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Bug Muldoon
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Now I know these type of vehicles (ie, massive tracked excavation vehicles) exist as semi-mobile mining equipment, but I'm not at all convinced that this is real - it looks way to big, and I don't think these are supposed to cross roads.

As an aside, has anyone got (a link to) information about large mining vehicles ?

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I remember seeing something like this on Modern Marvels on the tube. It was used in mining and was located in Germany. They moved it from one loncation to another and had to relocate power, water and sewer lines all along the route. Since it moved very slowly (1-2 mph?) it took a while.
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Real or not, I don't know, but these things are huge, so huge that it may very well be real.

Look at the details. The cranes that are part of the construction, the little "house" at the shovels, which I think is the control central, the threads, the platforms above the shovels. Compare it to the people, and the scale looks about right.

Occasionally, even large equipment must be moved. Look at the ground and the bulldozers and how the road "disappears". Probably, the ground has been prepared for the move, including a thick layer of earth/sand/gravel on the road to protect the pavement from the weight.

I vote real.

Either way, impressive machine. I needed something like that when removing a couple of bushes in the garden last summer. I swear, those bushes had roots straight through the earth, with every Chinese hanging on to the eother end with all their might.

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Rhea
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I think I've seen this picture before and I also think it was here on snopes, but I can't find it.

I dimly remember it being real.

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Richard W
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There was another thread about the same photo last year but it seems to have gone... as far as I remember it was a real photo of strip-mining equipment taken somewhere in Germany, as xtargeeter said. Somebody found more pictures of the same thing, but I've not turned them up on a quick Google.

There's a (smaller) one for sale here though, if you're interested!

(edit) Ah, here we are, I think this is it:

http://www.arbeiterfotografie.com/galerie/reportage-2001/index-2001-02-08-braunkohlenbagger.html

It appears that it's being moved (or at least, was photographed) between Hambach and Garzweiler in / near the Ruhr valley. Link taken from this thread.

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Bug Muldoon
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If it's real, I want one for my birthday.

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Don Enrico
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quote:
Originally posted by Richard W:
There was another thread about the same photo last year but it seems to have gone...

It's not gone, it's archived.

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Richard W
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quote:
Originally posted by Bug Muldoon:
If it's real, I want one for my birthday.

If the used one from the UK is too small for you, you can buy a new one from these people, by the looks of things...

(edit) Ah, why didn't I think of looking in the archive?

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quote:
Originally posted by Bug Muldoon:
If it's real, I want one for my birthday.

No you dont, because it turns mountains and streams into this, and this, and this.

Pogue

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quote:
Originally posted by Richard W:
quote:
Originally posted by Bug Muldoon:
If it's real, I want one for my birthday.

If the used one from the UK is too small for you, you can buy a new one from these people, by the looks of things...
Of cause, you can always go for the original ... (NOTE: no online order option)

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Bug Muldoon
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quote:
Originally posted by Pogue Mah-humbug:
quote:
Originally posted by Bug Muldoon:
If it's real, I want one for my birthday.

No you dont, because it turns mountains and streams into this, and this, and this.

Pogue

Who says I'd use it for mining ?

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Don Enrico
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quote:
Originally posted by Pogue Mah-humbug:
quote:
Originally posted by Bug Muldoon:
If it's real, I want one for my birthday.

No you dont, because it turns mountains and streams into this, and this, and this.

Pogue

Actually, a landscape these things have had their teeth in tends to look like that:

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More pictures (before/after/after 're-naturing') here. The page starts with maps showing 10 villages that disappeared in the mining process, scroll down for pictures.

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quote:
Originally posted by Bug Muldoon:
If it's real, I want one for my birthday.

You'd need one damn big bow! [Wink]

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Pogue Ma-humbug
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quote:
Originally posted by Don Enrico:
More pictures (before/after/after 're-naturing') here. The page starts with maps showing 10 villages that disappeared in the mining process, scroll down for pictures.

And the coal company came with the world's largest shovel
And they tortured the timber and stripped all the land
Well, they dug for their coal till the land was forsaken
Then they wrote it all down as the progress of man


Pogue

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quote:
Originally posted by Bug Muldoon:
Who says I'd use it for mining ?

Really, Pogue! That thing is a chick magnet!

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Bug Muldoon
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quote:
Originally posted by Spam & Cookies-mmm:
quote:
Originally posted by Bug Muldoon:
Who says I'd use it for mining ?

Really, Pogue! That thing is a chick magnet!
I was thinking more along the lines of mobile evil headquarters-slash-terror weapon but chick magnet works too.

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quote:
Originally posted by Bug Muldoon:
I was thinking more along the lines of mobile evil headquarters-slash-terror weapon but chick magnet works too.

You could drape it with camouflage netting and nobody would be able to see where your hideout was... and if that didn't work, you could always outrun them!

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quote:
Originally posted by Pogue Mah-humbug:
quote:
Originally posted by Don Enrico:
More pictures (before/after/after 're-naturing') here. The page starts with maps showing 10 villages that disappeared in the mining process, scroll down for pictures.

And the coal company came with the world's largest shovel
And they tortured the timber and stripped all the land
Well, they dug for their coal till the land was forsaken
Then they wrote it all down as the progress of man


Pogue

Damn. Living in Ohio, I'm used to seeing strip mining operations and the moonscapes they create (though to be fair they do make attempts to reclaim the terrain when they're done.) I've never seen entire towns destroyed to make way for a mine, though. If they tried to bulldoze a pretty town like that here, people would be throwing themselves in front of the equipment.

Since I can't read German, can someone explain why these towns were chosen for demolition? Is it just because there just isn't enough "vacant" land left in Germany to mine?

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Don Enrico
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quote:
Originally posted by Horse Chestnut:
Since I can't read German, can someone explain why these towns were chosen for demolition? Is it just because there just isn't enough "vacant" land left in Germany to mine?

Germany isn't very big and quite densly settled, so there actually isn't much "vacant" land at all. More notably, though, there was coal below these villages that was worth mining...

This doesnt happen for mining, only. In the State of Hamburg, the small village of Altenwerder was demolished to make way for a new container shipping terminal, leaving only the (listed) church.

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web page (tomorrow is actually today now)*

Usually in those cases, the mining (or the container handling) company buys the houses and grounds of the inhabitants of the village for very high prices, while the state offers a "new village" with affordable building ground and all the infrastructur already in place (you can see some pictures of the new village on the page I linked in the earlier post). Sometimes some people refuse to sell their houses. Mostly, those will eventually face eminent domain / compulsory purchase.

There have been protests against this kind of "development", but to my knowledge none have been successfull in the end.


*ETA: As you can get from that link, there is the possibility that another village in Hamburg (Neuenfelde) may have to make way for the runway-extension needed (or so the company claims) for the production of the new Airbus 380.

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quote:
Originally posted by Bug Muldoon:
quote:
Originally posted by Spam & Cookies-mmm:
quote:
Originally posted by Bug Muldoon:
Who says I'd use it for mining ?

Really, Pogue! That thing is a chick magnet!
I was thinking more along the lines of mobile evil headquarters-slash-terror weapon but chick magnet works too.
I couln't help but see it as the kind of elaborate model that used to feature in Thunderbirds. I wonder what kind of disaster could befall such a machine...

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quote:
Originally posted by Pogue Mah-humbug:
quote:
Originally posted by Don Enrico:
More pictures (before/after/after 're-naturing') here. The page starts with maps showing 10 villages that disappeared in the mining process, scroll down for pictures.

And the coal company came with the world's largest shovel
And they tortured the timber and stripped all the land
Well, they dug for their coal till the land was forsaken
Then they wrote it all down as the progress of man


Pogue

Quotes Pogue typing on his wind-up laptop pc by the light of a recycled ear-wax candle...

[Razz]

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Pogue Ma-humbug
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quote:
Originally posted by Hans Off:
quote:
Originally posted by Pogue Mah-humbug:
quote:
Originally posted by Don Enrico:
More pictures (before/after/after 're-naturing') here. The page starts with maps showing 10 villages that disappeared in the mining process, scroll down for pictures.

And the coal company came with the world's largest shovel
And they tortured the timber and stripped all the land
Well, they dug for their coal till the land was forsaken
Then they wrote it all down as the progress of man


Pogue

Quotes Pogue typing on his wind-up laptop pc by the light of a recycled ear-wax candle...

[Razz]

My laptop is a direct result of strip mining?

Pogue

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I believe Hans is refering to the power required to run it.

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quote:
Originally posted by Pogue Mah-humbug:
quote:
Originally posted by Hans Off:
quote:
Originally posted by Pogue Mah-humbug:
quote:
Originally posted by Don Enrico:
More pictures (before/after/after 're-naturing') here. The page starts with maps showing 10 villages that disappeared in the mining process, scroll down for pictures.

And the coal company came with the world's largest shovel
And they tortured the timber and stripped all the land
Well, they dug for their coal till the land was forsaken
Then they wrote it all down as the progress of man


Pogue

Quotes Pogue typing on his wind-up laptop pc by the light of a recycled ear-wax candle...

[Razz]

My laptop is a direct result of strip mining?

Pogue

Could be. Arizona is the biggest supplier of copper for the US. All of the copper mines I've seen around here are strip mines. So if your laptop or some of its components were built in the US, then the copper in it probably came from strip mines.

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Yeah is a large bucket wheel extractor, used for strip mining and other large earth moving projects. The scale of these machines can be totally over whelming.

The Bagger 288 manufactored by Krupp, is the one pictured in the OP and is the largest make of bucket wheel in the world.

* Stands over 95 metres tall
* Is over 215 metres long (2.5 football fields)
* Weighs over 45,500 tons (yes that's 45 thousand tons!)
* Cost $100 million USD, took 5 years to design & manufacture and 5 years to assemble
* Only Requires 5 people to operate
* The Bucket Wheel is over 70 feet in diameter with 20 buckets each of which can hold over 15 cubic metres of material. A 6-foot man can stand up inside one of the buckets.
* It moves on 12 crawlers (each is 3.6 metres wide, 2.4 metres high and 14 metres long)
* 8 in front and 4 in back
* Has a maximum speed of 10m/min
* It can remove over 76,455 cubic metres of overburden each day.

The picture linked in the OP is a picture of a Bagger 288 crossing a highway in Germany enroute to a stripmine.
Article with more pictures, translated by Babelfish
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quote:
Originally posted by Pogue Mah-humbug:
quote:
Originally posted by Bug Muldoon:
If it's real, I want one for my birthday.

No you dont, because it turns mountains and streams into this, and this, and this.

Pogue

I agree, simply look at the picture of the surrounding land... awful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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