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Squirt

I know women can do this but still this has to fake. The first squirt at least.

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W...T...F???

Men don't ejaculate with that much force (or that quantity!), so how a woman could is beyond me. I tick the "fake" box.

I have heard of female ejaculation - don't know a great deal about it but I believed that the quantity of fluid was very small. (I've tried to Google and get nothing but adult sites - can't find anything medically objective)

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Could be urine, I suppose.

She definitely looks traumatised by the orgasm, which suggests a pretty extreme one. A loss of control plus strong contractions may have emptied her bladder.

If it's a fake it's a damn good one,and the woman one hell of an actress.

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I'd say that it's not an ejaculation per se. My money's on the urine, too.

I think it's a combination of a fairly strong climax and a full bladder, personally.

Also, if you can stand to watch it to the end, as the camera pulls away, you can see that the floor in front of this woman is covered in taped-together black-bin-liner sacks, so it looks as if it was intentional.

I suspect it was "staged" for the "golden showers" market.

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Originally posted by A plain-TALK-ing Yorkshirewoman TM:

My money's on the urine, too.

Urine the money!

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Seriously....

That is a vaginal ejaculation of grand proportion. It can't be urine. It comes out in too much quantity too quickly. A urethral opening will not pass that much urine that fast. Only the vaginal opening could do that.

There are other clues too. The dude is obviously nailing her G-spot hard with that vibrator. For women who ejaculate, that is how it gets started. Stimulating the "roof" of the vagina is the trigger. Another clue is her lengthy uncontrollable spasms that go way beyond typical. Look at her, she's not in control for a long time even after the squirt.

There is a porn subculture of "squirters". This is the 3rd video I've seen of the phenomena and it's the most extreme. I had a g/f that did too; about 1 in 20 orgasms.

It's not urine.

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quote:
Originally posted by Barns & No Bull:
Seriously....

That is a vaginal ejaculation of grand proportion. It can't be urine. It comes out in too much quantity too quickly. A urethral opening will not pass that much urine that fast. Only the vaginal opening could do that.

There are other clues too. The dude is obviously nailing her G-spot hard with that vibrator. For women who ejaculate, that is how it gets started. Stimulating the "roof" of the vagina is the trigger. Another clue is her lengthy uncontrollable spasms that go way beyond typical. Look at her, she's not in control for a long time even after the squirt.

There is a porn subculture of "squirters". This is the 3rd video I've seen of the phenomena and it's the most extreme. I had a g/f that did too; about 1 in 20 orgasms.

It's not urine.

Ok, I wish I hadn't seen that. The vaginal opening is fairly large to get that amount of presure for the distance shot. I take it your not a woman. Anyway notice the placement of the mans hand on the womans ureathral opening. If you were a woman who ever tried to pee standing up you would know this is how you direct the stream. Most likely it is urine. If not urine I call pure fake from something in or under the mans hand. I don't see how this could be real. If such a spectacular occurance of this phenom existed why isn't there more medical info on it. As far as I know doctors are still a little confused on whether such a thing is actually ejaculate (there seems to be some basis for this due to certain enzymes) or if it is incontenance. If cases like hers existed I think the debate would be over.

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I'm not a woman, but I lived with one for 4 years who was a "squirter".

The fluid that squirts out is odd. It's semi-viscous, a little thinner than typical male ejaculate. It's slippery and has a distinct silvery sheen - like how some hair conditioners look like there's a silvery color in there - maybe an irridescence you could say.

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Ok, according to this site:

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I hate to be the barer of bad news, but the chances are, the women seen ejaculating in adult movies are most likely urinating, not ejaculating.
That's not to say women can't ejaculate, just that the ones in adult films are probably faking it.

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Interesting article, and here is a quote from it...

How Much Liquid is Released?

The amount of fluid released by the paraurethral glands is reported to vary from a couple drops to almost two cups, 15 ounces [444 ml]. Two cups is a lot of liquid, can it really be that much? The paraurethral glands surround the urethra in an area about half an inch [1.25 cm] in diameter and 1.5 inches [3.8 cm] in length. An area of this size when filled with water can hold 0.163 oz [4.8 ml]. Even if the glands were to swell to fill an area 1 inch (2.5 cm] in diameter and 2 inches [5 cm] in length they could still only hold 0.87 oz [26 ml]. If the paraurethral glands can store less than 1 oz of liquid where does the other 14 ounces come from? Keep in mind these glands will continue to produce fluid for as long as a woman is sexually aroused, and as result a woman could produce more than 1 oz of ejaculate if multiple, or a continuous, releases of fluid occurred. One study found women produced 30 to 50 ccs [7 to 15 oz][30 to 50 ml] in 30 to 50 seconds. To produce this much fluid the glands would need to fill and empty once or more times per second. That means the paraurethral glands would need to produce 3 to 5 ccs [0.23 to 0.30 oz][3 to 5 ml] per second on average. If the paraurethral glands do have the capacity to fill and empty at a rapid rate, that would explain the large volumes of fluid measured by some investigators. It would also mean the longer a woman's orgasm lasted, the more she would ejaculate; as is often the case. If this is all true, it is possible for a woman to ejaculate a considerable amount of fluid without it being urine or liquid from the bladder. Obviously, more research needs to be done to clarify this; perhaps using ultrasound to observe the glands during sexual arousal and orgasm.

Obviously, there is skepticism within the article, but it does cite studies that found big quantities of female ejaculate. My g/f was able to drench the sheets with 2 huge contractions, that actually lifted her ass off the bed. It was NOT urine. Sorry, TMI.

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A few months ago I did some extensive reading about female ejaculation, and the site that Wildabeast linked to was one of the one's I read. I don't remember if it was there, or somewhere else, but it was suggested that more women may ejaculate, than are aware of it, because some may actually ejaculate inward, towards the cervix, rather than outward, towards the vaginal opening.

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Originally posted by Barns & No Bull:
One study found women produced 30 to 50 ccs [7 to 15 oz][30 to 50 ml] in 30 to 50 seconds. To produce this much fluid the glands would need to fill and empty once or more times per second...

This doesn't fit the video. The action described in the article you cited above would only result in a slight flow of oozing liquid at 1cc/second. That's a lot, almost superhuman by normal standards, but is nowhere near the geyser seen in the video. The girl in the video produced one hell of a lot more than 1cc per second. With a semi-viscous fluid, the pressure reuired would be even more. In order for the girl in the video to produce that much liquid and be able to get the pressure required to shoot for that distance, she would have to have 'stored' it up for sudden release. Say, in her bladder, for example. I'm going with urine.[/qb][/QUOTE]
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Originally posted by Barns & No Bull:
Obviously, there is skepticism within the article, but it does cite studies that found big quantities of female ejaculate. My g/f was able to drench the sheets with 2 huge contractions, that actually lifted her ass off the bed. It was NOT urine. Sorry, TMI.

If your girlfriend's ass came off the bed, it was muscle contraction and had nothing to do with fluid pressure, like you seem to suggest.

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Slightly off-topic, sorry:

The girl in the video seems to have an extremely long orgasm without any additional stimulation. Forgive my naiveness, but is it even possible?! [Eek!]

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quote:
Originally posted by WonkoTheSane:
If your girlfriend's ass came off the bed, it was muscle contraction and had nothing to do with fluid pressure, like you seem to suggest.

You are confusing cause and effect.

The contraction causes the gush Wonko. Two huge contractions, each with a corresponding gush. I had to get my face out of the way, or I would have had a gender-reversed "facial". There was about 2 ounces (shotglasses) per contraction.

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quote:
Originally posted by Oualawouzou:
Slightly off-topic, sorry:

The girl in the video seems to have an extremely long orgasm without any additional stimulation. Forgive my naiveness, but is it even possible?! [Eek!]

Read my earlier response in this thread. That's one of the characteristics of a gusher. The orgasms are almost violent and lengthy. It comes from working the roof (G-spot) hard.

The porn industry has sought out and highlighted "squirters". There are websites devoted to it (with videos) and there are "stars". These are women who can consistently do it and with sufficient volume to make an impression on video. It's not faked.

Only partially off topic...there is a male star named Peter North who has a ridiculously large and powerful ejaculation. Anyone who saw it would say FAKE. It's not, and he is a star because of it.

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From what I saw in the video, there was alot of fluid, and it was very long. I understand that some women ejaculate, but that is like [Eek!] !

I vote fake because of the amount and length of the whole thing.

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quote:
Originally posted by Barns & No Bull:
[QUOTE]The contraction causes the gush Wonko. Two huge contractions, each with a corresponding gush. I had to get my face out of the way, or I would have had a gender-reversed "facial". There was about 2 ounces (shotglasses) per contraction.

I was only saying that in direct rebuttal of what you seemed to imply in your post. I'm not confusing anything, but I withdraw what I said.

Even if your girlfriend produced the astonishing 2 ounces per contraction, this still goes nowhere NEAR what the girl in the video is producing.

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Thanks Barns. [Smile]

G-Spot is still an issue that confuses me, so I started a thread elsewhere to gather a little info... If you know more on the subject, I'd very much like to hear what you have to say. [Smile]

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quote:
Originally posted by Oualawouzou:
Thanks Barns. [Smile]

G-Spot is still an issue that confuses me, so I started a thread elsewhere to gather a little info... If you know more on the subject, I'd very much like to hear what you have to say. [Smile]

Yes, more to say. My g/f would only ejaculate after intense stimulation of the vagina roof (what gets called G-spot) with simultaneous clitoral stimulation. Clit stim. alone would not cause it to happen. Notice in the video that the guy is directing that dildo onto her G-spot. He has it aimed in and up. It's because this girl is probably famous for this and they all know what's necessary to trigger it. If she is just pissing out urine, why all the special attention? And why isn't she just doing "golden shower" scenes instead of "female ejaculator" scenes?

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The color and appearance is consistent with female ejaculation. I'm not sure about the amount of it, but female ejaculations can come out with that much pressure/force. Female ejaculatory fluid is chemically similar to male seminal fluid (the juice minus the sperm), and actually does come out of a woman's urethra, not her vaginal orifice.

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quote:
Originally posted by Barns & No Bull:
If she is just pissing out urine, why all the special attention? And why isn't she just doing "golden shower" scenes instead of "female ejaculator" scenes?

Because "female ejaculator" scenes are more likely to bring in the bacon because of its perceived weirdness. And how do we know she isn't also doing golden shower scenes? Surely it must be true, after all, we all know the porn websites that promise video of a girl's "first time" are also true. Why would they lie just to make money?

Look, this isn't an attack. I know that female ejaculation exists and that medicine somewhat understands the mechanics behind it. I just don't see any evidence that the amount of fluid and force behind what's seen in the OP is possible without at least some level of outside 'interference'. I say urine because that's what's closest to my understanding. It could be something else. But I can't believe this is unaided, un-tampered with female ejaculation until I see evidence that it's possible. Why is it that only the pornos seem to have this information?

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I'm not taking this as an attack, so don't worry about that.

She could be pissing. But what makes me doubt that is a few things.

The dude does an unusual "tactic" in this instance. He puts that dildo right on her G-spot. That is what you do to cause the squirt. Two other squirt videos did the same thing except the partner used fingers instead. If she were only pissing, why not just stand around and film her piss?

She goes through the extended, violent, out-of-control orgasm that is typical of "significant" squirters. It includes tremors and what my g/f called "aftershocks" - 5 seconds or so after the main initial orgasm second and thrird ones would come spontaneously without any manual stimulation. The woman becomes something like a animated wind-up toy that is not in control of itself.

Urine tends to come out in a stream. You can modulate it somewhat voluntarily. But this woman has several big "gushes" that coincide with muscular contractions.

Why do only pornos have this info?

It's not the info that pornos have, as much as it is the quest and payment of "circus freak" type people. Medical research looks for means and averages and isn't much interested in sexual freaks for its routine work. Doctors will tell you the average and the range of male ejaculate volume. But Peter North is way outside that domain. He is a freak that can shoot about two ounces of semen 5 feet. Medical science should say that Peter North doesn't exist.

Why is there an underlying philosophy running through this thread that everyone must be average?

PS: I could very well be wrong about where the fluid comes from. After reading the article linked above, I'm pretty sure my assumption was wrong.

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I will add that medical research of this type is generally done on a voluntary basis. Researchers ask for volunteers to participate in a study (and are paid a little for their time). It is not like a military draft. Researchers generally don't call upon people like this super gusher chick or Peter North even if they do know about them. So when you read scientific texts about human biology it is not necessarily going to express the extremes with any specificity.

Further, neither this woman nor Peter North are likely to go to a doctor about their "condition". Both are making a living off of it. We do get detailed medical accounts of situations like human giants and elephantiasis (which creates beanbag chair-sized scrotums) because they need special medical attention for their "condition".

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In all fairness, in spite of my confidence, there is no real way for me to know if that is really all female ejaculate. It could be partially or entirely urine.

My personal experiences show that this is a real phenomena that women experience. But the volume of liquid in that video should cause anyone to have some skepticsm. I don't want to clobber anyone with confident arrogance.

Now somebody go and find some more of these videos. We need a data set [Big Grin]

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If it is fake that doesn't mean it's urine, they could have 'filled' her with water or other liquid and had her hold it until the scene called for the gusher.

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Here's a friend of a friend story. OK, not that removed.

A good friend had a g/f that gushed. Not seeped. Gushed. He told me about it, but I really didn't understand. They spent a weekend at my place in the college apartment. I was nice enough the give them my bed, me the couch (a really good friend). Did I mention that I didn't understand?

Sunday AM, they're leaving. They seem in a hurry. Out the door, I go into my room, there's a freaking PUDDLE on the bed. I cannot express to you how much it was (note that I can't/won't look at the video being referenced - it's a work thing). It was an inch deep (saggy mattress) and a yard long - ish.

I managed to catch them before they drove away, laughing, while I stood outside applauding.

Wasn't pee, was translucent sort of, as explained in the thread in NFBSK section.

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quote:
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If it is fake that doesn't mean it's urine, they could have 'filled' her with water or other liquid and had her hold it until the scene called for the gusher.

Since it's coming out as a stream, it would have to be out of her urethra (unless they crammed some sort of device up her vagina, which I think is unlikely).

I seriously doubt she would subject herself to a sort of "reverse catheter" just for a radio stunt.

I knew a squirter. It was impressive, but not on this scale.

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Theres a name in the URL. If you plug that into Google you get a mess of related links, including what seemed to be the video's backstory. Seems shes pretty famous.

No, I didnt go research this. My friend did. Yeah.

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"Squirters Rule!

Cytherea seems so shy and innocent, with her classy good looks and conservative glasses. But underneath, this girl is a sex obsessed nympho beyond compare! She makes the most glorious sex faces - twisted expressions that reflect the multiple orgasms racking her pussy. And best of all, this girl squirts in buckets!

We're not exaggerating. You know when you put thumb over the tip of a hose? Yes, her explosive squirt in this movie is that strong. If you think we're lying, check it out for yourself, pal!"

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I want to know why we have recently had a number of threads asking about whether specific porno scenes are real.

I'm not really a prude, but I don't think these have anything to do with Urban Legends, and as such, don't belong in the "is this real" forums. There are children (minors) who read this web site; let's try to keep things a bit less graphic, don't you think? If you want to discuss this type of adult subjects, at least let's put them in the NFBSK forums.....

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What?

There is a real question that was posed about whether this scene was "faked" or real. This was the OP... "I know women can do this but still this has to fake. The first squirt at least." The poster put the desired *NFBSK* in the title. I do see why one could ask which is the best category for it.

But how on earth is putting it in the NFBSK category going to keep kids from reading it any more than here? Do kids have some natural instinct not to click on NFBSK? What kid knows what that means, and if they did know what would stop them from looking? And what if an American kid took the category title literally?

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maybe she's really practiced her Kegels

some women have really good muscle control down there. I personally did not see a thin stream, i saw a wide spray, high but pretty wide.

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But how on earth is putting it in the NFBSK category going to keep kids from reading it any more than here?
The classification is only intended to be an informative warning, not a prohibitive gatekeeper.

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Tristan Taromino's book Pucker Up (paperback title, "Down & Dirty Sex Secrets" - ugh)describes many different types of female ejaculators -- from a few drops to cups-full-soaking-the-bed. She also describes women being able to shoot multiple streams after orgasming. (TMI: In college I had a friend who had to use a towel or a disposable hospital chuck under her when having sex because she released so much fluid. She was very embarrassed by it and thought it was urine until reading about female ejaculation).

And Ladas, Whipple, and Perry's book, The G Spot researched that the composition of female ejaculate is mostly prostatic fluid (similar to what is secreted by the male's prostate gland). It is not urine - doesn't smell or feel like it.

As for the clip, I think that it is authentic, and that she is someone with an unusual amount who has learned how to get maximum shock value out of it. I don't think they used a douche or any articifical fluids, as with the amount of pressure he's using you would definitely see some leakage before the explosion. Anyway, it's pretty amazing, and now she's a star! [lol]

Even the cameraman sounded shocked - Stressa [lol]

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quote:
Originally posted by My Stressa Valentine:
As for the clip, I think that it is authentic, and that she is someone with an unusual amount who has learned how to get maximum shock value out of it. I don't think they used a douche or any artifical fluids, as with the amount of pressure he's using you would definitely see some leakage before the explosion. Anyway, it's pretty amazing, and now she's a star! [lol] Even the cameraman sounded shocked - Stressa [lol]

From what I see on the 3 different clips, she was apparently quite a star before this particular exhibition. From what Barns & No Bull posted
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We're not exaggerating. You know when you put thumb over the tip of a hose? Yes, her explosive squirt in this movie is that strong. If you think we're lying, check it out for yourself, pal!" Cytherea
she is apparently a porn star with quite a few films to her credit.

Amazing, just amazing.

CAUTION Before clicking on the link that Barns & No Bull posted be aware that it leads directly to a serious porn site. But I'll bet you guessed that already!

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