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Comment: I have heard from several people that cars built on Wed. are
always better than cars built on Mon. or Fri.

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Well...I'll ask my hubby what he thinks but IMO from the work ethic mondays are drag your feet and friday you can't wait to get out of there so maybe there is some truth LOL

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I think most workers who 'drag their feet' on mondays or are prone to the occasional 'friday job' are most often spotted in the dole queue these days, though I have heard that sometimes the robot manipulator arms get excited and write 'picasso' all over the new machines [lol]

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I'd always heard this belief attributed to the supposed fact that Mondays and Fridays had the highest rates of employee absenteeism among auto workers, therefore you didn't want to buy a car manufactured on those days because some of the assembly steps might have been skipped or too hastily performed by other workers who had to cover for the absent employees in addition to performing their own assigned tasks.

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I've heard this too because the workers are still hung over from the weekend on Monday and they are so ready to leave on Friday that they might miss a step and try to hurry to get out quickly. I have never gone to the trouble of checking, is this info readily available through the dealer? Puts little faith in the blue collar workers of America.

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This is a quote from Arthur Heiley's "Wheels". Or this fact is quoted in "Wheels". Either way, it's in the book.
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My bad: he's Hailey
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You do know that "Wheels" is a work of fiction, right?

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You do know that "Wheels" is a work of fiction, right?
I do, but my understanding was that it's "based on real facts" kind of fiction. I'm not saying it's true, but this a) tells that the rumor is that old b) gives a possible source and c) gives a rationale (or "rationale").
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quote:
Originally posted by bethntim:
I've heard this too because the workers are still hung over from the weekend on Monday and they are so ready to leave on Friday that they might miss a step and try to hurry to get out quickly. I have never gone to the trouble of checking, is this info readily available through the dealer? Puts little faith in the blue collar workers of America.

Older cars may have the exact day on a placard somewhere on the car. Newer cars only have the month and year on the placard on the door. The dealer can probably look it up by the VIN. The information is also on the build sheet, which they should have a copy of. I just avoid the problem by not buying cars made in Michigan...

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But is it possible at all in this time to talk about a "car built on a monday" with so many parts being built all around the world, shipped around, and dozens of assembly steps, I guess you'd be challenged to find a car without some friday inside. And the last day possibly is one of the least important ones, some colour finishing maybe?

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quote:
Originally posted by Ulkomaalainen:
But is it possible at all in this time to talk about a "car built on a monday" with so many parts being built all around the world, shipped around, and dozens of assembly steps, I guess you'd be challenged to find a car without some friday inside. And the last day possibly is one of the least important ones, some colour finishing maybe?

IIRC, the 'build date' on the documentation is the initiation date, not the date it rolled out of the factory. In other words, that's when it starts down the line. It would roll out 2-3 days later. Depends on the process used, but I would venture to guess on that date the body-in-white is constructed and goes through the paint shop. All other major sub-assemblies (engine, trans, sometimes suspension and subframe) are usually assembled elsewhere and arrives at the plant (idealy) just before they're put on the car.

So, you're right, the real build date is irrelevant since major parts are assembled on different days. Of course, odds are that some part of the car was build on a monday or friday!

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quote:
Originally posted by Ulkomaalainen:
But is it possible at all in this time to talk about a "car built on a monday" with so many parts being built all around the world, shipped around, and dozens of assembly steps, I guess you'd be challenged to find a car without some friday inside. And the last day possibly is one of the least important ones, some colour finishing maybe?

Also, the injection molded parts tend to be made 24/7, so there would be no consistent Monday/Friday issue with them. Maybe beginning of shift/end of shift issues. Or possibly, 3rd shift I-should-be-in-bed issues. Some injection molded parts do have shift markings on them (as well as month and day), assuming anyone bothered to set them.

If there was any truth to the notion that cars are more poorly made on Mondays and Fridays, and that those errors are completely missed before leaving the plant, someone in QC isn't doing their job very well.

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quote:
Originally posted by Delta-V:
quote:
Originally posted by bethntim:
I've heard this too because the workers are still hung over from the weekend on Monday and they are so ready to leave on Friday that they might miss a step and try to hurry to get out quickly. I have never gone to the trouble of checking, is this info readily available through the dealer? Puts little faith in the blue collar workers of America.

Older cars may have the exact day on a placard somewhere on the car. Newer cars only have the month and year on the placard on the door. The dealer can probably look it up by the VIN. The information is also on the build sheet, which they should have a copy of. I just avoid the problem by not buying cars made in Michigan...
Psst, hey, a lot of "foreign" cars are made in the US--Toyota, BMW, Honda, etc. And Ford and GM and Chrysler have plants all over, including Canada and Mexico. Most of the Dodges come out of MX now, by the trainload.
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Yep, when I worked as a mechanical engineer, in Ohio, our plant put out parts for Hondas and Toyotas. Granted it was a Japanese owned company, but it employed a crap-load of Americans. Good money too. Now most of the "American" car plants that are around here are trying to pull out, and go to Mexico.
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quote:
Originally posted by DoubleNaughtSaleen:
Psst, hey, a lot of "foreign" cars are made in the US--Toyota, BMW, Honda, etc. And Ford and GM and Chrysler have plants all over, including Canada and Mexico. Most of the Dodges come out of MX now, by the trainload.

Which makes my choices of cars not made in Michigan just that much larger. My current cars were built in Claycomo Missouri, Normal Illinois, and Bowling Green Kentucky. All three were built in UAW plants. All three have American nameplates. It's just that having worked in the auto industry in Michigan, I've no stomach for buying a car made there. Kinda like the old adage about people who like sausages shouldn't see them made. The sad fact is that US-badged cars made in Mexico have better build quality than the ones built in Michigan.

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Let me start off by asking this question:

What difference does it make, IF, your car series is a lemon model?

(Serious)

I owned a Dodge Intrepid '99. And the car had severe problems from the get-go. If I were to pull up the repair history, I've complained about this car at least 20 times during the summer when the air conditioner failed, the repair job ran in the near 10 grand for all complaints combined.

My expert mechanic had to rip out the dashboard and several engine components to get to the main source of the problem the coolant to the air conditioner. Then he had to do it again when it wasn't the right box.

Even Discovery's Mythbusters had a problem with the piece of junk Intrepid when they had to change the battery out because you have to rip off the right front tire to pull it out.

Plus with the extra security features to the Dodge/Chrysler series. Such as you have to buy their hubcaps and not put your own on. Because it's a special mounting design for all their wheels.

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No I don't know if the car was made on Monday or Friday, although it probably took them seven days to put one car together with how complicated the heaps are. It probably doesn't make any day difference at all.

A lemon is to a lemon as an intrepid is to a piece of dogdoodoo.

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I think you'll find that the Japanese build cars with small groups or teams overseeing each other's work. They've revoluntionized everything else in the automotive world, so why not assembly? I read an interesting report about differences in their approach at the Marysville, Ohio Honda plant versus a Jeep plant. The story also told of Jeep workers putting objects in the doors of the cars to create rattles, when they were unhappy with some union goings on. The point of this group approach is cross training people so they can work on several aspects of assembly, not just one thing. The group can also work on ways to improve things, and critique each other's work. This really lessens the chance that one particular car will be a lemon, no matter when it is built.

(Just so you won't think I'm biased against the traditional U.S. brands, I've owned 4 GM, one Jeep, one Toyota, and four Hondas since 1990. The last "U.S." vehicle, was a 2000 model year, and it will indeed be the "last" I ever own. I've given them a fair chance, and deep down, wanted them to be better than they really were. Just can't afford to give them one more chance, when I can go to someone else and get a vehicle that is a sure thing.)

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I've heard this legend tossed around as a joke. If you have a car that happens to be a hunk o' junk you might say, "Well, we could drive my car to Florida, but I think it was built on a Monday." The sort of thing nobody really believes, but is fun to pretend to believe it.

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aren't most cars manufactured in semi-automative factories, whereupon the workers are doing little more than visuals these days?
The day of the week of manufacture could make only miniscule differences. The main differences are in the brands.

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The quality of American cars seems to be the roll of the dice. I don't ever recall having purchased a lemon, but after reading what consumer reports said about the American Models, I will certainly give the Japanese Market serious consideration with my next purchase. Ten years ago, I would not have ever thought that either.
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i thought that a majority of all cars made are made by mechanical robots with humans just eyeballing the product as it rolls down the line.
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