quote:Originally posted by robbiev427: Sitting here at work...looking through a bag of candy one of the bosses gave me yesterday, I find a candycane that has red, yellow, blue, and green stripes (seriously).
I wonder what that means?
You have obviously been given a false candy cane by your evil boss trying to lead you astray. It is probably fruit-flavored, too, and we all know what that means.
You should quit your job and start repenting, NOW!
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Comment: the article about John Micheal Montgomery's song "the little girl" put a tear in my eye. This song touched me deeply because a lot of kids do not know what other kids go through. I have a good life, after looking back on the rumor made me want to visit little children. Thank You, you touched me greatly.
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quote:Originally posted by snopes: Comment: the article about John Micheal Montgomery's song "the little girl" put a tear in my eye. This song touched me deeply because a lot of kids do not know what other kids go through. I have a good life, after looking back on the rumor made me want to visit little children. Thank You, you touched me greatly
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Comment: To Whom it May Concern, I agree that the orgin of the candy cane is not traced back to Indiana. I'm afraid a few people have twisted the story to their liking. It is also seems to be true that candy canes were first white. Despite your revelation of truths there are some very serious gliches on your write up. The largest does not help your argument in the least and is unsupported by research. Santa is not a myth. The character is based on St. Nicholas of Turkey. He is celebrated today in England. The Reformation brought about different celebratory focuses and time has added twists, just as in the story of the candy cane. If the story of the candy cane is more false than the obvious twists I first listed, why do you not give more evidence that it is truly unChristian? It seems you don't know where the candy cane really came from, so you play it off by saying that most people don't think about it. Right you are, but none the less it is wrong to discredit the fact that Christian symbology is in this candy treat. You can't discredit some things about Christianity no matter how many sorces you sight! Merry CHRISTmas!
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quote:Originally posted by snopes: Comment: To Whom it May Concern, I agree that the orgin of the candy cane is not traced back to Indiana. I'm afraid a few people have twisted the story to their liking. It is also seems to be true that candy canes were first white. Despite your revelation of truths there are some very serious gliches on your write up. The largest does not help your argument in the least and is unsupported by research. Santa is not a myth. The character is based on St. Nicholas of Turkey. He is celebrated today in England. The Reformation brought about different celebratory focuses and time has added twists, just as in the story of the candy cane. If the story of the candy cane is more false than the obvious twists I first listed, why do you not give more evidence that it is truly unChristian? It seems you don't know where the candy cane really came from, so you play it off by saying that most people don't think about it. Right you are, but none the less it is wrong to discredit the fact that Christian symbology is in this candy treat. You can't discredit some things about Christianity no matter how many sorces you sight! Merry CHRISTmas!
I just love how a lunatic fringe has made "Merry Christmas" an epithet to be yelled (or snarled) at evil heathen.
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quote:Santa is not a myth. The character is based on St. Nicholas of Turkey.
So being "based on" a real person makes you no longer a myth? Wow do you realize how many literary characters are no longer myths by this logic?
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The info represented as false is, indeed, false. The facts at this site are true. Sorry to all the haters out there, but the candy cane is Christian in origin.
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quote:Originally posted by snopes: The info represented as false is, indeed, false. The facts at this site are true.
We have already established that what's false is false. However, the information at that site differs from the truth, and is therefore false. A falsity is not true. If it's true it's not false. That's not so difficult to understand, is it?
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Comment: You liberal trashy anti-Christian losers are known to be liars and only spreading so-called "truths" that you agree on. Facts are a secondary priority.
You have been contacted many times to change your all-out lies regarding several of your stories, but simply choose to ignore those who contact you. Ok, go to sleep knowing you are both sleazy, stinky (I'm certain), fat ass (I'm also certain), uneducated (certain of that, too) LIARS.
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Candy canes are apparently serious business now. Wow. I had no idea so many people could take umbrage at the origins of a peppermint stick...
quote: Ok, go to sleep knowing you are both sleazy, stinky (I'm certain), fat ass (I'm also certain), uneducated (certain of that, too) LIARS.
Oh dear! Snopes, how can you sleep at night knowing you're hated by such top-notch insulters?
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Comment: You have an Urban legend listed as false which is true. It is about the Nasa team using the scripture from Joshua to correct errors in tracking the shuttle. While the facts and names that have come through in this legend are not accurate, the stroy is correct. You see, my father who worked for Nasa was the Nasa consultant who went tothe bible study and made this sugesstion and change in the computer tracking program. PLease feel free to contact me for the correct data for htis story. I appreciate your research, but this particular story was researched incorrectly.
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quote:Originally posted by snopes: While the facts and names that have come through in this legend are not accurate, the stroy is correct.
Well, the stroy may be correct...but Merriam-Webster tells me it's obsolete:
quote:Main Entry: stroy Function: verb Etymology: Middle English stroyen, short for destroyen obsolete : DESTROY
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quote:Comment: You have an Urban legend listed as false which is true. It is about the Nasa team using the scripture from Joshua to correct errors in tracking the shuttle. While the facts and names that have come through in this legend are not accurate, the stroy is correct. You see, my father who worked for Nasa was the Nasa consultant who went tothe bible study and made this sugesstion and change in the computer tracking program. PLease feel free to contact me for the correct data for htis story. I appreciate your research, but this particular story was researched incorrectly.
Call this person's bluff, snopes. I wouldn't mind having a little fun today.
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quote:Originally posted by Joe Bentley: Santa is not a myth. The character is based on St. Nicholas of Turkey.
When asked to perform as Santa for a multi-ethnic mid-winter party, I research a number of mythologies to see whether the "jolly, gift-giver / implacable judge" figure is a common archetype. Sure enough, this character shows up in MANY pre-Christian beliefs: Norse: Jolly Odin, bringer of prosperity / Dark Nicanor, bringer of chaos Roman: Jolly Jupiter, bringer of mirth and flinger of lightning bolts Sicilian pagan: The Grandmother, who fills the stockings of good children with treats and leaves a lump of coal for the brats Hindu: Durga, bringer of blessings and is also Kali, the Destroyer Plains Indian (authochthones) : Coyote, the benevolent creator and mischeivous prankster and, of course Saint Nicholas, rewarder of the devout, but is attended by Black Peter, who tweaks the naughty and dumps the truly recalcitrant into his bag (which apparently contains a portal to Hell).
I could NOT find such a character in Jewish tradition. My Jewish boss explained it: "We are not really a "jolly" people..."
Finally, I note that the candy cane, sweet and pious symbol of the season, can be sucked to a point sharp enough to hold up a gas station.
quote:Originally posted by snopes: Comment: You liberal trashy anti-Christian losers are known to be liars and only spreading so-called "truths" that you agree on. Facts are a secondary priority.
You have been contacted many times to change your all-out lies regarding several of your stories, but simply choose to ignore those who contact you. Ok, go to sleep knowing you are both sleazy, stinky (I'm certain), fat ass (I'm also certain), uneducated (certain of that, too) LIARS.
ahhhhhhhhh, the classic I have no real argument so I'm going to resort to name calling tactic. An oldie but a goodie. Why do I keep thinking this was written by Pred Pelps?
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quote:Originally posted by snopes: Comment: You liberal trashy anti-Christian losers are known to be liars and only spreading so-called "truths" that you agree on. Facts are a secondary priority.
You have been contacted many times to change your all-out lies regarding several of your stories, but simply choose to ignore those who contact you. Ok, go to sleep knowing you are both sleazy, stinky (I'm certain), fat ass (I'm also certain), uneducated (certain of that, too) LIARS.
Ouch. We've been collectively pwned.
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quote:Originally posted by snopes: Ok, go to sleep knowing you are both sleazy, stinky (I'm certain), fat ass (I'm also certain), uneducated (certain of that, too) LIARS.
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Comment: It is understandable that you don't want the article on candy canes "reproduced without permission". I find it strange that your facts about candy canes are taken from, for the most part, newspapers who have the reputaion of misrepresenting anything that they don't agree with. As long as it sells newpapers, who cares wether it's the truth or not. Now you're stating things as facts on unreliable information. I assure you I won't be looking at your site again and that I willl mention it to my friends that do.
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OK, so once again, we are talking about the spiritual significance of candy canes, here, right?
Those little twisty vaguely pepperminty candies that come in boxes of, like, 500, of which half are broken? The ones that, when somebody brings a box into work, you're still stuck with a bunch of random stale ones rattling 'round on top of a filing cabinet until April?
...Wow. It's really not often you run into the phrase 'get a life' so elegantly illustrated.
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quote:newspapers who have the reputaion of misrepresenting anything that they don't agree with. As long as it sells newpapers, who cares wether it's the truth or not.
As opposed to those impeccable sources of truth, children's books such as J Is for Jesus.
The info represented as false is, indeed, false. The facts at this site are true. Sorry to all the haters out there, but the candy cane is Christian in origin.
You mean the site that says
quote:Legend states the beginnings of the candy cane are Christian.
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quote:Originally posted by snopes: How dare you try to take the Christ out of peppermint sticks!
I also like to take the Christ out of icicle. And jingle bells.
But not out of egg nog. Some good Jesus in egg nog makes the holidays worthwhile.
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Boy, now I feel totally guilty for letting the little guys go all stale like that...not to mention the time my Mom accidentally packed some away with the ornaments and they liquefied in their plastic wrap, like little pepperminty Freezies. Weird.
(Hey, if I drink liquefied candy-cane, do I get any bonus faith points? I'm thinking this could really revolutionise midnight Mass.)
Except, come to think of it, the pina colada-flavoured ones. Pretty sure those suckers were about Satan testing the believers again, or something. The root-beer ones were maybe an intermediate test.
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quote:Originally posted by Shoebox: Boy, now I feel totally guilty for letting the little guys go all stale like that...
TEH LROD cannot go stale.
Heretic.
quote:not to mention the time my Mom accidentally packed some away with the ornaments and they liquefied in their plastic wrap, like little pepperminty Freezies.
Witchcraft! Witchcraft!
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Comment: It is sad that people like you sit around trying to think of ways to ruin people's views on CHRISTmas traditions. Why on earth would the candy cane be so closely related to CHRISTmas if it had nothing to do with CHRIST? I think that maybe, just maybe, if you focused a little less on feeding your brain with useless knowledge (that couldn't be proven anyway because who are you to say what the original candy-maker was thinking when making the candy cane?)then maybe your brain might gain some realization and tell your body to grow a heart.
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quote:It is sad that people like you sit around trying to think of ways to ruin people's views on CHRISTmas traditions. Why on earth would the candy cane be so closely related to CHRISTmas if it had nothing to do with CHRIST?
Oh my word. That has got to be the dumbest bit of logic I've seen in a while. Because, of course, snow and Christmas trees are representive of Christ, right? And wreaths?
Good Lord.
quote:I think that maybe, just maybe, if you focused a little less on feeding your brain with useless knowledge (that couldn't be proven anyway because who are you to say what the original candy-maker was thinking when making the candy cane?)
Insecure much? And my word, it's like they're not even reading the page.
And I would figure the more useless knowledge is the belief in an urban legend. But what do I know?
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quote:Oh my word. That has got to be the dumbest bit of logic I've seen in a while. Because, of course, snow and Christmas trees are representive of Christ, right? And wreaths?
And red-nosed reindeers, don't forget them...
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quote:Oh my word. That has got to be the dumbest bit of logic I've seen in a while. Because, of course, snow and Christmas trees are representive of Christ, right? And wreaths?
And red-nosed reindeers, don't forget them...
And how do you think he got the red nose? It's the Blood of Christ man.
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Comment: Do you believe in Jesus yourselves? Because after reading all of that jargon about candy canes not representing Jesus it just seems to me that your trying to tear down any kind of christian symbolism. Were you around when the candycane was invented? Then I wonder how authentic your reliable sources truely are. The only thing that really matters is what it means to us as individuals so you can just believe whatever you want but I believe it to be a wonderful story and lesson that shows us Christ's love.
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quote:Originally posted by snopes: Comment: Do you believe in Jesus yourselves?
Upon reading some of the e-mails that get posted in this forum, I often find myself saying, "Jesus Christ!"
Does that count?
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quote:Were you around when the candycane was invented? Then I wonder how authentic your reliable sources truely are.
This argument really burns me up.
You have your cites and sources, but you weren't there, so they can't be good.
I have this book from 2,000 years ago, but even though I wasn't there when it was written, God tells me it's superior to your cites and sources.
May the gods of logic have mercy on their souls.
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quote:I believe it to be a wonderful story and lesson that shows us Christ's love.
Christ rots your teeth.
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quote:Were you around when the candycane was invented? Then I wonder how authentic your reliable sources truely are.
This argument really burns me up.
You have your cites and sources, but you weren't there, so they can't be good.
I have this book from 2,000 years ago, but even though I wasn't there when it was written, God tells me it's superior to your cites and sources.
May the gods of logic have mercy on their souls.
Ah, but those would be false gods and a good Christian would have nothing to do with them.
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quote:Originally posted by NorthernLite: Ah, but those would be false gods and a good Christian would have nothing to do with them.
Which will make the looks on the faces of these people all the more priceless, no?
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