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darth_borehd
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I am trying to find the original author of this quote:

"Thos who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who do not."

I know it's a commentary on Isaiah 2:4 but I can't find a reliable source of who originally said it. I have found the following people have been credited with the quote:

Helen Rice
Don Baldwin
Thomas Jefferson

I'm not sure who Helen Rice or Don Baldwin is or what historical significance they have. Google searches on the names turn up dozens of different people with same names. I really doubt it is Thomas Jefferson as a lot of quotes are miscredited as his.

Does anybody know?

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Shamrock
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I first found it in one of the Heinlein SF novels. Not sure if it was original or not. Always thought so.

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Kathy B
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You can find variations of this attributed to Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson and the ever prolific "Anonymous." It's called "an old milirary saying" and listed as one of the "Murphy's laws of combat." "Helen Rice" and "Don Baldwin" appear to have gotten attached via message forwarding. It certainly does not sound like either Jefferson or Franklin.

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Jason Threadslayer
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Add Ben Franklin with this version: Those who beat their swords into plowshares usually end up plowing for those who didn't.

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hoitoider
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So a commentary on Joel 3:10

quote:
Beat your plowshares into swords
and your pruning hooks into spears.
Let the weakling say,
"I am strong!"

might be, "Those who beat their plowshares into swords usually end up defending those who didn't."

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