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I was just watching revenge of the Nerds, and during the "chug a beer every lap" race at the beginnig of the home-coming carnival scenes of the film, Takashi is given a pill. "This is trichloromethylene, it will counteract the effects of alcohol"
Any validity to this!?
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I'm a chemist. Trichloromethylene is another name for chloroform. Taking a chloroform pill will not help counteract anything, unless you view being rendered unconcious and possibly dead as an antidote to being drunk.
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heheheh, that solves that! The nerds solution to avoid getting drunk... go to sleep!
Posts: 7 | From: Vallejo, CA | Registered: Aug 2006
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My mother worked at an alcoholism information center for years. I asked her about this stuff also. She said that people have been trying, for decades, to come up with a pill or something that will counteract the effects of alcohol.
So far- zippo!
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He could take disulfiram. This would make him throw up as soon as he drank the beer so he wouldn't have absorbed much alcohol.
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quote:Originally posted by GenYus: He could take disulfiram. This would make him throw up as soon as he drank the beer so he wouldn't have absorbed much alcohol.
quote:Disulfiram (Antabuse) plus even small amounts of alcohol produces flushing, throbbing in head and neck, throbbing headache, respiratory difficulty, nausea, copious vomiting, sweating, thirst, chest pain, palpitation, dyspnea, hyperventilation, tachycardia, hypotension, syncope, marked uneasiness, weakness, vertigo, blurred vision, and confusion. In severe reactions, there may be respiratory depression, cardiovascular collapse, arrhythmias, myocardial infarction, acute congestive heart failure, unconsciousness, convulsions, and death
I think I'll take the hangover.
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quote:Originally posted by GenYus: He could take disulfiram. This would make him throw up as soon as he drank the beer so he wouldn't have absorbed much alcohol.
The side effects can be pretty severe though
Funny! Most of the side effects listed are ones that I get from alcohol. (I'll get back to you on "death", though! )
Posts: 1157 | From: Westcountry UK "It's Bootiful" | Registered: Jul 2005
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Trichloromethylene could not exist as the -ene suffix means a carbon-carbon double bond and the meth- prefix means single carbon atom in molecule. The 2 possible compounds are Trichloromethane (=Chloroform) as stated this is a highly poisonous substance; and Trichloroethene (= trichloroethylene) which is an industrial degreaser, also nasty if ingested. Both are liquids and neither would dissolve a polar carbohydrate (ie alcohol) so even if taking either of them didn't kill you it would not stop alcohol from being absorbed. Although chelating agents do exist to stop chemicals being ingested (ie cyanide) they are not pleasant and would only be used if the alternative is worse (ie death)
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quote:Originally posted by Mycroft: Trichloromethylene could not exist as the -ene suffix means a carbon-carbon double bond and the meth- prefix means single carbon atom in molecule.
Sorry, but that isn't true. The naming of chemical compounds is complex. It is made more complex by the existences of several sets of sometimes conflicting rules. It is made even more complex by a large number of names that don't follow any rules at all.
The -ene ending in modern systematic naming systems does indeed mean the presense of a carbon carbon double bond.
In older systems, and in trivial name systems, the "-ene" ending can mean a carbon with only two hydrogens. For example, methelene chloride (CH2Cl2) has the -ene ending but only contains one carbon (therefore no carbon-carbon double bonds). This is a pretty old nomenclature and it does not fit the current naming rules, but the name is still widely used and excepted.
"Trichloromethylene" is not an accepted name but not because the "-ene" ending is inconsistent with the -methyl- (containing one carbon) root. The name was simply constructed wrong. (Or it was just misspelled.) Presumably, the author meant CHCl3 (chloroform).
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