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Comment: Does Wal-Mart counsel new employees during new hire orientation
on how to apply for public assistance such as Medicaid (MediCal in
California), Food Stamps or other subsidies due to the fact that they
won't put employees on full time to enable the receiving of benefits
through Wal-Mart?

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I don't really believe the Wal-mart owners would care enough too go through the trouble...
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I don't know they actually might. I am going to have to dig up a cite but I believe that companies are rewarded for hiring people on medicaid, or food stamps.

My childrens school sent home forms for free/reduced lunches, and medicaid information. and a few other things as well. We don't need them so I didn't really pay much attention to it.

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I seriously doubt that anyone working at WalMart would qualify for food-stamps or Medicaid. Their children might but the working adult probably would not. One has to be broke beyond belief to qualify for these benefits at least here in MI anyway.

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Medicaid effectively doesn't exist anymore; food stamps are something many "working poor" do qualify for. I agree with the poster who said WalMart probably wouldn't care enough to go to the trouble.
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YMMV. There, I'll just put it at the top. lol

Granted it was about seven years ago, but I started off working part-time at Wal Mart. There was nary a mention of applying for assistance. There is an incentive to hire people who do have it, however.

It certainly must vary by state, who is eligible. When living in Vermont, my family would have qualified for assistance if we had applied, and she made around $20k a year. I make 4-5 less than that a year in Iowa and they've ended our food stamps and medicaid, and my daughter's eligibility seems to fluctuate from month to month. Then again, they don't seem to know their asses froma hole in the ground either, but there's one for the rant board. lol

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I worked at one back around 2002 or 2003. No mention of the programs was made during orientation or during the pathetic excuse for training we received.

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What Astra said....

I briefly worked for WM part-time back in 2002 (as a supplement to my full-time day job-- it wasn't worth it and I quit after six weeks). I went through the orientation like anyone else, and the only thing that stood out was the insulting, demeaning anti-union propaganda video we were forced to watch.

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The only business sectors that need unions are the ones where the bosses would try to discourage its emplyoyees from forming a union.

Sectors that are treating its employees well enough wouldn't bother discouraging people from forming unions, because the employees would lose too much if they tried to strike.

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I thought I had heard something about this before, that Wal-Mart encourages their employees to apply (in the context of a union or petition conversation of some sort). The AFL-CIO says it's true.

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I think I saw it in a movie about Wal -Mart

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0473107/

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I worked for wal-fart a couple years ago as a cashier, for 9 long agonizing months...and nothing was ever mentioned about welfare, life/medical insurance, etc in orientation. BUT..I did get information on the medical coverage from wally world a few months before I quit, and it was very expensive. The store I worked for was big on saftey videos though....and the almighty dollar. Now, everytime I go into the Wal Fart here...most of the associates look worn out and beaten down...especially the cashiers and the ones stuck in the service department.

For those of you that were/are associates, do you remember the wal-mart song? Gimme a "W"....

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quote:
Originally posted by LOADEDGOAT:
For those of you that were/are associates, do you remember the wal-mart song? Gimme a "W"....

Last week I was in Wal-Mart early in the morning. In the corner of the store near the garden department, the cashiers had been rounded up into a pep rally and, led by a manager, they were chanting "Gimme a 'W', Gimme an 'A'... WAL-MART! WAL-MART! WAL-MART! YAY!"

I couldn't believe it. I was a cashier once (at a different store) and although our training video showed these "pep rallys" as a morning ritual, I was told that no one actually did it.

First I was surprised, then I laughed my ass off at the thought of anyone allowing themselves to participate in such a spectacle.

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quote:
Originally posted by LOADEDGOAT:
For those of you that were/are associates, do you remember the wal-mart song? Gimme a "W"....

I could have gone the rest of my life without being reminded of that... thankfully I managed to avoid it most of the time, since they always scheduled associate meetings in the mornings and I worked afternoons and evenings.

We also got the ridiculous "Unions are BAAAADDD!" video. Seemed like they spent more time during training on what we should do if an evil union organizer were to approach us than how to actually operate the stupid registers.

I was never given information about welfare or other programs, but I do know that several of my coworkers, some who had been cashiers with the company for several years, were on welfare. They were working close to 40 hours a week (but usually just enough to still be considered parttime), in some cases had husbands working as well, and were still obviously cash-strapped.

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quote:
Originally posted by Cervus:
Last week I was in Wal-Mart early in the morning. In the corner of the store near the garden department, the cashiers had been rounded up into a pep rally and, led by a manager, they were chanting "Gimme a 'W', Gimme an 'A'... WAL-MART! WAL-MART! WAL-MART! YAY!"

I couldn't believe it. I was a cashier once (at a different store) and although our training video showed these "pep rallys" as a morning ritual, I was told that no one actually did it.

First I was surprised, then I laughed my ass off at the thought of anyone allowing themselves to participate in such a spectacle.

Lawdy yes...there was even a squiggly in there for the dash between the words...and YES...we did them...I guess we figured we'd be canned if we didn't... [Eek!]

Let me add another ummm tidbit...Associates were fairly regular targets of shoppers with buggys and the motorized store vehicles..it was if we were invisible. We did a lot of ducking and dodging during shifts.

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I worked at Walmart for about 2 years. 97-98. I don't remember anything in orientation about medicade and food stamps. I remember a really ridiculous personality test, and all sorts of tests we had to do on the computer, and the sexual harassment tapes, and ::shudder:: the pep rallies. I think I had blocked that from my memory because I had completely forgotten about it until I saw the above posts with that hideous chant.

Off topic a bit, but I ended up quitting because I didn't flirt back with a particular manager, who then decided to make my life a living hell. A few months after I quit he had been fired because he had four seperate sexual harassment suits against him.

Edited because I just woke up and can't remember dates before I've had my first cup of coffee.

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quote:
Originally posted by Jinxie:
My childrens school sent home forms for free/reduced lunches, and medicaid information. and a few other things as well. We don't need them so I didn't really pay much attention to it.

Schools are probably required to distribute that information, especially since the free/reduced lunches are provided through the schools.

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Lainie is correct, schools are required to do that.

Not only that, but (in Texas, anyway) if a certain percentage of kids end up qualifying as low income, the school gets extra monies. So they really encourage this.

We always made jeeest enough over to not qualify. Just barely. And in one school we went to, even if you did qualify, you wouldn't DARE have taken the reduced lunches, because you would have been teased and make to feel like doo doo because your parents weren't rich. (I tranfered us OUT of that district once I figured out how things were, best thing I ever did, asshats they were). But in a lot of schools, more are on it than not and nobody thinks twice about it.

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(slight hijack:)

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Originally posted by snapdragonfly:


And in one school we went to, even if you did qualify, you wouldn't DARE have taken the reduced lunches, because you would have been teased and make to feel like doo doo because your parents weren't rich.

When I was in school we also were given the info at the beginning of the year, and there was something in the info saying that the students would not know who was or was not on free lunch. But it didn't work quite that way as the teacher gave free lunch cards to the appropriate kids at the beginning of the year and they showed them in the lunch lines instead of paying cash. So the system wasn't perfect - if anyone really wanted to know (I doubt that anyone cared) they would know who was getting free lunch.

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My girls get free lunches at their schools...but instead of showing "cards" or whatever...they tell the cashier the last 4 of their social security number, as do the rest of the children...

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quote:
Originally posted by LOADEDGOAT:
My girls get free lunches at their schools...but instead of showing "cards" or whatever...they tell the cashier the last 4 of their social security number, as do the rest of the children...

Yeah, most schools I've dealt with do a better job of keeping that information confidential (as they should) than they used to in years past. Either everyone gets a card, or everyone uses some sort of account number, as you said.
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My $0.02:

I worked at Wal*Mart full time a few (ok, 11) years back, and when I inquired about the health care plan, I was asked if I had explored "other options, like Medicaid". If I had never asked, I doubt I would have been told, however.

Ahh, the anti-union videos. They were old when I worked there. I never did do the Wal*Mart cheer, however. I was always conveniently elsewhere. [Smile]

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by LOADEDGOAT:
My girls get free lunches at their schools...but instead of showing "cards" or whatever...they tell the cashier the last 4 of their social security number, as do the rest of the children...

Yeah, most schools I've dealt with do a better job of keeping that information confidential (as they should) than they used to in years past. Either everyone gets a card, or everyone uses some sort of account number, as you said.
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They might have changed it, but at the time, at the school we went to, they gave reduced lunch kids a different color ticket AND they put them in a different line.

Insensitive much? (and yes, in fact, they were a bunch of nasty little snobs, it was so good to get out of there, ugh)

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quote:
Originally posted by snapdragonfly:
quote:
Originally posted by Nobody Important:
quote:
Originally posted by LOADEDGOAT:
My girls get free lunches at their schools...but instead of showing "cards" or whatever...they tell the cashier the last 4 of their social security number, as do the rest of the children...

Yeah, most schools I've dealt with do a better job of keeping that information confidential (as they should) than they used to in years past. Either everyone gets a card, or everyone uses some sort of account number, as you said.
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They might have changed it, but at the time, at the school we went to, they gave reduced lunch kids a different color ticket AND they put them in a different line.

Insensitive much? (and yes, in fact, they were a bunch of nasty little snobs, it was so good to get out of there, ugh)

They have changed it from when you attended school.

In the US, in order to serve NSLP lunches, schools must make sure that the students served free and reduced meals are indistingushable from all other students. The majority of schools (in California at least) have gone electronic and students either use a pin number or a card to purchase lunches where the pin number/card corresponds to a free/reduced meal application or a pre-paid account paid for by parents.

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The Wal Mart cheer is the only thing that really bothered me. I don't think it's fair to force employees to be peppy when they are not/don't want to be.

I guess I missed out on the union video. Lucky me. [Wink]

As for the medical insurance thing . . . Well, it's expensive EVERYWHERE and not just at Wal Mart. Hell, I just got the paperwork for insurance from my workplace and it's nuts! It would take up one third of my annual income to cover three freakin' people. I don't think so!

My wife got upset at my attitude towards it. She said she will eventually get a part time job and then we could afford it. After explaining to her that almost every dollar she earned would be spent on the insurance, she quieted down about it. [lol]

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Just to throw another log on the pile, I've never worked at Sprawl-Mart, but I've had friends who have. Based on what they've told me, it is my understanding that the company doesn't cover this stuff during orientation, but they will hand out government assistance forms to employees who ask about paid sick leave, health benefits, etc.

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quote:
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Just to throw another log on the pile, I've never worked at Sprawl-Mart, but I've had friends who have. Based on what they've told me, it is my understanding that the company doesn't cover this stuff during orientation, but they will hand out government assistance forms to employees who ask about paid sick leave, health benefits, etc.

Yes they will...if they can find it... [lol] and omg..don't even say the word sick around management..

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(hijacking to comment on the school lunch programs) I'm old enough to remember when the kids getting the free lunch program were pulled out of class for an hour to work in the kitchen in order to earn their "free" lunch.

I'm appalled to remember that now, but at the time the other kids thought it was cool.

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quote:
Originally posted by Nobody Important:
quote:
Originally posted by LOADEDGOAT:
My girls get free lunches at their schools...but instead of showing "cards" or whatever...they tell the cashier the last 4 of their social security number, as do the rest of the children...

Yeah, most schools I've dealt with do a better job of keeping that information confidential (as they should) than they used to in years past. Either everyone gets a card, or everyone uses some sort of account number, as you said.
Back in the early 70s, my elementary school used a simple card that was punched for each meal and was used for everyone, regular, reduced or free.
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quote:
Originally posted by Horse Chestnut:
(hijacking to comment on the school lunch programs) I'm old enough to remember when the kids getting the free lunch program were pulled out of class for an hour to work in the kitchen in order to earn their "free" lunch.

I'm appalled to remember that now, but at the time the other kids thought it was cool.

Before I found out what was going on, I thought it was cool.

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quote:
Originally posted by Horse Chestnut:
(hijacking to comment on the school lunch programs) I'm old enough to remember when the kids getting the free lunch program were pulled out of class for an hour to work in the kitchen in order to earn their "free" lunch.

I'm appalled to remember that now, but at the time the other kids thought it was cool.

I belive that was almost certainly a regional or posibly district thing. School lunches are paid for by a federal program. There would be no need for the school or district to make up the loss. You're just a bit older than I, and it did not occur in any of the half dozen elementary schools I attended in Indiana or California.

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Kids definitely don't get pulled out for free lunch and haven't in this district in my lifetime, if ever. Before the age of computerized accounting and monthly bills, they used to issue tokens for lunch, which some of us would pay cash for and others would get for free. A lot of kids with free lunch would bring a sack lunch and still pick up a token and sell the token for below "market" value. I'm ashamed to admit that I sometimes took advantage of the savings in high school. Once they switched to billing my Senior year, the practice was effectively ended for good.

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quote:
Originally posted by RLobinske:
Back in the early 70s, my elementary school used a simple card that was punched for each meal and was used for everyone, regular, reduced or free.

As did mine in the late '70s.

I don't remember anyone getting pulled out of class to work for their "free" lunch. I do remember that my middle school had some paid student workers that washed trays but I don't think that was connected to the free lunch program.

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quote:
Originally posted by Rivkah Chaya:
Medicaid effectively doesn't exist anymore

My wife and my two kids have it, they paid for all of her pregnacy.

Medicaid =!= Welfare which is what food stamps are included under. While both are based on income, depending on the state you are in minimum wage is not by the hour it is by the annual salary. In IA, its like anything below 45k, and you're considered qualified. And inregards to the OP, I think this is just a generalization that has been branded on wal-mart as being a "white trash" store, which maybe where you go it its, but my local wal-mart is clean and has alot of great people there. I've never had any issues with wal-mart. Ever.


I think it is just typical "they make more money than god so lets bring them down in some way." Like microsoft haters.

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Also, it doesn't make any sense that wal-mart would offer medicaid over there own insurance.
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