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Demonic Matt
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A guy I know told me that "The reason the film Battle Royale was so effective in Japan is because its based on an actual idea thought up by the government as a way of controlling the population"

Can anyone shed any light on this?

(By the way, Battle Royale is a Japanese film in which schoolchildren are sent to an island and and forced to fight each other)

[ 04. February 2006, 08:16 AM:   snopes ]

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The reason the film "Battle Royale" wa so well recieved in Japan is most likely due to the fact that it came from a best selling Japanese novel.

The author, Koushun Takami, was a small town journalist and the book bears resemblances to other literary works. These include "The Most Dangerous Game", "Lord of the Flies", and Stephen King's "The Running Man." The author even named the town in the book Shiroiwa which translates as Castle Rock, which is the town used in several of King's works.

The government would never attempt to even suggest a policy like this.

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I own this movie on DVD and it fascinates me in a way I'm not sure I could ever fully describe. here's a link to a pretty good review of the film that gives some more information on why it was made.

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Unlikely. Youth problems have been on the mind of a lot of Japanese people (and it’s press), but I hardly doubt that a government trying to get a permanent seat in the UN would try to implement something like this. It would also be return to Japan’s more imperialistic days which they are obviously trying to move away from as a developed nation.

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quote:
Originally posted by Demonic Matt:
A guy I know told me that "The reason the film Battle Royale was so effective in Japan is because its based on an actual idea thought up by the government as a way of controlling the population

I somehow doubt that a country on the brink of a birthrate crisis would want to start killing off youngsters!!

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^ Seriously. Your buddy seems to be confusing Japan with China. Anyway, killing off 100 or so schoolkids a year isn't going to do much in a country of 100 million people. Besides, the aim of the program in the movie isn't population control, it's deterrance (juvenile delinquency being a major problem).

But yeah, the movie's based on a novel.

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Kamino Neko
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quote:
Originally posted by Funkmistress:
^ Seriously. Your buddy seems to be confusing Japan with China. Anyway, killing off 100 or so schoolkids a year isn't going to do much in a country of 100 million people.

Actually, I haven't seen the movie recently, but in the book, it's mentioned that they do this 50 times a year, in every district - the book is set in an alternate universe where a single despotic nation covers most of South-East Asia.

So, 50 classes from each district, on average about 30 or 40 students per class (let's call it 35), an unknown number of districts, but let's call it 47, the same number as the number of prefectures real-world Japan is divided into. Book is set in 1997, the BR program was initially introduced after the war, so let's call it 1945. So, 52 years this program's been going.

50 classes * (35 students - 1 survivor) * 47 districts == 79900 dead students every year, or a total of 4,154,800 dead students since the program started. This isn't including the children they wouldn't have. I'm not qualified to guess how this would effect the current population of the Republic.

The mortality rate of 79900 14 year olds (well, mostly 14 year olds...there'd no doubt be some 13 and 15 year olds) a year would be fairly effective population control, in Japan.

But, we've already established such a program was never proposed by Japan because, a) they've never actually faced over-population, and are, in fact, facing a decline and b) even if they had, far less draconian methods are available, and far more likely to be accepted.

And, in the book, the reasons for the program are presented as military neccessety, but are really intended to keep the population scared and divided, so they can't rebel.

The movie's version - that it's in response to a growing juvenile crime rate - makes a lot less sense, because of the lottery aspect of the classes being chosen. But it certainly went a long way to making the story resonate in Japan.

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PhiloPharynx
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I own the movie and thoroughly enjoy it. However, one thing really bugs me. If they're trying to deter crime, why are they killing the kids who go to school? Why not kill the kids who aren't?
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SchmooPie
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quote:
Originally posted by PhiloPharynx:
I own the movie and thoroughly enjoy it. However, one thing really bugs me. If they're trying to deter crime, why are they killing the kids who go to school? Why not kill the kids who aren't?

Oh, yeah. There you go ruining my suspension of disbelief. [Big Grin]

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