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Forgive me, I wouldn't believe this myself if it hadn't been told to me (over and over again) straight from the (apparent) horse's mouth. My cousin who was always in a bit of trouble with the law was busted one night after having a few too many and driving home. Knowing that he was over the limit he refused to take the breath test because the law in Australia is that you take the test or you're under arrest. Figuring he would be charged anyway he opted to get put in a cell. Then the panic set in. He fretted over the possible loss of his licence, having to show for court, and pay the fine... Spying a bar of soap on the basin in the holding cell he hit on a spontaneous (and drunken) experiement and ate it. He then asked take the test again came up clean and was free to go. Despite many challenges he sticks to the story to this day. Could it be possible?
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No, it's not. Soap would not effect the blood alcohol level, or the breath alcohol level.
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From a cop on another board, the cops dont need a breathalizer to know if your drunk, the breathalizer just gives them better evidence to convict you in court that you would have a harder time disputing. If you get pulled over, they know you were drunk and nothing you do will convince them otherwise. No perfromed ritual that you do will wont go un-noticed by the cop and make you look less suspicious (yes they will see you popping a penny or a breath mint in and wonder why you are doing it)
You cannot fool the breatalizer test, Mythbusters showed that none of the mthods did teh key things:
* Affect the ammount of alcohol in your bloodstream (that a simple test could determine)
* Affect the odor of booze.
Soap could maybe affect the second, but not the first one
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quote: You cannot fool the breatalizer test, Mythbusters showed that none of the mthods did teh key things:
* Affect the ammount of alcohol in your bloodstream (that a simple test could determine)
* Affect the odor of booze.
While none of the methods will fool a breathalizer into giving a false low score, mouthwash and certain liquid breath mints containing alcohol can cause a false high score.
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Most likely he sobered up enough in the mean time that he blew under the limit.
Here in the US refusal to take a test results in the loss of your license for 6 months to a year regardless if you are found sober or not. However you can ask for a blood test or urine test instead of the breathalyzer if you are borderline and need that extra hour or so to pass.
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As I understand it, if you're pulled over and they suspect you of DUI, they can offer you the breath test, the urine test, or the blood test. Now, I'm presuming they don't have the equipment right in the patrol car to do a blood test... So...
Why not ask for the blood test, so they have to drive you somewhere to get blood drawn...so that you have those extra minutes to process as much alcohol as your body can?
Which brings up the next question: is there any way to speed up the processing of alcohol? Like hyperventilating, or eating something (or not eating anything?)
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time and sleep ae pretty much the only things that ive hard of. If there were anything though, cops would know about them too.
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quote:Originally posted by Silas Sparkhammer: As I understand it, if you're pulled over and they suspect you of DUI, they can offer you the breath test, the urine test, or the blood test. Now, I'm presuming they don't have the equipment right in the patrol car to do a blood test... So...
Why not ask for the blood test, so they have to drive you somewhere to get blood drawn...so that you have those extra minutes to process as much alcohol as your body can?
Which brings up the next question: is there any way to speed up the processing of alcohol? Like hyperventilating, or eating something (or not eating anything?)
Silas
The problem is that alcohol does not hit your bloodstream instantly.
Depending on what else is in your stomach, what you drink, and your own metabolism, peak BAC will occur around 45 minutes to as much as almost 2 hours after you stop drinking.
If you are already after 2 hours, then delaying might help. If not, delaying may actually cause your BAC to be higher.
That being said, I have no sympathy for anyone who drinks and drives, whether they think they are competent to drive or not. It's just plain stupid and if it were up to me, I'd up all the penalties higher than they are now.
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quote:Originally posted by Silas Sparkhammer: As I understand it, if you're pulled over and they suspect you of DUI, they can offer you the breath test, the urine test, or the blood test. Now, I'm presuming they don't have the equipment right in the patrol car to do a blood test... So...
Why not ask for the blood test, so they have to drive you somewhere to get blood drawn...so that you have those extra minutes to process as much alcohol as your body can?
Silas
They don't furthermore, they have to take you to the medical facility of your choice to get an independant test (at least in my state, MA)
But the 2nd best advice to not get a DUI is to refuse any and all tests and hire a good lawyer. You will lose your license for a good while (up to a year) but the cops will have very little in the way of evidence to offer against you. No field sobriety test, no BAC, just testimony which a good lawyer should be able to challenge.
The best advice is to get a cab or a hotel room. It will save you the money & the shame of having to go to court for being an idiot.
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quote:Originally posted by Silas Sparkhammer: As I understand it, if you're pulled over and they suspect you of DUI, they can offer you the breath test, the urine test, or the blood test.
Not really, at least in Kentucky. You can ask -- or a cop can ask you to take -- for one of those other tests as a backup, but you have to take the breath test first. No breath test, and the law considers that your refused the test.
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quote:But the 2nd best advice to not get a DUI is to refuse any and all tests and hire a good lawyer. You will lose your license for a good while (up to a year) but the cops will have very little in the way of evidence to offer against you. No field sobriety test, no BAC, just testimony which a good lawyer should be able to challenge.
You can try this but don't bet that it will always work. I have had 2 DUI cases where this has happened. A conviction was delivered on both of them.
quote:As I understand it, if you're pulled over and they suspect you of DUI, they can offer you the breath test, the urine test, or the blood test.
quote:However you can ask for a blood test or urine test instead of the breathalyzer if you are borderline and need that extra hour or so to pass.
The laws in each state of course are different, but if you should find yourself in AZ you'll find that you don't get to choose the tests, the police do. If I arrest someone for DUI I ask for breath and blood for an alcohol DUI and blood and urine for a drug DUI. DUI suspects may find themselves being asked for more than one test, and refusal of any of them is considered a refusal.
quote:Why not ask for the blood test, so they have to drive you somewhere to get blood drawn...so that you have those extra minutes to process as much alcohol as your body can?
Here I have 2 hours from the time of stop to complete the tests. The time restriction has never really been a problem, as we have several officers that are phluebotomists. Even when having to get a search warrant I may be close to the mark, but well within the 2 hours. But like I said, it doesn't really matter what the suspect requests, because AZ allows the cop choose the tests.
quote:they have to take you to the medical facility of your choice to get an independant test
Here suspects have that option, at their own expense, but they can waive that right. WHen we draw blood when consent to draw is given, we draw 2 vials, one for us, and one for the suspect and his attorney. Most people pass on the independent test, as it usually runs them about 600 bucks.
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I'm confused. Is a DUI the same as a DWI here in Texas? I think Texas law has both, DUI's and DWI's. Anyone know the difference?
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quote:Originally posted by Desperate Cupcakes: I'm confused. Is a DUI the same as a DWI here in Texas? I think Texas law has both, DUI's and DWI's. Anyone know the difference?
In Washington. DWI was driving with blood point of .10, and DUI was driving with a blood point below .10 but still with alcohol. I think now, I think they got rid of the designation of DWI and went with DUI and blood point of .08.
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quote:Originally posted by Silas Sparkhammer: As I understand it, if you're pulled over and they suspect you of DUI, they can offer you the breath test, the urine test, or the blood test. Now, I'm presuming they don't have the equipment right in the patrol car to do a blood test... So...
Why not ask for the blood test, so they have to drive you somewhere to get blood drawn...so that you have those extra minutes to process as much alcohol as your body can?Silas
Nah, you ask for the URINE test, then furtively get out the flask of child's wee you prepared earlier...
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