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http://www.nbc10.com/news/5455548/detail.html

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Emoto is considered a pioneer in water research because of his documentation with ice crystals.

For example he puts distilled water into two bottles -- one labeled war and the other labeled peace. The water is then frozen and, using a powerful microscope in a very cold room, photographs are taken. The war water crystal divided or separated, while the peace crystal was beautiful and balanced.

"You can show the waters some words or let the water listen to music," Emoto said.


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The water is then frozen and, using a powerful microscope in a very cold room, photographs are taken.
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You can also try out Emoto's theories by doing your own experiments.
Yup, I think I'll hook up my scanning electron microscope in my basement ice lab and try it.

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i've heard of something like this before. maybe others have as well...anyways, according to some people, water can "remember" chemicals distilled in it and removed from the water. i think "penn& teller did a show on it.
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it was featured in the documentary "what the bleep do we know?"

very cool stuff. the "love" picture was breathtakinly beautiful.

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Originally posted by robinsonjeffersfan:
i've heard of something like this before. maybe others have as well...anyways, according to some people, water can "remember" chemicals distilled in it and removed from the water.

That's the "theory" behind homeopathic medicine, and as unlikely and experimentally undemonstrable as it is, it's significantly more plausible than the idea that the ice crystals can read the label on the bottle...
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Mr Emoto doesn't claim that the water can read the labels:
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"This doesn't mean that the water can read the words as much as they can feel the vibrations of what the words mean," Emoto said.
That, of course, is bullshit, too.

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Even more like bullshit, really... it's saying the same thing but in longer words. What does he think "reading" means?
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And here I was, hoping for real scientific discoveries about water. It's still not completely understood.

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He says that to try out his theory you can try this experiment:

Place cooked rice in two identical glass containers. Put one cup of rice in one jar and another cup in a separate jar. Talk to the rice every day for one month at the same time each day. Say "thank you" to one jar and say, "you fool" to the other jar.

In his experiment, Emoto found that the rice that was told "thank you" was nearly fermented and had a nice, mellow, malted-rice aroma.

The other bowl of rice that was told, "you fool," turned black, became rotten and smelled disgusting.

[lol] [lol]

I'd really like to try this, just so I could get to say "you fool" every day to a jar of rice.

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I tried that, but I said "snopes" to one bowl and "emoto" to the other. The "emoto" bowl became rotten and disgusting. The snopes bowl was interviewed on a regional radio show.

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If I use Chinese rice, but condemn it in English, will the experiment still work?

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One might wonder what would happen if I where to stick labels in a language I don't understand on the bottles, just printing some Chinese signs. I would not know which was war and which was peace, and the printer that printed the labels would sure as hell don't know.

Would the ice become different?

I say there is some more or less clever sleight of hand or other trickery involved. I suspect that even a few crystals of some suitable salt would account for the difference.

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There's no need for trickery at all. Ice crystals form around any tiny particles in the water. Try an experiment and put a sealed jar of distilled water into the fridge along with an open jar of any old tap water. You might find a few ice crystals in the distilled water (from particles already in the jar, or airborne before the jar was sealed); but the tap water will be teeming with tiny ice crystals.
Mr Emoto has some other odd beliefs as well. For instance, he believes that the bodies of dead wild animals simply disappear into thin air: “Why Corpses of Crows Are Never Found"

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I put my name one one bottle, then "saddam hussein" on the other, and they turned out the same.

Ah well.

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Originally posted by deflowerkid:
it was featured in the documentary "what the bleep do we know?"

Which is the only proof anyone should need that it's a pile of bear crap.

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The Hitler crystal looks way cooler than the Mother Teresa crystal. The Mother Teresa crystal looks like Mother Teresa being killed by umm..I dunno.. Hitler, maybe?

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From the "Why Corpses..." article:
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Crows and birds, wild monkeys, rabbits, moles, snakes, frogs, and all the insects.It would seem quite natural to see their dead bodies everywhere.
This man has never changed a light piece with a few hundred of dead insects. Or given a close look at any window littered with tiny corpses.

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What if you just spoke in sign language to the water or rice?

I've got a sign for you, you bowl of rice....

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quote:
Originally posted by Stoneage Dinosaur:
[QB] [QUOTE]He says that to try out his theory you can try this experiment:

Place cooked rice in two identical glass containers. Put one cup of rice in one jar and another cup in a separate jar. Talk to the rice every day for one month at the same time each day. Say "thank you" to one jar and say, "you fool" to the other jar.

In his experiment, Emoto found that the rice that was told "thank you" was nearly fermented and had a nice, mellow, malted-rice aroma.

The other bowl of rice that was told, "you fool," turned black, became rotten and smelled disgusting.

I guess rice must have really, really delicate feelings. I mean, "You Fool?". Come on, I knew better insults at age 4.

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I think the Mother Theresa one looks a bit like a pig, and the Hitler one a bit like a catfish.

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I'd really like to try this, just so I could get to say "you fool" every day to a jar of rice.

I do say "you fool" to a jar of rice everyday, but for different reasons. Much different reasons.

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Originally posted by Mr. Baggins:
I guess rice must have really, really delicate feelings. I mean, "You Fool?". Come on, I knew better insults at age 4.

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now, what would happen if you were to use false cognates from a foreign language on the jars? would the water know the word was in the foreign language and feel happy, or would it misinterpret it as english and feel fearful, or vice versa?

and what would happen if you were to put a 'bad' word on one jar and a 'worse' one on the other? would you have degrees of decrepitude?

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quote:
Originally posted by Hell's Granny:
There's no need for trickery at all. Ice crystals form around any tiny particles in the water. Try an experiment and put a sealed jar of distilled water into the fridge along with an open jar of any old tap water. You might find a few ice crystals in the distilled water (from particles already in the jar, or airborne before the jar was sealed); but the tap water will be teeming with tiny ice crystals.

Since he looks at the ice crystals through a microscope and apparently displays photographs of them, another explanation might simply be that he uses the same water (eta - in two jars) but looks around each jar until he finds a crystal that fits the appropriate "mood" for that jar. There must be quite a lot of volume to look in, after all.

I haven't seen his work so I don't know whether that explanation would work - depends how much of each jar he shows. That's if any of it deserves an explanation at all.

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What do you think of the work of Masaru Emoto?

My opinion, you ask? The short answer is that I think Mr. Emoto's work is nothing more than the usual New-Age nonsense -- popular gibberish.

http://www.its.caltech.edu/~atomic/snowcrystals/myths/myths.htm
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quote:
Originally posted by Oualawouzou:
From the "Why Corpses..." article:
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Crows and birds, wild monkeys, rabbits, moles, snakes, frogs, and all the insects.It would seem quite natural to see their dead bodies everywhere.
This man has never changed a light piece with a few hundred of dead insects. Or given a close look at any window littered with tiny corpses.
He also has probably not heard of scavengers or decomposers, either.

In humid, warm climates, animal corpses rot in a matter of days. The reason you see dead insects on windowsills or in lightbulbs is that said environments are very dry, which retards decomposition.

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Wouldn't anyone else feel guilty for saying "you fool" every day to a bowl of rice that hadn't done anyone any harm? Hasn't glurge taught you people anything!!!

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quote:
Originally posted by Oualawouzou:
[qb] From the "Why Corpses..." article: [QUOTE]Crows and birds, wild monkeys, rabbits, moles, snakes, frogs, and all the insects.It would seem quite natural to see their dead bodies everywhere.

Is there a special exception for armadillos and possums? I see them everywhere.

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Originally posted by Pseudo_Croat:
The reason you see dead insects on windowsills or in lightbulbs is that said environments are very dry, which retards decomposition.

I'd think the main reason is that insects have exoskeletons that don't decompose.

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Why not try the experiment with two jars containing a mixture of gooseberries, cream and sugar? It would be interesting to see then what happens to the jar you say "you fool" to.

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