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Chimera
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This is a quick, stupid Ketchup question. Does ketchup need to be refridgerated? Durring a cook out someone was disturbed the condiments sat out on the table the whole time. I usually refridgerate ketchup once open but I didn't do so when I was younger. I never got sick but it also didn't stay around for long. I looked over the bottle and it didn't say to refridgerate but salt packages don't clarify that it is to be put on food either. So the refrigeration of ketchup may just be assumed as common knowledge. But I've been to diners that have ketchup and mustard bottles on the tabble. So does anyone know how long ketchup can go unrefridgerated once open?

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From my own experience with leaving ketchup out as much as a whole weekend and suffering no ill effects, I'd say it's O.K. Besides, ketchup was sold as a "convenience food" before the advent of the average household having a refrigerator (before the things were actually even in use, I think).

Even so, I usually refrigerate my ketchup. I also refrigerate jelly, which I've been told doesn't need it, either.

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I found this, from this website
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Q: DOES KETCHUP NEEDS TO BE REFRIGERATED, ESPECIALLY SINCE RESTAURANTS LEAVE KETCHUP ON THE TABLE.

A: WE CALLED H-J HEINZ FOR YOUR ANSWER. IT SAYS REFRIGERATING KETCHUP KEEPS THE FLAVOR AT ITS PEAK. HOWEVER UNREFRIGERATED KETCHUP IS SAFE TO EAT. HOWEVER AFTER SEVERAL WEEKS AIR WILL DILUTE THE KETCHUP'S FLAVOR.

I also found this from this site
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Q. Do you need to refrigerate ketchup and mustard after they have been opened? R. Gauthier, Massachusetts

A. We referred your question to Donna Scott, a Food Safety Specialist with the Department of Food Science at the Cornell Cooperative Extension in New York. She advises storing both condiments in the refrigerator after opening. Despite their acidic ingredients, neither condiment is sufficiently acidic to kill bacteria and microorganisms, including mold, that may be introduced to the containers after opening. Refrigeration does not kill bacteria and microorganisms either, but does slow the growth. Refrigerated, ketchup should keep for up to 6 months; mustard, 1 year.

ETA: Straight from Heinz
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Should ketchup be refrigerated?

Because it is a very acidic product, ketchup does not spoil easily. Once opened, in order to maintain the product's quality more effectively, we do suggest that ketchup (and any other processed food) be refrigerated after opening because refrigeration retards spoilage.



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The vinegar in ketchup is a pretty good preservative. Many restaurants leave ketchup bottles on the tables during business hours. I'm not even sure they're refrigerated at night.
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The consensus seems to be "not necessarily." For example, the Food Keeper guide says that ketchup is safe in the pantry for a month. Other sites were not so specific, but indicated that an opened bottle of ketchup could be left out for some time.

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It sounds like it's a matter of prefference. On one hand, refrigeration preserves the flavor, on another hadn, cold katsup on fries isn't the best experience.

I still do it, possibly due to limited cupboard space and family tradition. Then again, my mom refrigerates boxes of Kraft Macaroni, so the whole refrigeraton thing is ingrained in me.

So does margarine need to be refrigerated? My mom leaves it on the counter during the winter and refrigerates it during the summer. Go figure... [Confused]

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Originally posted by resEnfbsks of fireLution:
So does margarine need to be refrigerated? My mom leaves it on the counter during the winter and refrigerates it during the summer. Go figure... [Confused]

If you mean the stuff that comes in tubs, like Country Crock, yes. My husband has wasted at least two tubs by leaving them out all night. They became sludge, and re-refrigerating them didn't help.

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It's probably safer to regrigerate it, but I never do. I can't stand to pour ice cold ketchup over food - it completely ruins it. You don't want to pour freezing cold sauce over piping hot food.

This is one of those silly little topics which divides people into two unswerving camps, with each side flatly refusing to accept the logic of the other. My girlfriend finds it disgusting that I don't put ketchup in the fridge and wouldn't do it any other way. Madness, I tells ya!

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Ketchup never stays around my house long enough to go bad. We can go through a big bottle in a week.
I love cold ketchup on fries! The mixture of cold and hot is delish.

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Tomato ketchup will keep for months unrefridgerated, I have never kept the stuff cold, including other similar condiments - In fact in the UK most folk I can think of that are applicable keep their sauce in the cupboard - as long as it is used in a reasonable space of time I can't think of any problems - this UK trend may be bacause of the size of british fridges - the relatively small dimensions mean that ketchup et al is kept in the pantry to leave space for the important things - like beer.... [Wink]

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I've always refridgerated it, and so does my Mom and my SO's Mom, I think.

Butter and margarine... my ex bf's family kept the butter spread in the cupboard but put the margarine tubs in the fridge. Sludge is a disgusting alternative.

Blocks of margarine, on the other hand, are a pain in the neck. Refrigerate them, and it rips open the bread when you try to spread it. Put them in the cupboard and they become cream... but not necessarily sludge. I find blocks are better for making KD (Mac & Cheese)... cooking and baking.

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quote:
Originally posted by guruwan2b:
Ketchup never stays around my house long enough to go bad. We can go through a big bottle in a week.
I love cold ketchup on fries! The mixture of cold and hot is delish.

Kim

Agreed and agreed! I refrigerate soy sauce, which isn't really necessary, since it's so salty, nothing can live in it. And I like the sensation of hot-and-cold food!

(The weirdest was when we put french-vanilla ice cream on top of a pepperoni pizza! It sounds ghastly...but it was really, really good!)

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ok another silly ketchup question. My son dumped the whole bottle in a closet. Luckily it was a hardwood floor and with some scrubing it came off. But when I started so scrub the walls I dicovered we had water based paint in the closet. The paint comes off ketchup stays!! Can I just spay some primer over this and forget it? Or does someone know how to clean it off? Its in the toy room so It was about 3 days before I even noticed thus scrubing not wiping.

chappell "it was refridgerated" 78

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I'm guessing your closet was never painted, and it's just taping mud there. Paint would not come off with water, but taping mud would. You will not be able to clean this. You need to paint your closet.

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Originally posted by chappell78:
ok another silly ketchup question. My son dumped the whole bottle in a closet. Luckily it was a hardwood floor and with some scrubing it came off. But when I started so scrub the walls I dicovered we had water based paint in the closet. The paint comes off ketchup stays!! Can I just spay some primer over this and forget it? Or does someone know how to clean it off? Its in the toy room so It was about 3 days before I even noticed thus scrubing not wiping.

chappell "it was refridgerated" 78

There is a paint product for covering stains. I think it is called Kilz, pronounced "kills". This should do the job. Use it as a primer and then put a latex paint over top.
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I prefer cold ketchup on my fries and hamburgers. Warm ketchup doesn't excite me in the least. My husband doesn't seem to care either way. I always keep it in the refrigerator because I like it cold. However, if I didn't have the space that is something I would feel very safe leaving out.
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I remember as a kid when Velveeta was sold in the refridgerated processed cheese section.

Now it's kept out in the aisle on a pallet.

So obviously that stuff's rugged enough to last...

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the fridge gets my vote. and i do love the cold/hot effect as well! syrup, jelly, peanut butter, mustard, mayo, butter, margarine, all condiments, in the fridge, thanks to the habits of my mom. even chocolate, like snickers, etc, went in the freezer. its no wonder i like extremes of food so well, the cold cold and hot hot.

wherever you decide to put your ketchup, please don't let it be on your eggs!!!

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Originally posted by metteee-a stur fry oor deee-a 180:

wherever you decide to put your ketchup, please don't let it be on your eggs!!!

But warm ketchup on scrambled eggs is the only way to eat them. Either that or dark maple syrup.
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wherever you decide to put your ketchup, please don't let it be on your eggs!!!

Ay! Bugger off! My eggs, my mouth, my belly, my perogative. So there! Hmph.

I put ketchup on:
grilled cheese sammiches
eggs -scrambled, omelette, fried egg sammich.
mac & cheese

So there. Neener.


Restaurants, ketchup -no, none of the restaurants I've ever worked for have refrigerated the ketchup at night. It stays right out on the table.

But this will put most of you off eating it anyway - at least 2 of the restaurants I've worked with recycle the ketchup bottle, and I don't mean in a "glass, plastic, paper" bin way, I mean "top it off, plunk it back on the table" way. If it's not topped off, the remains of one bottle (the contents at the bottom of which could be weeks old, depending on where the bottle came from), gets poured in to the top of a newer half used bottle ("marrying"). And so it goes... as long as the bottles on the table look new and full, that's the way to go. What is even more delightful, is that the neck of the bottle under the lid has to be clean on the inside -it can't be filled to the top... being that it has to look new, that little clear spot under the lid may come about by the trusty server on duty wiping it out with a napkin, rinsing it with water, or, even more fun, wiping it out with a finger. Mmm, I want that on my fries.

I can't think of a time in the 4 or 5 years that I was waiting tables, that I ever, ever used the restaurant ketchup. The other sauces are not treated so badly, thankfully. Not fantastic practices there either, but better than the ketchup.

Meg

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