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http://www.snopes.com/photos/bushbook.htm

Comment: Actually I was going to send a message criticizing this, but I
just realized that as far as this kind of thing is considered, you people
are beyond hope.

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Well, that didn't take very long.

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So are they criticizing snopes for showing the photo or for saying it is false?

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I can't believe the moderate bias found on this website.
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quote:
Originally posted by Spam & Cookies-mmm:
So are they criticizing snopes for showing the photo or for saying it is false?

IMO the latter. Snopes has a long history of defending George W's nfbsk-ups. E.g. the "plane crash" at the Pentagon. It wouldn't surprise me at all if we found out "snopes" was really run by the RNC!

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Yeah, but they defend Hillary for turning away the gold star mothers too.

They're just so, so, balanced!

They'll never get a network news anchor job this way.

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quote:
Originally posted by Spam & Cookies-mmm:
Yeah, but they defend Hillary for turning away the gold star mothers too.

They're just so, so, balanced!

They'll never get a network news anchor job this way.

But she didn't turn them away, actually...

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Spam & Cookies-mmm:
Yeah, but they defend Hillary for turning away the gold star mothers too.

They're just so, so, balanced!

They'll never get a network news anchor job this way.

But she didn't turn them away, actually...
Shh... Angl, it was supposed to be a joke. I think I am the only one laughing at my jokes today. I'd better check the calendar.

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Comment: It's always a great service when myths and misinformation are
exposed. Truth and fact can be a rare commodity. However, your site (and
presumably your televsion show) are disappointing and lack credibility.
You show a very right-wing bias which casts a shadow on any attempt at
truth seeking. When one considers the current assualt on democracy, the
constitution and freedom by the Bush Regime and their extreme right-wing
supporters, it is truly a shame that your motives and choices are suspect.

Why not give it a try? Start with Ann Coulter's ironically titled volume
of lies and distortions. You could then follow it up with an exposure of
the Orwellian lies and propapganda of George Bush, Dick Cheney, John
Ashcroft, Rumsfeld, Rice and their fellow travellers. It's a gold mine for
debunkers.

Better to play fair now, don't you think?

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I always find it ironic Orwellian tactics are accused of being used by both sides.

Sister "he would have laughed, I'm sure of it" Ray

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quote:
Originally posted by snopes:
Comment:
Why not give it a try? Start with Ann Coulter's ironically titled volume
of lies and distortions. You could then follow it up with an exposure of
the Orwellian lies and propapganda of George Bush, Dick Cheney, John
Ashcroft, Rumsfeld, Rice and their fellow travellers. It's a gold mine for
debunkers.

Better to play fair now, don't you think?

Since when is it an Urban Legend that politicians and political commentators are biased and don't tell the truth?
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Why not give it a try? Start with Ann Coulter's ironically titled volume of lies and distortions.
But wouldn't that require actually buying and (shudder) reading her book?

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Comment: You can print all the left wing spin you want for your Demo buddies but
that will not change facts. Can we now believe anything you write on this
site ??? I'll look elsewhere.

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Comment: RE: http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/ausguns.htm

You label this as "FALSE", not because the statistics or facts are wrong,
but because you disagree with the interpretation given.

Shouldn't you keep your own politics out of it? But if you must preach,
call it "MISLEADING" not "FALSE".

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quote:
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Comment: You can print all the left wing spin you want for your Demo buddies but
that will not change facts. Can we now believe anything you write on this
site ??? I'll look elsewhere.

Yeah! We only want you to write stuff for your left-wing FULL VERSION buddies!

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Comment: About your latest "Arizona Flag" photograph query:
Aren't you supposed to explain these things, rather than just state a
plain "True" or "False"? Gullible people will be tempted to understand
that you confirm some kind of paranormal or religious phenomenon. It
should be easy to show another photograph where it shows how the weaving
of the flag begs for such light effects, isn't it?

BTW, you show a marked tendency to offer such "religious right" photos
and, above all, comments, that have nothing to do with Urban Legends. Lest
we view this as an undercover agenda of using your information site for
disseminating political views, wouldn't it be time to set up a parent
site, devoted to this kind of stuff as separated from the original goal?

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quote:
Originally posted by snopes:
BTW, you show a marked tendency to offer such "religious right" photos and, above all, comments, that have nothing to do with Urban Legends. Lest we view this as an undercover agenda of using your information site for
disseminating political views, wouldn't it be time to set up a parent site, devoted to this kind of stuff as separated from the original goal?

People sure demand a lot from a FREE service, don't they?

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^^ Made of tinfoil?

I kinda wondered the same thing, minus all the religious right and undercover agenda and other tinfoil-hat nonsense. But then I thought "oh, wait, if they'd EXPLAINED it then all the religious right with undercover agendas would bother snopes about it!"

After all, it DOES kind of come down to a matter of opinion in the end. And they DID explain the cross in the WTC. Need they repeat it? Well, yes, some people might not have seen the first one, but still...

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Comment: After spending several hours on your most excellent website, I am
struck with the notion that you are extremely defensive on the matter of
George Bush (either0 and tend to lay blame on Bull Clinton where possible.
Now perhaps I am reading between the lines, or perhaps you are simply
telling it like it is, but one must wonder how candidly you report the
"facts."

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quote:
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tend to lay blame on Bull Clinton where possible.

Is that a typo? Because if it is, it's funny.

Sister "and if it isn't... it's still funny" Ray

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Some people can be so deeply entrenched in their particular "world" that they assume all others are also in that same world, at least with some thought pressed to it. News to some people out there, not EVERYONE even thinks about video games, the lottery, politics, and/or baby corn as something that even exists to them.

He read it with that pot churning, and so hearing something contrary to personal belief, you MUST be biased. Then again, you probably already knew this as it's fairly obvious [Big Grin] .

Sure, you do place lots of personal opinion in your various debunkings, but the underlying debunk itself is always done with logic. The opinions are an aside after the fact, and they do proove interesting.

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Comment: Thank you for a terrific resource of unbiased information. I
receive so many emails from well-intended friends and acquaintances,
asking that (GENERALLY)mis-information be disseminated to "everyone on
your mailing list"; now, I will send your address to them, so they can
decide if their pleas need to be sent forth in multitudes.

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Translation: Thanks a bunch for your hard work! In return, I offer you spam!
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Surely he means your web address and not your email address!

Nothing to worry about, snopes.

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Comment: I use your service to find out if mass emails are hoaxes, not to
find if you think something will work. Please leave your personal
comments out of your work and just stick to the facts. Your liberalism
tends to show through; therefore, it is a detrement to your credibility.

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So let me get this straight....

David/Barbra/snopes is/are right wing, left wing, republodemocrat, liberal conservate, middle of the roaders who should or shouldn't put editorial comment on THEIR OWN website even if it is a terrific resource of unbiased information???

Wow.

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Comment: In regards to your article on the ruling about teachers leading
their students in the pledge of allegiance, I find that the overly biased
attitude of the author of the article particularly offensive. The
seperation of church and state is one of the defining characteristics of
our nation and I agree wholeheartedly with the ruling. Moreover, I find
the phrases used in the article about how we should or must have this
ruling overthrown to be shortsighted and ludicrous. I ask that this
article be re-written in a more objective tone or removed from your
website.

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Comment: I would just like to know if this site is supported by the Militant
Christian Right or if the petitions to let ABC know that Jesus should not
be bleeped or to stop a girl from getting an abortion are the only ones
circulating on the internet. It seems to me that many of the items in the
petitions section, whether they were real or not, were slanted very far to
the right. I enjoy most of the site but if you make it a point to raise
conservative issues, I am afraid I will be forced to never visit the site
again and spread the word to my moderate to left friends.

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I'm really not smart enough to understand the topic. I just like the snopes picture and think the assembly went well.
I would like to get a gift like you someday for Christmas.
Thank you very much.
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Comment: I would just like to know if this site is supported by the Militant
Christian Right or if the petitions to let ABC know that Jesus should not
be bleeped or to stop a girl from getting an abortion are the only ones
circulating on the internet. It seems to me that many of the items in the
petitions section, whether they were real or not, were slanted very far to
the right. I enjoy most of the site but if you make it a point to raise
conservative issues, I am afraid I will be forced to never visit the site
again and spread the word to my moderate to left friends.

Bye, and don't let the web browser hit you on the rear end when you leave. (waves cheerfully)

You know, I have a feeling that in other forums this person takes strong stands AGAINST censorship. As long as it's not something he disapproves of.

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Comment: One of the things I've always admired about your site was the
attempt you made at being FAIR. I've never felt like you displayed a
particular bias in favor of or against an individual or position.
Your jab at Rush Limbaugh is an exception. At the most, with the evidence
you presented, you should conclude the story is "undetermined". And to
suggest that it is somehow incriminating because of the way he responded
suggest that you don't listen to his program and should not comment.
Rush doesn't make a habit of responding to PERSONAL attacks against him.
Attacks on his political positions? Hell yes! But he rarely discusses his
personal life (outside of the cigars he prefers.)
Sourcing Al Frankin's book kind of gives you away.

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You know, after following this thread for a while, I've come to a conclusion.

A biased person is simply someone who does not share my biases!

It's all clear to me now.....

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quote:
Originally posted by Nonny Mouse, Wise Fruitcake:
You know, after following this thread for a while, I've come to a conclusion.

A biased person is simply someone who does not share my biases!

It's all clear to me now.....

Nonny

Yeap, I agree with you. The best thing I've learned being a history major is that to be human means to have biases and all we can do as humans is reconize our own and others biases and take them into account.

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Comment: Your page seems pretty pro Bush. Just because he kissed some
babies and shook the hands of victims in front of a bunch of cameras does
not make him the right man for any job. He is still a moron and a danger
to the free world.

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quote:
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Comment: ...{snip}...He is still a moron and a danger
to the free world.

But he's still the president of the US of A and he's got access to weapons of mass destruction. So if you're right, we're just waiting for our own extinction now.
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