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Comment: I’ve seen this photo several times on the net. I’ve been unsuccessful in finding the paper or magazine that it was printed in originally.


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It looks like it's from the UK 'lad mag' Nuts.

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I vote fake, simply because i don't think that if she was expelling urine it would come out of the suit in such a fasion. For somebody wearing somthing like that I wouldn't think it would have so much arch. Could it possibly be sweat from her leg?

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That's what I thought. Besides, there's no dark spot on her leotard. I would also expect urine to fall downward, not in an arc.
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I do not think it is real, but I don't think you could see the area of darkness from that angle, and since it is being propelled, not just falling, it would flow in an arc. I agree with Turban Man, I think that the fabric of the suit would disrupt to stream, or just hold it in place.

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My verdict: Real incident, but photoshopped picture. Lacking a clear photo of her wet moment, someone took a stock photo of her and photoshopped the stream onto it. Note that she's wearing a different outfit in the small inset picture, lending credence to this theory. The above pic is too grainy to discern any photoshop artifacts, though.

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quote:
Originally posted by Grand Illusion:
My verdict: Real incident, but photoshopped picture. Lacking a clear photo of her wet moment, someone took a stock photo of her and photoshopped the stream onto it. Note that she's wearing a different outfit in the small inset picture, lending credence to this theory. The above pic is too grainy to discern any photoshop artifacts, though.

First you need to prove it's even a real incident. Someone above said that it was a 'lad's mag', and from my experience they aren't the most reliable source of information. If you could find other articles talking about it, maybe then you could prove whether it was a real or faked picture.

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Wikipedia:

A photo of Le Pennec taken on vault at the 2005 World Championships and published by Getty Images was the subject of controversy late in the year. The photo appears to depict Le Pennec having an episode of incontinence in the middle of her vault. However, the image captured in the picture is inconclusive, the incident has never been substantiated by any reliable source, other photographs, video footage or eyewitness accounts, and neither Le Pennec nor the French Federation have commented on the matter. Nonetheless, the photo has appeared on various Internet sites and in a British tabloid magazine.

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The 'droplets' look like lights further back in the stadium to me.
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Everything else aside, is it even possible to pee in a situation like that?

I'm a man, so I know little of how this works for women, but unless I really, really, absolutely have to go right now, some conscious pushing is needed by muscles that are not used for anything else (except for holding back an orgasm, but that's not applicable here) and would not get involved in gymnastics. I assume that if she really, really, absolutely needed to go, she would have done it before the event, as it's bloody difficult to do anything at all in that state, especially gymnastics.

Are women so completely different wired down there?

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quote:
Originally posted by Troberg:
Everything else aside, is it even possible to pee in a situation like that?

I'm a man, so I know little of how this works for women, but unless I really, really, absolutely have to go right now, some conscious pushing is needed by muscles that are not used for anything else (except for holding back an orgasm, but that's not applicable here) and would not get involved in gymnastics. I assume that if she really, really, absolutely needed to go, she would have done it before the event, as it's bloody difficult to do anything at all in that state, especially gymnastics.

Are women so completely different wired down there?

Aha! I can answer this because of a conversation I had not so long ago.

Apparently women are completely 'backwards' in that respect - they actually need to relax their muscles in order to go.

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quote:
Originally posted by hudders:
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Originally posted by Troberg:
Everything else aside, is it even possible to pee in a situation like that?

I'm a man, so I know little of how this works for women, but unless I really, really, absolutely have to go right now, some conscious pushing is needed by muscles that are not used for anything else (except for holding back an orgasm, but that's not applicable here) and would not get involved in gymnastics. I assume that if she really, really, absolutely needed to go, she would have done it before the event, as it's bloody difficult to do anything at all in that state, especially gymnastics.

Are women so completely different wired down there?

Aha! I can answer this because of a conversation I had not so long ago.

Apparently women are completely 'backwards' in that respect - they actually need to relax their muscles in order to go.

"Backwards" is a matter of opinion. [Wink]
Thinking about the anatomical question, you're right that usually, relaxing relevant muscles is needed for a woman (exceptions include extremely full bladder, when it takes conscious effort to not let go, bladder infection, etc., at least for me). I wasn't aware that worked differently for men.

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I don't know about that -- I'm a guy and it sure feels like relaxing muscles is the way it works for me, although it's a little unclear.
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Shit, I must be a bloke. It's a lot more than just relaxing muscles where I'm concerned.

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Looks real enough to me, see how streched and taught her stomach muscles are!

and she's doing a crazy back flip thing (technical term)

result, wee squeezed out through suit.

There are plenty of *ahem* specialist websites that can cite examples of wee through clothing patterns, there is nothing amiss there!

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There are two sets of muscles we're talking about, those around the bladder which contract and the sphincter-type muscles that relax to allow the urine to pass through.

IIRC, in women it is enough to relax the sphincter muscle, whereas in men the urine has to be squeezed past the prostate gland.

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I've made some tests now. I had some laundry to do, so I took a T-shirt and directed a strong stream of water at it (OK, it may have less scientific value when it's not pee. Live with it).

Result?

Unless she has a firehose in there, there is no way she could get such a stream through the fabric. It was somewhat possible to get something like that when the fabric was soaked and hung down so that gravity just pulled the water through it, but even so, it gathered in a puddle in the fabric.

I challenge anyone to do something like the image using only bladder power.

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Challenge accepted...

By the way, did you have the source of your liquit pressed against the fabric or were you just pouring water at it?


Here are some examples that are NSFW and NFBSK containing images of fetish knicker wetting...

(that's not a sentence I type every day!!)

2 mild examples

there are many more graphic ones if you care to look.

Besides a Gymnast at the top of her field will have unbelievably powerful abdominal muscles, and could probably pee though a steel plate if you ask nicely enough!

and if it is from Getty Images, they are a very reliable source...

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Finally this story serves a higher purpose than inclusion in a "weird shit that happened" conversation with my friends.

When I was 13 I stayed the night at a new friend's house. I wasn't aware that she had a weak bladder, I said something amazingly hilarious, she laughed very hard and peed her pants. The stream shot through her jeans, and though she was standing there was a bit of an arc.

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What was it that you said to make her wee with such force???!

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Yikes, this story is pretty NFBSK, so I guess I'll write some jibber jabber up here to block it from Active Topics.

She asked if I wanted to see soemthing cool. Being 13 I of course did want to see something cool. She ran to her mother's room and returned with a huge, realistic penis and testacles dildo, swung it around by the shaft and threw it. It landed hard on the floor and stayed, due to the suction cup on the bottom. since it was so long it swung around a little and finally bent, pointing in her direction. Stunned, I said "It's looking at you" which upon reflection isn't that funny at all, so I guess you had to be there.

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hahahahahaha

I have just weed myself now!

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Do you have photographic evidence?

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quote:
Originally posted by Grand Illusion:
Note that she's wearing a different outfit in the small inset picture, lending credence to this theory.

I'm sure when they're done their event, they put on the tight jacket she's wearing in the small photo to keep warm in the stadium.

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am i seriously the only person who thought it could possibly be sweat?
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quote:
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am i seriously the only person who thought it could possibly be sweat?

That looked pretty yellow to be sweat, IMO.
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quote:
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Originally posted by alicia:
am i seriously the only person who thought it could possibly be sweat?

That looked pretty yellow to be sweat, IMO.
Yes, you can really tell the yellow color of the original liquid from a scanned version of a reprinted photo. [Roll Eyes] Not really. It looks like it could be sweat... or just something out of focus in the background.
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quote:
Originally posted by Troberg:
Everything else aside, is it even possible to pee in a situation like that?

For some people, getting nervous results in a need to eliminate waste.

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quote:
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just something out of focus in the background.

Which is where my vote ultimately goes, discussions about urinary incontinence aside. [Big Grin]
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Her clothing appears to be drenched with seat. So I think there's plenty of it there to sprinkle around a bit. I'm going with the sweat theory. Of course, if it is pee, what an incredibly intersting story this is... not.
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Unbroken got it right on the 2nd post to this thread. This pic and article is from a UK lad's mag, and is therefore probably not fake, but the sentiment probably is.

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I feel sorry for the girl, isn't she like 17 or 18? No matter if the photo is fake or not, it can't be fun having a big pic like that in a magazine.
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Here's the original picture, since the magazine scan isn't such high quality.
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It was posted at Getty Images (it is still up on GI, so click here to see.) back in November and has been discussed quite a bit on gymnastics message boards. Some say it could be rhinestones from her leotard, some say it could be something in the stands in the background... a lot of people, myself included, believe that it is exactly what it looks like. Unfortunately, this picture was taken during a competition that there are no known videos of so we can't know what really happened.

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I don't think it's something in the stand. It's not blurred enough. Her feet are blurred more.

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Stress Incontinence.

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