I have no idea what caused the damage shown in the photo, but I doubt an electric fence was involved. What cash-strapped farmer would install a fence with the potential to cause such damage to his livestock?
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Electric fences use voltages from 2000V to 10,000V - and they typically use a pulsed supply which sends a brief high-voltage pulse (rather than a sustained voltage) through a step-up and charging circuit. Many electric fences are run from a 12V car battery with a solar panel to recharge it.
It is possible, though impractical to take the typical 3-phase distribution at a farm or ranch (which is at 480V in the US, 600V in Canada), use a step-up transformer to get to the 2kV-10kV range, and just let it stay on all the time. However, keeping continuous voltage on the animal doesn't have the effect that you want - the electric fence is designed to keep the animal safe (i.e. inside the fence). Leaving the current on will barbecue the animal - not what you want.
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quote:Originally posted by Troberg: Looks more like infection/necrosis than burning.
Frostbite perhaps?
(ETA: As already mentioned by Charmed I'm Sure)
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Mythbusters did the pissing on the 3rd rail. I don't think they did electric fences... but to be fair, it's not like I've seen every single episode of Mythbusters. They found that, especially the longer the stream of urine was, the more it degenerated into a bunch of droplets rather than a solid stream. While urine itself is an excellent conductor, it was impossible for an electrical current to jump across the droplets to cause a person harm.
This picture may well be real, but other posters have already offered a number of other more plausible conditions that it could be.
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quote:Originally posted by Purple Iguana: Mythbusters did the pissing on the 3rd rail. I don't think they did electric fences...
They did use an electric fence on a revisit and found that it did shock you but no real harm done.
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Perhaps, but how the hell do you get frostbite there?
It reminds me of the old joke:
"Have you heard about the guy who dated an Eskimo girl? She broke it off."
It's definately not an electric fence, they don't pack that punch. A friend of mine made that mistake, and he has had two sons since. If it's electricity, it's something else, such as a power line for trains running under a bridge, but I don't believe that either. The damage is just too local for a current that will go through the entire lower body.
Could it be torture damage? Some sick effer that just took a blowtorch to it?
Is it possible that we are not even looking at what we think we are looking at? It's not like we are seeing a lot of the surrounding areas. What does an infected navel slipknot look like? A burned finger? Could it even be something like an injured finger covered in something to help it heal, I remember an accident with a rotary knife here recently where some blackish substance was put on the injury.
Are we even sure it's human?
And what is the metal thingy? It doesn't look like some kind of medical pliers, it looks more like it's hooked through it.
Edit: Regarding frostbite, I saw a documentary recently about arctic/antarctic exploration, and they said that if your hands go numb, the warmest places to put them is in the armpits or the crotch. I think I've heard Ray Mears say the same. I really don't see how you could get that frostbite without freezing to death.
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It could be a botched circumcision. I read a book called As Nature Made Him about a Canadian boy raised as a girl after his circumcision went wrong. The doctor used an electrocautery needle and accidentally burned his penis, causing it to look something like this picture before falling off completely a few days later.
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quote: Before you let it flow Find a place to go Just don't whiz on the electric fence
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To anyone who has worked around electric fences, they know that the normal farm application tingles to the touch and that is about it. It does not take much to get most livestock to back away. They just find it uncomfortable, and for the most part the patch of grass 2 feet away is just as good to them.
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quote:To anyone who has worked around electric fences, they know that the normal farm application tingles to the touch and that is about it.
So I learned when I was kid. Until the day I grabbed the fence wire with both hands and got a whopping good jolt. I thought my heart was going to stop.
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Wow. Um, can I just point out that the forums page only shows this topic as "Don't piss on an electric.."? It would help if NFBSK or NSFW was before the rest of the subject. Or link the image.
It most certainly is not a finger. It is what we think it is, but as to why it is like it is, I dunno.
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"Don't piss on an electric..." is actually a pretty good clue that it might NFBSK and NSFW. At the very least it was obviously going to be about urination.
It should also be a given to assume that any thread in the Fauxtography forum will have images. Extra care should always be taken before opening a thread you know will have images, such as making sure you know the full subject line before clicking on the thread, particularly at work or with children around.
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Not to mention that (NFBSK) is listed in the topic title. Perhaps not first, but it is there and has been since the thread began.
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quote:To anyone who has worked around electric fences, they know that the normal farm application tingles to the touch and that is about it.
So I learned when I was kid. Until the day I grabbed the fence wire with both hands and got a whopping good jolt. I thought my heart was going to stop.
- snopes
Yeah, maybe things have changed, but some 20 or so years ago, I remember some older girls telling me to go grab this fence. I didn't know it was an electric fence and grabbed a good fistful of wire. What happened to my vision could be best described as a TV's vertical hold going haywire... and I kinda felt like I got hit by a truck wrapped in foam (a great wallop, but without feeling battered). When I let go, they were laughing at me. Yep... that was life in bumblef**k rural Illinois.
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quote:Originally posted by Freshman: Wouldn't it be thicker?
You know how meat shrinks when you cook it?
Oh DOYC *shudder* but I laughed too, Jenn.
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Strangers, add me in on the earworm list. I'm gonna have to dig out my Ren and Stimpy DVDs to watch that episode now.
I truly believe it is a penis - and an adult one at that. You can see where it was shaved. I'm in the group that thinks its probably a nasty infection that has eaten away at the flesh and whatnot.
One word... NASTY!
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I have to join the list of posters who have first hand experience with an electric fence. As a child I was jolted many times trying to pass between the two strands of our fencing.
TMI
I even pissed on one (not intentionally) . I felt a jolt about were you would expect. No harm done though. That was over thirty years ago and I now have a fine fifteen year old son.
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I vote false. My golf club adjoins farmland and I've seen many a player *relieve* himself close to the wire and never saw anything like the reaction in the OP. Still, I'll be watching myself in future.
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quote:Yeah, maybe things have changed, but some 20 or so years ago, I remember some older girls telling me to go grab this fence. I didn't know it was an electric fence and grabbed a good fistful of wire. What happened to my vision could be best described as a TV's vertical hold going haywire... and I kinda felt like I got hit by a truck wrapped in foam (a great wallop, but without feeling battered). When I let go, they were laughing at me. Yep... that was life in bumblef**k rural Illinois.
Sure, it'll make you jump, but from jump to fry is a big difference. A current that fried it like that would not stop neatly like that, it would go all the way to the feet.
The only way I can imagine a result like that from electrical causes (and I do not like imagining results like that) is if some Darwin award candidate experimented with a metallic ring around the base and another electrode at the tip and passing some serious current through beween them. If so, it was either involontary (torture) or someone really stupid with a setup that was difficult to turn off (ie the wires did not yank out when he fell over).
Either way, it's amazing he is alive.
quote:you could be right about that, but there's hair on the skin. I can't tell what the hell that body part may be
Some people have hair around their knuckles. It could be a finger that has got stuck in some machine or somethinh and has got most of the skin shredded so that it's almost only bone left. The black may be some artificial substance that has been put there as a bandage.
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quote:Originally posted by Freshman: Wouldn't it be thicker?
You know how meat shrinks when you cook it?
And I saw a concert viedo of Rammstein singing Mein Teil yesterday night. How very appropriate.
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I have, in fact, taken a whizz on an electric fence. Nothing at all happened. Not even a jolt.
I've accidentally brushed against a couple of them when climbing between the wires and, while you get a shock from them that can knock you over, there's no heat to them.
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quote:Yeah, maybe things have changed, but some 20 or so years ago, I remember some older girls telling me to go grab this fence. I didn't know it was an electric fence and grabbed a good fistful of wire. What happened to my vision could be best described as a TV's vertical hold going haywire... and I kinda felt like I got hit by a truck wrapped in foam (a great wallop, but without feeling battered). When I let go, they were laughing at me. Yep... that was life in bumblef**k rural Illinois.
Sure, it'll make you jump, but from jump to fry is a big difference. A current that fried it like that would not stop neatly like that, it would go all the way to the feet.
Oh, sorry, I wasn't trying to suggest that it could fry you, but one poster said you get a tingle and that's all. My experience was something much stronger than a tingle.
Unless they meant that all the livestock feel is a tingle.
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I want to agree with whoever it was that suggested frostbite - especially now that I can see it as potentially a thumb. This picture from this site shows that frostbite can look a lot like a burn.
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Chris "Raab Himself" Raab (of CKY/Viva La Bam fame) peed on an electric fence once... I don't think it did any lasting damage, except that it made him cry.
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quote:Originally posted by glisp42: It looks more like a thumb to me than anything else.
you could be right about that, but there's hair on the skin. I can't tell what the hell that body part may be
Wouldn't there still be a nail if it were a thumb? The skin at the underside looked to me to be the beginning(?) of the scrotum. The wrinkles and skin don't appear to be that of the web of a hand. And to me the hair stubble looks more like a penisy area than a knuckle area.
Perhaps it was a drunk and/or homless person who took a leak out in the cold and passed out before putting Peter back where he belonged?
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When I was about 14, I peed on an electric fence. I was told by the owner (my buddy's dad) that it was as powerful as you can/should get for keeping livestock inside.
I can say that I saw Jesus that day.
When I could finally think straight, I found myself on my back, and that I had continued to pee... all over myself.
Other than a horribly injured ego, I had no lasting injuries. I still have a winkie and seventeen testicles...
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