quote: Claire was amazed at how unfazed Corey was by this conversation. They could have just as easily have been talking about addition or the parts of a flower. Claire's mind spun as she thought about
all the hours spent in vain trying to teach her child how to be judgemental and bigotted
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GAH! It's just too sad! Evidently, evangelical Chirstianity is conposed of people so PRONE to falling into homosexuality that they can't even stand to hear about gay lifestyle. Humanity must be a 60-degree pile of perversions in constant danger of cascading into pudendal and/or penile perdition!
It is this failure to admit that everyone has peculiar sexual thoughts that causes such destructive angst amongst Christians (and, dare I say, Muslims). Without admitting that the human mind is an agile generator of diverse and disturbing thought, many Christian marriages dissolve in acrimony and grief. 50% to 70% of Christian marriages end in divorce within 15 years, depending on how close one lives to the Mason-Dixon Line.
Of the several gay couples in my neighborhood, all have survived at least two decades and counting. Now THAT's Family Values!
When a little boy announces that he wants to marry his best male friend, it is an expression of deep affection, not an indication of a future career playing the pink oboe. Little boys ALL think girls are YUCKY, but later some of them change their minds.
quote:The lead story was about a debate over a proposed tax increase that was being debated in Congress to prop up the Social Security system.
Beautiful.
Two right wings themes tied together.
"Same-sex marriages will cause tax increases."
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quote:Originally posted by noreen: "Same-sex marriages will cause tax increases."
It's all part of the downfall of society plan. Here's how:
Same-sex marriage will lead to tax increases.
The population will be incensed with the tax increases.
The population gets really incensed because of the tie to same-sex marriage.
The population revolts.
The military is called in, resulting in millions of deaths in New York, L.A., San Francisco and Omaha.
Iran chooses this time of instability in the Great Satan to unleash a surprise nuclear attack.
The U.S. military responds in kind, sparking a thermonuclear war.
The U.S. is obliterated.
To top it off, the ensuing nuclear winter leads to the extinction of the human race.
See how diabolical this plan is? Same-sex marriage will be the end of everything!
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You forgot the part about how gay marriage will somehow spread teh gay, creating more libruls in our society (teh gay makes one a librul, you know, and unable to decide about issues on their on merit).
The libruls will sieze power and use those tax increases (before the apocalyptic nuclear war ensues) to remove God from our society and finance stupid things like national healthcare (eeek! Socialism!) and the arts (spreads teh gay).
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BOSTON—Retired teachers Bob and Debbie Mastrantonio had planned to celebrate 40 years of wedded bliss this summer, welcoming friends and family to their suburban Boston home for hot dogs, ice cream and a tribute to that all-American institution: marriage. Instead, the party's off, and so is the marriage. Like an estimated 92% of married couples in Massachusetts these days, Bob and Debbie are headed to divorce court.
From man and wife to 'man hunt' The trouble started two years ago, recalls the couple's son Tom "Tiger" Mastrantonio, just weeks after a fiat of black-robed judges in the Commonwealth handed down their infamous decision legalizing homosexual marriage, effectively undermining Bob and Debbie's union, along with hundreds of thousands of other traditional Massachusetts families. "Overnight my dad just turned into a different guy," says Mr. Mastrantonio. "He kept saying he wanted to 'get out there' and 'explore other options.'" What initially seemed like a new hobby reached a crisis point last fall when an uncle encountered Bob's profile on a popular gay dating site: manhunt.net.
Meet your new polyamorous mom Meanwhile Debbie's devastation over the collapse of her traditional marriage led her to seek relief and companionship in the arms of another woman: former high-school classmate and long-time public school teacher Juliet Kolodny. The couple recently invited a third woman to join their polyamorous union and hope to make the love trio official sometime next fall. "I never knew this kind of situation was even an option," says Debbie Mastrantonio. "It's basically anything goes these days."
Marriages collapse en mass Experts say that the collapse of Bob and Debbie's marriage is far from unique. More than half of all Massachusetts marriages have ended since the Supreme Judicial Court launched its assault on morality in 2002. By 2013, it is predicted that the majority of adults in the Commonwealth will have abandoned traditional unions in favor of homosexual marriage, polygamous pairings, relationships with dogs, cats or other house pets, or incestuous love matches with their own brothers and sisters.
Gay levees breached While there are still a handful of heterosexual Bay State couples that continue to try to buck the cultural tide despite the collapse of the gay levees around them, even they show signs of weakening. Organizers of the recent Boston Pride events report record attendance at this year's parade and festival by married couples who describe themselves as "bi-curious."
Bi-curious and curiouser Boston resident Linda Haynes is part of one such curious couple. Mrs. Haynes notes that while a typical June Saturday would have found her playing with her kids in the yard of her suburban home, she and husband Doug opted instead to march in the gay pride parade. "There's a whole world out there to explore," says Mrs. Haynes. "So we said 'let's hire a sitter and get out there.'"
The couple has no plans to divorce, says Mrs. Haynes, but they are keeping their options open. This weekend they plan to post a joint profile on bicupid.net, a virtual meeting site for bisexual and bicurious friends, couples and singles. "We haven't decided whether it's going to be another man or a woman," says Mrs. Haynes. "But we're definitely ready to expand our marriage."
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quote:Originally posted by HotBlondeMom: I can't complain too much, I started the little debate by sending her this one:
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quote: 2) Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.
And hanging around fat people will make you fat... And hanging around vegans will make you a vegan...
I know that the ONLY reason I'm not gay is because I am afraid of what my friends will think...
quote: 3) Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven't adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, or longer life spans.
Or freeing thousands of slaves... Or allowing women to vote... Or allowing blacks to vote... Or allowing women/blacks to own property...
quote: 4) Straight marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all; women are still property, blacks still can't marry whites, and divorce is still illegal.
And don't forget union of ONE man and ONE woman has the been the "natural" state for "thousands" of years...Polygamy was NEVER accepted (remember that GOD always punished polygamists in the bible) nor were homosexuality every accepted (it was punished by death in Greece and Rome!) and we would never allow a 12 year old girl to get married...
quote: 7) Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.
Especially straight, highly moral, religiously conservative parents...just ask Dick Cheney!
quote: 8) Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.
10) Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.
And of course legalizing gay marriage would automically invalidate all existing laws so that pedophiles would be allowed to freely rape (because they are all gay anyway)...
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quote:Originally posted by HotBlondeMom: Claire was stunned. She thought back to the night a year ago when Corey wanted to ask Justin, the boy from across the street, to spend the night. Claire had simply explained that boys and girls don't spend the night together unless they are married. What would Corey be thinking about the next time she wanted Amanda to come spend the night?
Now I get it. You see, in their 'perfect world', sex only happens between people of opposite sex. And sex is almost always evil (other than for procreation), so one must stop sex at all cost. So how do you stop sex? You keep the sexes separate.
So you can keep Corey from having sex by keeping her separate from boys for the rest of her life (wel, other than when they 'give' her away to her new husband, but even then she will be allowed only girlfriends).
That is why we have separate bathrooms. That is why that pesky equal rights amendment failed, it would have forced us to make unisex bathrooms and that would lead to sex which would lead to our downfall as a country.
So IF you allow sex between people of the same sex, then everything will collapse. Men will have sex with men (and not be working), women will have sex with women (and not be cleaning the house), and worse, we will have sex in the military, causing a total loss of readiness (you can't fight after sex).
All of society will crumble.
So to stop this destruction of society, we MUST pass a Constitutional Amendment to ban gay sex. It is for our own good.
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quote:Originally posted by HotBlondeMom: Claire was stunned. She thought back to the night a year ago when Corey wanted to ask Justin, the boy from across the street, to spend the night. Claire had simply explained that boys and girls don't spend the night together unless they are married. What would Corey be thinking about the next time she wanted Amanda to come spend the night?
Now I get it. You see, in their 'perfect world', sex only happens between people of opposite sex. And sex is almost always evil (other than for procreation), so one must stop sex at all cost. So how do you stop sex? You keep the sexes separate.
So you can keep Corey from having sex by keeping her separate from boys for the rest of her life (wel, other than when they 'give' her away to her new husband, but even then she will be allowed only girlfriends).
That is why we have separate bathrooms. That is why that pesky equal rights amendment failed, it would have forced us to make unisex bathrooms and that would lead to sex which would lead to our downfall as a country.
So IF you allow sex between people of the same sex, then everything will collapse. Men will have sex with men (and not be working), women will have sex with women (and not be cleaning the house), and worse, we will have sex in the military, causing a total loss of readiness (you can't fight after sex).
All of society will crumble.
So to stop this destruction of society, we MUST pass a Constitutional Amendment to ban gay sex. It is for our own good.
It will be just like in A Handmaid's Tale. hooray!
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Or between a 14 year old and a 38 year old pedophile. And, surprisingly, I haven't heard thing one from the pCm's about this.
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I wonder what Wayne Allard and Marilyn Musgrave are doing about this ruling?
Child molestation= OK! Marriage at 12= OK! Two adult humans of the same sex in love= DEATH OF SOCIETY!
I bet they called an emergency caucus to scribble together another necessary amendment to the Constitution making gay marriage illegal.
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quote:Originally posted by Ryda Wong: Or between a 14 year old and a 38 year old pedophile. And, surprisingly, I haven't heard thing one from the pCm's about this.
Well, I might not be a pCm, but I would scream "NO!" at that one (also the common law stuff between kids).
Of course, I have no trouble with the gay marriage thing, so what do I know.
Note: One of the most common arguments people give me why gay marriages are bad is the, "It will hurt your marriage...".
Like how? So the only thing stopping me from running off with my office mate (he is gay) was the fact we could not get married? Or that the only thing stopping my wife from running off with her department chair was the same thing (okay, I don't know if she is lesbian, but maybe the only reason she isn't one is that whole marriage thing). Stupid argument.
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Note: One of the most common arguments people give me why gay marriages are bad is the, "It will hurt your marriage...".
Like how? So the only thing stopping me from running off with my office mate (he is gay) was the fact we could not get married? Or that the only thing stopping my wife from running off with her department chair was the same thing (okay, I don't know if she is lesbian, but maybe the only reason she isn't one is that whole marriage thing). Stupid argument.
That one always slays me, too. How could a gay couple getting married have ANYTHING to do with my marriage??? I don't get it. Even if you do buy the idea that it's a sin to be Teh Gay, I STILL don't see how that is going to affect MY marriage.
I guess they are convinced Teh Gay is catching. Oy.
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quote:Originally posted by Doug4.7: Like how? So the only thing stopping me from running off with my office mate (he is gay) was the fact we could not get married? Or that the only thing stopping my wife from running off with her department chair was the same thing (okay, I don't know if she is lesbian, but maybe the only reason she isn't one is that whole marriage thing). Stupid argument. [/QB]
Wait a second, gay marriage would be OPTIONAL? You mean, if it was legal, I won't have to leave my wife and marry a guy? Oh...that changes my viewpoint on this! Posts: 420 | From: Oxford, PA | Registered: Nov 2005
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The only argument I see against gay marriage is the moral one. So fine, let it be a "civil" thing and do not force churches to do it. Otherwise, let them have the legal stance. I just don't see how giving them legal status hurts society.
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Churches are not now, nor have they ever been in this country, forced to marry anybody.
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What initially seemed like a new hobby reached a crisis point last fall when an uncle encountered Bob's profile on a popular gay dating site: manhunt.net. .
Okay but why was the uncle looking at this web-site??
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quote:Originally posted by Doug4.7: The only argument I see against gay marriage is the moral one. So fine, let it be a "civil" thing and do not force churches to do it. Otherwise, let them have the legal stance. I just don't see how giving them legal status hurts society.
But they (the government) CAN'T legally force churches to do it in the first place, even if it were legal to make it a civil union. I don't understand why people can't just let it be that way, (allow legal unions but the churchs will continue to not marry or marry them as they choose) but some folks are all for legislating morality and I don't know how to get through to them. *shrug*
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By the logic of the OP I not only should be gay I should be faaaaboulosly, flamingly queer. After all I have two gay parents, therefore they raised me with teh Homosexual Agenda and forced me to be gay. Yeah right.
Just for reference my mother and her girlfriend have been together for 22 years, have stuck by each other through thick and thin, survived an affair and still make each other laugh, usually at their students. My dad and his SO have been together 10 years and are still comitted to each other. I guess my Grandma's not a proper Christian because she welcomed him into the family and treated him as such, along with everybody else in the family. THAT's family values.
ETA, I forgot to mention this glurge reminds me of what my mom told me about her Catholic upbringing, how she wasn't allowed to read certain books, listen to certain music or attend any other church. It didn't work for her it won't work for anyone else.
quote:Originally posted by Doug4.7: The only argument I see against gay marriage is the moral one. So fine, let it be a "civil" thing and do not force churches to do it. Otherwise, let them have the legal stance. I just don't see how giving them legal status hurts society.
But they (the government) CAN'T legally force churches to do it in the first place, even if it were legal to make it a civil union. I don't understand why people can't just let it be that way, (allow legal unions but the churchs will continue to not marry or marry them as they choose) but some folks are all for legislating morality and I don't know how to get through to them. *shrug*
I would agree with you.
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quote:Originally posted by HotBlondeMom: Imagine you're on a large boat hoping to get to the other side of Lake Michigan when one man insists he has a right to drill a hole through the bottom of his side of the boat.
So three pages later and I'm the only one finding the humor of talking about drills and bottoms in anti-gay glurge.
Perhaps that's the true downfall of civilization
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quote:Originally posted by HotBlondeMom: Imagine you're on a large boat hoping to get to the other side of Lake Michigan when one man insists he has a right to drill a hole through the bottom of his side of the boat.
So three pages later and I'm the only one finding the humor of talking about drills and bottoms in anti-gay glurge.
Perhaps that's the true downfall of civilization
After a few days of thought, I finally realized the problem with his arguement:
He sees gay marriage as the equivalent of drilling a hole in the boat... I see it as the equivalent of putting up a set of curtains over the porthole...
-Rogue
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If the woman is so worried about her 7 year old daughter having sex during sleepovers, I wonder how she will react if she ever realizes-- people can have sex during DAYLIGHT HOURS!!!one1!!!
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Good Christians don't have sex during the day. And they most certainly don't do it with the lights on. Proper couples should be married, have borne several children, and never once seen their spouse naked.
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quote:Originally posted by glisp42: By the logic of the OP I not only should be gay I should be faaaaboulosly, flamingly queer. After all I have two gay parents, therefore they raised me with teh Homosexual Agenda and forced me to be gay. Yeah right.
You were saved from teh gay because society did not allow same-sex marriage. If they had, you would have been gay. Since society didn't allow teh gay marriage, you realized that it was wrong to be gay and you decided not to be gay.
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quote:Originally posted by TrishDaDish: Good Christians don't have sex during the day. And they most certainly don't do it with the lights on. Proper couples should be married, have borne several children, and never once seen their spouse naked.
I guess they forgot to tell me about that part...
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Why Genyus(apt) you're right! As soon as they legalise it I'm going to have to stop living the lie, throw over my facade and start prancing around in mini skirts!
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quote:Originally posted by GenYus: You were saved from teh gay because society did not allow same-sex marriage. If they had, you would have been gay. Since society didn't allow teh gay marriage, you realized that it was wrong to be gay and you decided not to be gay.
Although, to be fair, when I hear the typical arguments against same-sex marriage, that's often how I feel.
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quote:Originally posted by glisp42: By the logic of the OP I not only should be gay I should be faaaaboulosly, flamingly queer. After all I have two gay parents, therefore they raised me with teh Homosexual Agenda and forced me to be gay. Yeah right.
You were saved from teh gay because society did not allow same-sex marriage. If they had, you would have been gay. Since society didn't allow teh gay marriage, you realized that it was wrong to be gay and you decided not to be gay.
As if gay people have never been in sham marriages before.
This glurge is a shopping list of conservative buzz words and images:
1. Liberal teachers undermining "traditional" societal rules (Ms. McMillan and her boyfriend are domestic partners) 2. Fear of one's child being a homosexual (would she experiment?) 3. "biblical perspective" 4. All liberal policies are bad for business the gay marriage was hurting the insurance industry. 5. Taxes are bad 6. Social Security is bad 7. Persecution of Churches by Liberals
What gets me about the non relevant details that were put into this story to make it read like a novel is that the anti-tax and anti-social security messages are a contradiction to a common theme throughout the bible: God commands us to help the poor. "Christians" like our president think that this mean personal charity and not social policy.
Hot Blonde if you want to catch your co-worker in a quandry look up some quotes from the Bible that are in opposition to Conservative economic policy. Or their busybody social (sexual) concerns:
Matthew 7:3 "Why do you notice the splinter in your brother's eye, but do not perceive the wooden beam is in your own eye?"
If your co-worker believes that homosexuality is a sin then she is entitled to her belief and she should not be a homosexual. She can teach her children not to be gay and hopefully they aren't and won't grow up to find that they are, because they would have a real problem coming out to their parents.
I wonder about some of those filler details:
"The meeting ended an hour ago, but Doug had us stay around to debrief"
"Debrief" isn't the guy an insurance exec? "Debrief" makes it sound like he works for CIA.
Or maybe they're taking off each others' briefs in a big gay orgy.
"Don't worry" Honey "nobody's debriefing me while on away on business" Bunching Oats
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