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TheJungOnes
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I didn't find this topic already, so here I go. I ran across the following paragraph on a website of strange sex laws. I couldn't find any credible sites about this "law" or the related "full-time job" on google.

"There are men in Guam whose full-time job it is to travel the countryside and deflower young virgins, who pay them for the privilege of having sex for the first time. Why? Under the law in Guam, it is forbidden for virgins to marry."
Dribbleglass.com Strange Sex Laws
Also covered on Pravad.ru.

So what's the word on this "law"? Both sites make it sound like this is still an everyday event on the island. I doubt it still true, but is it a 100% fabricated or did it used to be the practice on Guam?

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My bet is that it was a story made up by the Guamese(???) government has a ploy to increase immigration. Think about it. Lots of young, healthy men moving to Guam in the hopes of getting one of these 'dream jobs' who later find out that the real law is that anyone who deflowers a virgin must marry her. The men get shotgunned into being part of the family and helping out on the farm. They can't move back to where they came from because it is of course illegal in Guam to leave the country when you have been married for less than 7 years.
This is stage two of the plot because after seven years the men have lost any sense of their former home and remain with their by now somewhat perhaps sort of beloved spouse.
Government of Guam: 1 - Horny Men: 0

In all honesty though, I know it's from a strange sex laws thing so intrinsically it's probably not supposed to make any sense... but I mean, this one is just silly. The only way you would need a position like this is if the government forbid not only marrying when a virgin, but also premarital sex. Then you would have to have people that were basically vigilantes of justice deflowering local virgins to benefit the good of the people... sort of like Zorro I guess, but with a different sword.
I think the only reason it's Guam that has this law is that noone is ever going to bother to look it up. I say we send it to Dateline or something for an expose.

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edited- somehow posted the same thing twice by accident. [dunce]
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quote:
Originally posted by Sanity Zero:
My bet is that it was a story made up by the Guamese(???) government has a ploy to increase immigration. Think about it. Lots of young, healthy men moving to Guam in the hopes of getting one of these 'dream jobs' who later find out that the real law is that anyone who deflowers a virgin must marry her. The men get shotgunned into being part of the family and helping out on the farm. They can't move back to where they came from because it is of course illegal in Guam to leave the country when you have been married for less than 7 years.
This is stage two of the plot because after seven years the men have lost any sense of their former home and remain with their by now somewhat perhaps sort of beloved spouse.
Government of Guam: 1 - Horny Men: 0

In all honesty though, I know it's from a strange sex laws thing so intrinsically it's probably not supposed to make any sense... but I mean, this one is just silly. The only way you would need a position like this is if the government forbid not only marrying when a virgin, but also premarital sex. Then you would have to have people that were basically vigilantes of justice deflowering local virgins to benefit the good of the people... sort of like Zorro I guess, but with a different sword.
I think the only reason it's Guam that has this law is that noone is ever going to bother to look it up. I say we send it to Dateline or something for an expose.

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quote:
vigilantes of justice deflowering local virgins to benefit the good of the people
[lol] I'm using that line this weekend.
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quote:
Originally posted by TheJungOnes:
Under the law in Guam, it is forbidden for virgins to marry.

You'd think they'd just lose their virginity to the person they wanted to marry.

Actually, this brings up another point... how do they know if you're a virgin when you marry? They'd have to check everyone's...and even then that's not a guarantee...

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Jason Threadslayer
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Hmm... same story, different people: Fathers sticking their fingers into their daughters' vaginas before marriage in the Bible.

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Felessan
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According to the World Factbook, Guam has a population of just under 170,000 as of July 2005.

Can anyone do the maths on how many full-time deflowerers the population could support?

I'm having comedy sketch thoughts about deflowerers coming to blows over a virgin... or maybe the law is revoked. "Alms for an ex-deflowerer, sir/mam?"

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quote:
Can anyone do the maths on how many full-time deflowerers the population could support?
I bet there is stiff competition.

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quote:
Originally posted by Troberg:
I bet there is stiff competition.

I'm sure there is, despite the hard work involved.

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Can you imagine the career questionaire that would lead to this job?

21. Do you like to work outdoors or indoors?
22. Do you deal better with people or numbers?
23. Do you like to NFBSK young virgins?

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1) It seems that such a law would be a bit challenging to enforce.
2) Even if such a law existed, I suspect the virgin and her husband-to-be would have little difficulty in overcoming that impediment themselves.

Edit: Overcoming, not overcovering.

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quote:
Originally posted by Jason Threadslayer:
Hmm... same story, different people: Fathers sticking their fingers into their daughters' vaginas before marriage in the Bible.

That sounds like a very misremembered gypsy tradition (I'll track down a cite) where the newlyweds would, following the ceremony, have sex on a white cloth. The cloth was brough back to the guests blood-spotted, there was even greater cause for celebration.

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Considering that Guam is US territory, I really doubt the existance of that law. It may have been the custom of the native people years ago but a current law? No way.

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I'm a few days late in discovering this discussion.

When I pointed out this thread to my cubicle neighbor who lived in Guam for a laugh, he informed me that modern Guam is well over 90% Roman Cathlolic. So, the oppisite state of Viginity I presume is the goal of most mariage bound young maidens.

So for there to be any kernal of truth in this factoid, one would have to go back a few centuries to tribal Guam.

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room88
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Born and raised there I can tell you all it's absolutely 100% false (about as preposterous as saying that it's the law in the United States). Nor was it ever a part of ancient "tribal" Guam. It would be almost comical how this wacked out fiction has spread around the internet.. if it wasn't so sad that so many people actually believed it..

Marie Claire magazine actually printed out some of these rumors in a 2002 issue and it it caused an outright uproar! It dominated the local news and talk radio for days. People couldn't believe it was being printed as fact. Women of Guam from all parts of life (including the Lt. Governor who was a woman) staged protests burning the magazine and demanded an apology. See details here: http://members.aol.com/magastodu/c_issues/ntl_news/01012002.htm

This outright crazy mistruth really needs it's own Snopes entry! Hey as a guy I'd probably like to see a "deflowerer" job back at home... but let's just get real here. [Wink]

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Welcome to the board, room88.

It's always good to have first-hand input on a UL rebuttal..

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quote:
Originally posted by Jason Threadslayer:
Hmm... same story, different people: Fathers sticking their fingers into their daughters' vaginas before marriage in the Bible.

Not that the Bible isn't full of wacky sexual escapades (read the end of the Sodom & Gommorah story that they never taught in Sunday school, in which Lot's daughters get their old man drunk so they can rape him to get themselves pregnant!), but this particular site makes some interesting leaps of logic and doesn't exactly present a balanced scholarly take on the subject. It's an Islamic site that does its best to portray the Judaic tradition as one of perversion and pederasty. Please note that I'm not making this accusation at Muslims or at Islam in general; I'm merely commenting on this site. (I certainly don't want my own church to be judged based on the writings of Phelps or Robertson, and I don't believe that this particular site is representative of mainstream Islam.)

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quote:
Originally posted by Felessan:

Can anyone do the maths on how many full-time deflowerers the population could support?

I know many guys that would work VERY cheaply for a position in this line of work...

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quote:
Originally posted by spe934:
quote:
Originally posted by Felessan:

Can anyone do the maths on how many full-time deflowerers the population could support?

I know many guys that would work VERY cheaply for a position in this line of work...
But only for a few years, until age catches up and the urgency leaves them. Obviously no tenured positions would be available, but pretty much of the younger male population might be so conscripted into duty. [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by Nocturnal Goddess: The Masquerade:
That sounds like a very misremembered gypsy tradition (I'll track down a cite) where the newlyweds would, following the ceremony, have sex on a white cloth. The cloth was brough back to the guests blood-spotted, there was even greater cause for celebration.

If anyone is misremembering, it's Gypsies themselves.

At least in Spain, Gypsy wedding ceremonies involve the old women of the family deflowering the bride with a white cloth to prove her virginity.

(I could look for cites if you want, but I saw the footage on TV - besides, Gypsies themselves have never hidden that such practice takes place).

Jaime

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