of Flying"
Al Franken in one of his books cites a statistic he claims to have gotten from a friend of his in the hotel industry (no idea if there's any truth to it): (1) That 60% of the pay-per-view movie rentals in hotels are porn, and (2) that the average time the films are actually watched is eleven minutes. "That," says Franken, "is my favorite statistic in life." (The presumption of course being that the horny business traveller orders up the film and watches it just long enough to...take care of himself.)
I've never been much of a fan of porn films, myself; I prefer decently well-written porn, meaning the author can actually put sentances together (and knows that it's ok to put more than one sentance in a paragraph) and spends most of its time setting up the situation and the characters, rather than being five uninterrupted pages of "AHHHHHHH! ohgod ohgod ohgod." *groan* *moan* *squirm* *writhe* etc. I want something that stimulates my own fantasies and that I can identify with. (Girl-girl porn is still fine since I can easily visualize myself as one of the girls...)
Edit the following day: I looked it up and the statistics Franken cites (in Lies and the Lying Liars who Tell Them) are actually 65% and twelve minutes. Just for the sake of accuracy.
quote:Originally posted by ddaq89: German porn director John Thompson creats some very interesting cum movies.
umm... that was what I had heard anyway...
[hijack]Finally! There was this short clip I saw a long time ago... I figured there should be more of the same kind out there... My quest is over![/hijack]
quote:Originally posted by Communication Attempt: British porn is freaky though.
If you think that's freaky, then you should avoid Japanese porn at all costs. The women are either weird zombie/blow-up doll-like creatures or schoolgirls who can't stop giggling. And when the Japanese get kinky, they go for it like no others. I've never seen a Westerner snorting cum through a clear plastic tube. Rather wish I'd not seen a Japanese girl do it, truth be told.
Hmm,some japanese porn is actually tasteful.The only thing that bothers me is that the girls always sound like they're being raped,even when they say they enjoy it.
Of course,the japanese's version of harcore porn differs greatly from the american version lol.
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quote:Originally posted by Communication Attempt:
quote:Originally posted by trollface:
quote:Originally posted by Communication Attempt: British porn is freaky though.
If you think that's freaky, then you should avoid Japanese porn at all costs. The women are either weird zombie/blow-up doll-like creatures or schoolgirls who can't stop giggling. And when the Japanese get kinky, they go for it like no others. I've never seen a Westerner snorting cum through a clear plastic tube. Rather wish I'd not seen a Japanese girl do it, truth be told.
Hmm,some japanese porn is actually tasteful.
Very true. And most pinku eiga are very good.
quote:The only thing that bothers me is that the girls always sound like they're being raped,even when they say they enjoy it.
Not so much anymore if the handful of newer ones I've seen are any indication of a general trend.
quote:Of course,the japanese's version of harcore porn differs greatly from the american version lol.
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quote:Originally posted by RangerDog:
quote:Originally posted by Karmyn: Girl-girl porn has gotten boring,...
You are kidding......right?
As a girl, no I'm not kidding. I'd be thrilled if two men decided to go down on each other before hetero sex. Two women? Boring. Am I the female stereotypical male?
Judy
Get "bi" porn. When there are two bisexual guys and a girl, the porn is classified as bi, if there are two bisexual women and a guy, the porn is "straight."
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As my gay uncle says, there's only so many things two girls can do to each other. I'm not into male/male. Just doesn't appeal to me. I'm just too cynical and analytical to enjoy porn anymore. I also can't spell.
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quote:Originally posted by Echinodermata Q. Taft: Al Franken in one of his books cites a statistic he claims to have gotten from a friend of his in the hotel industry (no idea if there's any truth to it): (1) That 60% of the pay-per-view movie rentals in hotels are porn, and (2) that the average time the films are actually watched is eleven minutes. "That," says Franken, "is my favorite statistic in life." (The presumption of course being that the horny business traveller orders up the film and watches it just long enough to...take care of himself.)
Exactly. And that is WHY there are no plots to most porn. Porn is NOT entertainment, it is PREPARATION . . . and if you need more than ten minutes (or I guess eleven is the average) to *get prepared* then you have had too much beer.
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ever since I got highspeed internet, I've never needed a full porn movie, like a rental, or an old stashed away video tape. I like a little now and then like most guys, but now with the internet, just go to a site and find the videoclip you need or like, go to town for ten minutes and carry on with your day. These days, there's not even a need in porn for the thin plots they had in the past!
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...and yet I hate videos that are just clips of people having sex with no context whatsoever... call me a plot hound Posts: 418 | From: New Port Richey, FL | Registered: Apr 2005
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Porn=fun with fast forward or rewind.
Watching someone vaccuming up the money shot in an old porn can be hilarious, after a suitable number of beers that is...
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quote:Originally posted by Jacob's Child: As a girl, no I'm not kidding. I'd be thrilled if two men decided to go down on each other before hetero sex. Two women? Boring. Am I the female stereotypical male?
Judy
Get "bi" porn. When there are two bisexual guys and a girl, the porn is classified as bi, if there are two bisexual women and a guy, the porn is "straight." [/QB]
You're dead right, I suspect, but to be brutally honest, I'm not sure I have the guts to go rent porn in a video store. Which means I'm stuck with what TMN shows late at night, which is pretty standard (if hardcore) porn. My problem, I'll deal with it
Judy
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Good Vibrations has an online rental service. I've used it many times and it's really easy. Check into it. They rent all kinds of porn, plus educational sex videos. www.goodvibes.com
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quote:Originally posted by Jacob's Child: As a girl, no I'm not kidding. I'd be thrilled if two men decided to go down on each other before hetero sex. Two women? Boring. Am I the female stereotypical male?
Judy
Get "bi" porn. When there are two bisexual guys and a girl, the porn is classified as bi, if there are two bisexual women and a guy, the porn is "straight."
You're dead right, I suspect, but to be brutally honest, I'm not sure I have the guts to go rent porn in a video store. Which means I'm stuck with what TMN shows late at night, which is pretty standard (if hardcore) porn. My problem, I'll deal with it
Judy [/QB]
Honestly, I think it's easier to do it in a specialized video store. Everybody in there is looking for the same kind of thing. Apart from what's on the shelves, it's very much like any other video store, and the clerk isn't a 15 years old who will wish you a "good evening" with a half-amused smirk. The most difficult part is to go through the door the first time.
I found some online adult DVD rentals that carry the titles I'd be interested in, but alas they all ship to USA only. I only found two sites for Canada yesterday in a half hour search, and they don't carry what I want (one of them in particular had a particularly crappy selection). *sigh*
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I think all my "porn" is actually more plot than sex.
In fact, I'm scratching my head and thinking about it... I don't think I actually have a hardcore movie at all. We've got 'Story of O', 'Preaching to the Perverted' and 'The Secretary' in our collection. I think there is one more but I don't recall the name of it at the moment.
I think there was a hardcore cut of 'Story of O'? Whatever the case, the one we've got is definitely soft.
The only one that doesn't have any plot also doesn't involve sex, just naked women. The "Nude Tai Chi" exercise video was just too funny to pass up. My wife and I spotted it in a shopping centre "clearance sale" type bin and had a laugh. When we spotted it in an entirely different discount bin at a different shopping centre we decided fate wanted us to buy it.
It is almost surreal... the ladies performing the Tai Chi appear to know what they're doing so it's not like they were "nude models" roped into doing it and given last minute instructions on what to do. I also fail to grasp exactly what audience this was supposed to cater to (I guess that is probably why it was in the discount bin).
The only videos I have of sexual acts are in my collection of weird videos I've downloaded. For the most part they don't actually excite me as they are more for the "Hahaha... people actually do that?" factor.
I used to have a collection of porn videos (well, like 3 or so) when I was younger but I discarded them some time ago.
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quote:Originally posted by Salamander: It is almost surreal... the ladies performing the Tai Chi appear to know what they're doing so it's not like they were "nude models" roped into doing it and given last minute instructions on what to do. I also fail to grasp exactly what audience this was supposed to cater to (I guess that is probably why it was in the discount bin).
The indended audience? I think that can be figured out...
A) People that watch female martial arts performers and think "Gee, I'd love to see her naked" ... I'm sure there are plenty of them out there... I knew one in fact, who was part of my Kung Fu class. Our instructor brought a video camera to a tournament so we could study the footage later. At some point my friend got a hold of the camera and the typical content... changed, shall we say. It wound up pointing at certain members of the audience as much as at the performers
B) People that see the cover and say "What the hell is that?" and buy it (you)
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if your truely bored of conventional porn, you should check out www.beautifulagony.com. Very erotic , sexy stuff, but no actual pornishness about it.
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That website demonstrates why I'm getting bored with porn. A lot of those people looked like they were not enjoying themselves. If the people in the porno aren't having fun, how can I?
Is that one guy wearing a hat?
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quote:Originally Posted by: Jacob's Child: As a girl, no I'm not kidding. I'd be thrilled if two men decided to go down on each other before hetero sex. Two women? Boring. Am I the female stereotypical male?
I call myself that all the time. I love guy on guy porn, and I probably would like m/f porn if it wasn't so focused on the girl (or if the guys were more attractive). I never thought of Bi (thanks!).
To go back to the OP, my SO will not watch porn. He thinks the people in them are disgusting. That said, I like a good non-plotish show every once and a while
Strawberries "going out to the video store now..." 'n Sugar
quote:Originally posted by naharnahekim: if your truely bored of conventional porn, you should check out www.beautifulagony.com. Very erotic , sexy stuff, but no actual pornishness about it.
Wow, that's actually... sort of... hot. O_O;
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quote:Originally posted by Jacob's Child: Why can't they ever find any good looking men with huge penises?
Judy
because I'm too shy.
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Ok, I realize I'm way late here, but I just have to say...how can anyone find girl on girl porn boring?
My only real issue is that they usually have ridiculous amounts of makeup on. If I could find actual lesbian porn I think I'd be much happier. Or at least girl on girl porn that doesn't have the girls dressed up looking like freaks.
Hmmm now that makes me wonder...how can one find real lesbian porn? I kinda get tired of watching two straight women fake it. Blah.
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Yup, real lesbian porn does exist, but you'll have to show your lesbian I. D. before getting hold of it.
My favourite is the movie Madam and Eve- I think it's British, not at all easy to find, but jolly good fun. There's also the more artsy, slightly S/M stuff Maria Beatty does. Fatale media is specialised in real lesbian porn, as is the (glossy) newspaper On Our Backs, if you want to see more.
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For anything girl related and porn-friendly, try babeland.com (I just linked it in another thread)- I was in their SoHo boutique on Friday, and it was lovely, not-at-all-seedy, and had a female-friendly vibe (no pun intended) with lots of girls (straight) shopping together. All their erotica is female-focused, and there's a strong (but not exclusive) lesbian presence.
I personally only like the boy/boy slash myself...
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I've become quite a fan of Beautiful Agony (NSF/NFBSK), a site that is dedicated to, off all things, the look on people's faces at the moment of climax.
Part niche adult site, part existential art project, this site is in a very odd way both erotic and sad all while being very beautiful.
There is no intercourse, no nudity, barely any foul language, very little dialogue at all in fact. All the videos are submitted by totally voluntary amatuers, so this is one site without any pretense of exploitation. Both genders (although there is a pretty heavy female to male ration, they are still a fair number of men), all races, and more body styles and "looks" are represented then in any mainstream pornography.
Practically all the videos are around 5 minutes long, and show a person's face as they masturbate to climax. Very few of the people are "showing off" (although to be fair a few are obviously hamming it up for the camera, but they are the exception) and what were are left with is a brief glimpse into a very personal act that manages to... really be soul stirring.
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I don't look at porn, but if I did, I'd probably go to The Hun to do so. Somebody told me that he updates his site daily with a long list of links. The information comes from a friend of a friend, of course.
My boyfriend gets this really weird look on his face, like he's a little kid on the top of a high roller coaster just at the point before the roller coaster plummets down a steep drop. It's a look of fearful anticipation. What bothers me is that it's an almost "scared" look. Since he's the only guy I've ever been with, I always worry that I'm doing something wrong or hurting him. But he's never said anything about it.
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